RWC 2019 Ireland v Japan Match Thread: Group A - Sat 28th Sep 08:15 Shizuoka

clsmooth

The losing bonus point is probably huge. Scotland need to beat them by a bonus point assuming we can out Samoa and Russia away with Bp wins. Wouldn’t fancy being in Gregor Townsends shoes

TheMilkyPirate

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

People will troll and whatever, but I will never understand an Irish person actively enjoying watching a team of Irish lads lose. That mindset is honestly baffling to me

It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?

ClanofLams

westernfrenzy wrote: »

The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

Mainly from premier league diehards it seems from a quick look at their post histories. Fanatic followers of a team from some place they have probably visited three times in their life and delighted to see their own country losing. Pathetic.

gmisk

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Japan might win the whole thing. I mean why not?

.....let's have a bit of a reality check ...

smelly sock

westernfrenzy wrote: »

The amount of "I told you so" ****e in relation to Ireland being bad and delight at Ireland playing ****e is honestly horrible to read through

I told you so.

The cringe factor is the amount of peoole who though Ireland would hammer this Japan team.

This team and smcith are well and truly ooen to criticism.

Blaming the ref to try and deflect attention. Its a managerial tactic. Pitty he didnt have some ideas over the 80mins.

tayto lover

So the “World Beaters” are back down to earth with a huge bang.
Some of those players embarrassed themselves today.
Not the easy game they expected.

edgecutter

Ireland only have themselves to blame. Too many errors and totally devoid of any ideas of how to grain control of the game.

Best lost two crucial line outs that cost us points and guaranteed at least 3 for Japan. You can't make errors of that magnitude in a world cup.

The ref killed a lot of our momentum especially with a blatant offside that he refused to call and then we knock on. Yeah we were poor, but that decision could have given us a chance of three or a line out deep in their area.

SlickRic

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

It was an awful performance and I will agree that he did ping us but he didnt ping them and thats the issue.

You can't possibly claim that he applied the rules accurately to both teams today

And this is the thing.

I'm tired of having to say 'we should've been better' as if that's an excuse for the refereeing.

We were bad, but the laws were not applied to both teams equally.

When we were on their line, for example, they were offside on every single ruck.

The one time he applied the rules equally was when we were 19-12 down and Carbery sliced the penalty.

gally74

NeonWolf wrote: »

High tackle by Rob Kearney in last pass before Japan try . He caught him on the jaw

Could be cited, but didn’t seem right anway

Ran out of gas about 7 mins or so in to second half. Lads were out on their feet. Japan just looked ready to go for another 10-15 mins beyond full time.

We had absolutely no control over that second half what so ever. We just needed a period where the Japanese couldn’t get their hands on the ball. Instead we kicked it away, our runners were being throw the ball while static and then being smashed.

We are now left in a situation where Samoa is now a must win. If Samoa beat Scotland or Japan then they will think they can beat us and looking at us today in those conditions then that is a strong possibility. The group has just been blown wide wide open.

smelly sock

gmisk wrote: »

.....let's have a bit of a reality check ...

Its as realistic as Ireland winning it

zubair

Clegg wrote: »

Yes, but you also need a calm head at 10 when things aren't going well. Carty and Carbery both panicked. Not t saying Sexton is immune to feeling pressure, but I do think he would have performed better.

I think where sexton would have been key is in motivating the team and getting them going forward.

Christy42

Mokuba wrote: »

I'm sure they would those 2 friendly victories for a successful world cup.

People will be falling over themselves to say how competitive those matches are but these are the competitive matches and Ireland fail every time.

There is a clearly a massive difference between glorified friendlies and even Six Nations rugby vs World Cup rugby, which Ireland fans either can't or won't see and admit.

You said Ireland were crap the last 12 months.

Tell me they played crap against New Zealand 12 months ago. Tell me New Zealand didn't play that game to a high standard.

Admit when you are wrong.

Edit: we fail them every time??? Scotland was a competitive game and we kicked them home. We are not that far removed from 6 nation's glory ourselves. Is the six nation's and world cup vs tier 1 opposition not good enough for you? You underlined every so I take you mean every.

People take too much delight in taking down others who have had a bit of success.

piplip87

There's been an arrogance about this team for a while. We went to the corner on a couple of occasions where a kick at the posts would have done. It's grand going to the corner when behind or Infront especially with the line out troubles in the last while.

Mr.Crinklewood

Hurrache wrote: »

What was the alternative?

Not getting the bonus losing point

Henry Ford III

smelly sock wrote: »

JAPAN.

World number 1. Laughable.

Raeburn Shield holders though.

is_that_so

MadYaker wrote: »

These posts just make me laugh. Disgusting ego ffs. I’ll never understand all the misery junkies in this country, it must be a sad way to live your life.

These threads should be locked for a few hours after a match like this. Give people time to calm down. A lot of disappointment and some people show it in very different ways.:)

Drumpot

How many world cups do Ireland go into it with reasonably high hopes only to seriously under perform? It’s a real shame as they are clearly a talented side. I’d say New Zealand are looking toward to the quarters.

Gonad

Japan played really well and that Irish lads looked wrecked after 20 mins .throws everything open now doesn’t it . Japan will best Scotland and we will probably end up against NZ

MadYaker

tayto lover wrote: »

So the “World Beaters” are back down to earth with a huge bang.
Some of those players embarrassed themselves today.
Not the easy game they expected.

Who in particular embarrassed themselves in your esteemed opinion?

ClanofLams

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?

They had one player today who qualified by residency. When was the last time the soccer team took the field without five or six lads who never lived in Ireland in their life part of the squad?

SharpshooterTom

gmisk wrote: »

.....let's have a bit of a reality check ...

After Leicester in 2016 I'm betting against anything.

