Another split - Paul Murphy leaves the Socialist Party

Wanderer78

NIMAN wrote:

Appeals to a small minority of the voting population who also believe the nonsense,but most sensible people know we aren't able to live in this socialist utopia they dream of.

Some good points, but isn't our current ideology rather utopic also?

NIMAN

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Some good points, but isn't our current ideology rather utopic also?

To a degree, but I think the majority of elected politicians in this country know there are limitations on what they can achieve when in power, and do the best they can.

Murphy and his ilk want it all, and slag off the ones in power for not providing it all.

Anytime you hear them getting interviewed, its always "the Gov this and the Gov that....", picking holes in everything they do. That's an easy game when you aren't in power. SF are guilty of it too.

ILoveYourVibes

I have little time for him. He seems dishonest. For some reason I can't trust him. And its not his politics.

Wanderer78

NIMAN wrote:

Murphy and his ilk want it all, and slag off the ones in power for not providing it all.

Our political systems aren't open to far left thinking, there's very little hope of this thinking getting directly involved in governance, and not only in this country, but in saying that, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens in the UK. There is a place for it though, and it's important to realise the involvement far left politics played in matters such as Irish water, it ultimately plays an influencing role

JohnnyFlash

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I have little time for him. He seems dishonest. For some reason I can't trust him. And its not his politics.

Is it the cold and emotionless eyes coupled with that sneer?


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ILoveYourVibes

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Is it the cold and emotionless eyes coupled with that sneer?


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No more like junkets to turkey ...dodgy campaign tactics and getting his solicitors on rte everytime they say something he doesnt want people to know but is already in the public domain. He basically threatened RTE for only reporting on candidates over 10% in the polls leaving him out.

Getting teens involved in a protest that went wrong largely to him pushing it too far and in fairness very dodgy policing.

He has a big ego.

He takes fashionable positions and abandons unpopular ones.

Yer Da sells Avon

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

This latest movement will be the one though. I think they sincerely believe that. Anyway, I'm sure it'll all be explained in a public meeting of eight people in a room in Wynn's Hotel or somewhere. That's how these things usually work anyway.

Looks like I was completely wrong.

blanch152

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Looks like I was completely wrong.

Your mistake was to think that Paul Murphy would leave the affluent Southside for a meeting in Wynn's hotel.

mzungu

The nation holds its breath.....

Yer Da sells Avon

blanch152 wrote: »

Your mistake was to think that Paul Murphy would leave the affluent Southside for a meeting in Wynn's hotel.

While his constituency is on the southside, it's hardly 'affluent'.

ILoveYourVibes

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

While his constituency is on the southside, it's hardly 'affluent'.

It is really. Lovely area most of it. Terenure college etc.

"In the county of South Dublin the electoral divisions of: Ballinascorney, Ballyboden, Bohernabreena, Edmondstown, Firhouse-Ballycullen, Firhouse-Knocklyon, Firhouse Village, Rathfarnham-Ballyroan, Rathfarnham-Butterfield, Rathfarnham-Hermitage, Rathfarnham-St. Enda’s, Rathfarnham Village, Tallaght-Avonbeg, Tallaght-Belgard, Tallaght-Fettercairn, Tallaght-Glenview, Tallaght-Jobstown, Tallaght-Killinardan, Tallaght-Kiltipper, Tallaght-Kingswood, Tallaght-Millbrook, Tallaght-Oldbawn, Tallaght-Springfield, Tallaght-Tymon, Templeogue-Cypress, Templeogue-Limekiln, Templeogue-Orwell, Templeogue-Osprey, Templeogue Village, Terenure-St. James; and those parts of the electoral divisions of Clondalkin-Ballymount and Tallaght-Kilnamanagh situated west of a line drawn along the M50 Western Parkway.

He owned an apartment in ballinteer then sold it to move to tallaght ....

Strangely he seems to think the only neighborhood in his constituency is tallaght. And i can guarantee you the people of tallaght are not the ones who elected him.

nkl12xtw5goz70

The Judean People's Popular Front ... coming our way at 1 pm.

Gunmonkey

Kason Witty Beehive wrote: »

The Judean People's Popular Front ... coming our way at 1 pm.

NIMAN

No-one cares.

Wonder how much time Rte news will give it?

Hotblack Desiato

They were all over Renua and Aontu like a rash, didn't do them any good!

Eric Cartman

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

Imagine being Paul Murphys age and believing in socialism.

This is my favourite comment ever

nkl12xtw5goz70

NIMAN wrote: »

No-one cares.

Wonder how much time Rte news will give it?

Far more time that it merits. RTE always gives the far left excessive coverage.

Eric Cartman

mzungu wrote: »

The nation holds its breath.....

His old one had an austerity theme, i bet his new one has an eco theme, try get in on the green wave and all the cash to be extracted from it.

Promise free solar panels to the poor , an insulation upgrade of your local council heroin shack, cream a million quid in expenses, the usual really..

Yer Da sells Avon

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It is really. Lovely area most of it.

I wasn't suggesting that it's not a nice area. Just that it's not 'affluent'. There are plenty of perfectly valid criticisms of Paul Murphy, but his 'class' isn't one of them.

Roger_007

If Murphy hasn't yet chosen for his new group, could I make a suggestion:
The Anti Prosperity Alliance.

Eric Cartman

Roger_007 wrote: »

If Murphy hasn't yet chosen for his new group, could I make a suggestion:
The Anti Prosperity Alliance.

They could never be that honest and upfront about their motives, would break with tradition

nkl12xtw5goz70

The new group is called RISE (Radical Internationalist Socialist Environmentalist).

Website here: https://www.letusrise.ie/

Twitter: @RISEsocialists

super_furry

Lettuce what?

nkl12xtw5goz70

Lettuce Rise... :pac:

Read the list of demands here... https://www.letusrise.ie/what-we-stand-for

Roger_007

Kason Witty Beehive wrote: »

The new group is called RISE (Radical Internationalist Socialist Environmentalist).

Website here: https://www.letusrise.ie/

Twitter: @RISEsocialists

Henceforth it will be known as the Lettuce & Rice Party.

(At least it sounds environmentally friendly).

JohnnyFlash

Not a hint of a detailed manifesto on the website, but a detailed blurb about Paul Murphy written by Paul Murphy.

Demands include free internet, a free house, a free abortion, a 4 day working week, nationalise all multinationals, no water charges, no property tax. All sounds extremely grounded in reality.

touts

He's become an Environmentalist now. Here's something he could recycle.


https://youtu.be/Ih9m0WvAwFo

(I don't think he fully researched the name).

touts

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Not a hint of a detailed manifesto on the website, but a detailed blurb about Paul Murphy written by Paul Murphy.

Demands include free internet, a free house, a free abortion, a 4 day working week, nationalise all multinationals, no water charges, no property tax. All sounds extremely grounded in reality.

Woohoo everything is free. I'm going in after lunch to tell my boss to stick his job. Wall to wall daytime tv here I come.

Dr. Bre

These people must think money grows on trees..

AAAAAAAAA

Eric Cartman wrote: »

His old one had an austerity theme, i bet his new one has an eco theme, try get in on the green wave and all the cash to be extracted from it.

Kason Witty Beehive wrote: »

The new group is called RISE (Radical Internationalist Socialist Environmentalist).

Well you nailed that anyway, fair play