There's no obvious favourite, no outstanding team, Japan will be at home and are inspired.

gmisk

smelly sock wrote: »

Its as realistic as Ireland winning it

That isn't saying much.

PhlegmyMoses

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

It's not a team of Irish lads though is it?

Yeah it is.

Weepsie

Sexton would've been in Gardner's ear all game you'd think with those decisions. Missed that.

smelly sock

SlickRic wrote: »

And this is the thing.

I'm tired of having to say 'we should've been better' as if that's an excuse for the refereeing.

We were bad, but the laws were not applied to both teams equally.

When we were on their line, for example, they were offside on every single ruck.

The one time he applied the rules equally was when we were 19-12 down and Carbery sliced the penalty.

Lads show a little class. We were outplayed and the better side won. Yes some questionable decisions but that performance is a disgrace.

Hoppy Jack

Conan will be a happy man getting away home from this sorry mess.

Hurrache

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Not getting the bonus losing point

I know, but many others don't seem to realise that.

y0ssar1an22

well that was disappointing. thought the turning point was not giving ireland a penalty when RK was closelined

UnknownSpecies

I'll never understand the mentality of people who get such pleasure from seeing their national team do poorly. Some of the stuff being posted here is absolutely embarrassing.

Henry Ford III

Can't wait for Captain Spamalot to arrive and claim it was a nothing game, and the wake up call Ireland needed.

FrancieBrady

is_that_so wrote: »

These threads should be locked for a few hours after a match like this. Give people time to calm down. A lot of disappointment and some people show it in very different ways.:)

I'd prefer to let the sad ditch hurlers expose themselves.

Some of the spitefulness is hilarious.

c montgomery

Drumpot wrote: »

How many world cups do Ireland go into it with reasonably high hopes only to seriously under perform? It’s a real shame as they are clearly a talented side. I’d say New Zealand are looking toward to the quarters.

They are looking forward to the semis

Harry Palmr

Maybe this is the problem

Poll Options
Margin of Victory
Ireland more than 5pts
Ireland less than 5pts
Japan more than 5pts
Ireland less than 5pts
Ireland more than 10pts
Ireland more than 20pts
Zangief Perfect KO

el Fenomeno

el Fenomeno wrote: »

What the **** RTE?

Wheety wrote: »

It was horrible timing but I don't think it's RTE's fault. Be a bit silly for every country to have their own cameras broadcasting live.

Oh I wasn't watching the Rugby, it was a recording of last night's Late Late Show I was on about.

fullstop

dodderangler wrote: »

So ashamed today.

Get a ****ing grip.

Portsalon

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

People will troll and whatever, but I will never understand an Irish person actively enjoying watching a team of Irish lads lose. That mindset is honestly baffling to me

Trump nonsense - "my country right or wrong".

Fact is that anyone with an atom of romance in their soul is always delighted to see a huge underdog pull off a fully-deserved win.

Mr.Crinklewood

Hurrache wrote: »

I know, but many others don't seem to realise that.

Yea, looks like some might not know this.

laugh

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

I'll never understand the mentality of people who get such pleasure from seeing their national team do poorly. Some of the stuff being posted here is absolutely embarrassing.

Maybe it's not pleasure?

smelly sock

Drumpot wrote: »

How many world cups do Ireland go into it with reasonably high hopes only to seriously under perform? It’s a real shame as they are clearly a talented side. I’d say New Zealand are looking toward to the quarters.

Nah their not. Remember we bet their second team a while back in a friendly in america.

irishgeo

Poor performance not helped by a poor ref.

dodderangler

fullstop wrote: »

Get a ****ing grip.

Get ****ed

UnknownSpecies

laugh wrote: »

Maybe it's not pleasure?

It's the ones showing thinly veiled delight that I'm talking about.

Portsalon

Portsalon wrote: »

That's it in a nutshell.

Presumably we can expect Joe Schmuck to whinge about Angus's reffing; not today, but when he briefs the embedded Irish rugby journo-fans in private over the next couple of days. Not that they - or the one-eyed part-time rugby fans - will need much of an incentive to blame anyone except the sterile coaching staff or over-coached players.

First time I've seen you around here

kona

ricero wrote: »

What an embarrassing sporting day for this nation.

The hype was vile after beating the Scots last week. The ego in this country and in that rugby squad is disgusting to see.

Outfought, outgunned and out muscled by ****ing Japan

Great to see. A bunch of ****in muppets.

PhlegmyMoses

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Maybe this is the problem

Yes, a poll on boards is the problem. **** take

dodderangler

irishgeo wrote: »

Poor performance not helped by a poor ref.

Here’s the excuses now. Let’s blame the ref for the absolute diabolical performance of Ireland.
Ireland were crap. Accept it.

woohoo!!!

Beaten by the better team who dominated the last hour of the game. Mistakes and poor decision making compounded the issue but pressure from the outstanding japanese defence was a big factor.

A big blow but we cannot have any complaints.

clsmooth

All the ‘embarrassing’ posts by the way are a disgrace. Japan were unbelievable out there and fully deserved their win. They didn’t let us play. We didn’t lose that, Japan won it and deservedly so. Even in the first half when we were 9 in front they were a few bounces away from tries. A great day for world rugby and the development of the game. Unfortunate that it came against us, but that’s sport. Hope they go on to beat Scotland and get a shot at one of the big boys. I think NZ or SA would definitely prefer to play Scotland which says it all.

ScrubsfanChris

piplip87 wrote: »

There's been an arrogance about this team for a while. We went to the corner on a couple of occasions where a kick at the posts would have done. It's grand going to the corner when behind or Infront especially with the line out troubles in the last while.

Cartys cross field kick to Earls, gave up a guaranteed 3 points.