Ireland vs Russia, RWC pool A, Kobe, 11.15am Irish time

Shefwedfan

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I just said that Murray is way better than Mcgrath so, but hey your the easily offended type.

You just moan, whats the point in watching rugby if you just moan the whole time?

Gidea

This win just feels like your useless co-worker.

Does the absolute bare minimum but gets the job done

Post world cup looks daunting as we just don't have anyone near the level on Sexton

prawnsambo

reg114 wrote: »

ah i got excited u know what i mean

Well, I think I do, but England let USA in for a try and the win margin was pretty much the same. I'm not happy with the performance here today, but the handling errors can at least be put down to the conditions to some extent. You just don't normally see players dropping the ball like that with such regularity. And it's not just me saying it, Owen Farrell tod his dad that it would be a factor apparently.

beggars_bush

Don't know why Marmion was left at home.
McGrath is very poor.

Dcully

Sanjuro wrote: »

35-0! What a scoreline!

Against a bunch of amateurs, it was a brutal performance.

sydthebeat

individual errors and handling in these conditions really holding us back.

BeardySi

I heard the words "Bundee Aki knockes it forward" so many times I was beginning to think it was one of those new fangled rap songs....

Wegians89

Bundee and Pom will be very under pressure to keep their places in the team.

McGrath and Kleyn over marmion and toner was the wrong decision.

Hope Sexton isn’t serious.

Shefwedfan

Most people will complain but I am happy

Sexton got good run out....got over the Japan game....

Carty got some sort of confidence towards the end fo game.....

Ruddock has to start going forward, he is a beast.....

Negatives....is Nordi gone? Carbery not getting any mins

MJohnston

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

There were, 1 before half time at about 32 minutes and the second for the high tackle in the second half.

I meant that there weren't two at the same time - first one happened, we scored a try, then at 51 minutes there was another yellow and our fallow period began.

Original comment by the poster was "25 mins between scores against 14 man Russia....ugh."

They were only at 14 men for 10 minutes of that 25 minute period.

jr86

clsmooth wrote: »

England USA? 45-7 win for England. 38 point win margin.

USA are a far better side than Russia

To put this in context Russia were comfortably beaten by last season's 4th place team in England's second division in the middle of their pre-season, in a warm up game - in Moscow. Ditto Connacht B

they got hockeyed 85-15 by Italy.

In other words they're absolutely hopeless.

Any team with any ambitions to win this tournament should be pasting these by at least 60 points. Very worrying stuff

That said, Ireland often thrive on being the underdog and being written off, and its hard not to see some reaction in a huge do or die Quarter Final game. But it really has a 2007 feel to it. This game reminded me a bit of the Namibian game that time, except Namibia can actually score!

votecounts

Mission accomplished but that was tough watch:(

Downlinz

Bonus point win and nothing conceded. Hard to blame players for handling errors given the conditions, that won't be an issue when it matters.
Overall a good outcome aside from the injury to Murphy

Abel Ruiz

Jamie heaslip is pissed.
Never too early to have a few

lleti

Connacht put up a bigger score v these 3 weeks ago. Awful stuff.

Brian017

is_that_so wrote: »

And we're guaranteed a QF. Not much else to say.

Are we? Both Japan and Scotland can overtake us as it stands. Unless I'm missing something, I did pass Maths so...

Sanjuro

Dcully wrote: »

Against a bunch of amateurs, it was a brutal performance.

FrancieBrady

Relieved to get the job done. Nothing impressive for most of the game with the same problems hounding us now. Decision making and poor handling/execution.

All things that can be fixed though and have been before in the space of a week.

Shefwedfan

beggars_bush wrote: »

Don't know why Marmion was left at home.
McGrath is very poor.

Im not sure what match people are watching or if they just have it in for McGrath but he had a good game....


But people have it in for him for some reason.....

tonycascarino

New Zealand will be licking their lips in the quarters...if we get there. We are in for a hammering.

gucci

The debate is obviously over (as he isn't there and the tournament is started) but McGrath in ahead of Marmion still puzzles me.
When you consider everyone being fit and picked /rested, surely the combination of Marmion and Carthy makes more sense as an apparent second choice combination.

Anyway, bonus point win, QF guaranteed, onwards to the next challenge.

Niallof9

There's no zip to our play at all. Watching Aussie rugby stream calling it as it is.

Such boring stuff but it beat the All Blacks so Joe will keep backing it.

Wegians89

BeardySi wrote: »

I heard the words "Bundee Aki knockes it forward" so many times I was beginning to think it was one of those new fangled rap songs....

It’s actually a new drinking game and bundee was just trying to get people to enjoy themselves more after the Japan result

mrpdap

Brian017 wrote: »

Are we? Both Japan and Scotland can overtake us as it stands. Unless I'm missing something, I did pass Maths so...

If Samoa beat us

is_that_so

Brian017 wrote: »

Are we? Both Japan and Scotland can overtake us as it stands. Unless I'm missing something, I did pass Maths so...

They can't both as they have to play each other and the assumption being we will beat Samoa. We should but very sloppy stuff from Ireland.

Podge_irl

jr86 wrote: »

USA are a far better side than Russia

To put this in context Russia were comfortably beaten by last season's 4th place team in England's second division in the middle of their pre-season, in a warm up game - in Moscow. Ditto Connacht B

they got hockeyed 85-15 by Italy.

In other words they're absolutely hopeless.

They also only lost 30-10 to Japan on opening night.

Pre-season results don't mean anything.

MJohnston

whatawaster wrote: »

Pretty sure a few sexy tries would make the players feel better and be more confident too, which can only be a good thing after the low of last week and the first 60 minutes today

Might do, but I'm definite that an injury to someone would make the team feel far worse and less confident than any extra tries would balance out. You don't gain a whole lot of confidence from beating a minor team like Russia, no matter what kind of style you do it in.

partyguinness

Very frustrating.

18 handling errors. 18 fcuking errors....against Russia. They will be very lucky to handle the ball 18 times in the QF and most of those will be 22 drop outs.

The Lost Sheep

Brian017 wrote: »

Are we? Both Japan and Scotland can overtake us as it stands. Unless I'm missing something, I did pass Maths so...

A bonus win against Samoa qualifies us and a win would get us through as well as we beat Scotland so would go ahead of them if they got to 15 on head to head

arsebiscuits1

I just don't understand how Beirne can be first man over the ball on that many occasions and be told to leave it where Russia can turn it over on their own 5m line without being told anything.

Similarly, how can you call "leave it 14" then he doesn't leave it and the ball gets turned over and it's play on?

thecomedian

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im not sure what match people are watching or if they just have it in for McGrath but he had a good game....


But people have it in for him for some reason.....

I thought he did only ok, I was hoping for a lot better considering the opposition.
If people said he did crap, I wouldn’t be defending him

MJohnston

is_that_so wrote: »

They can't both as they have to play each other.

So? They both also have ANOTHER game before that too. We aren't through until we beat Samoa with a BP.

Edit: looks like you edited your post to cover your mistake.

prawnsambo

Positives for me. Garry Ringrose. Plays three matches and shows up in the highlight reel in all three. Getting to be our most important player after Sexton. Also getting everyone involved. And the bonus point of course.

reg114

lleti wrote: »

Connacht put up a bigger score v these 3 weeks ago. Awful stuff.

Very true 42 - 14 to Connacht , says it all really. Our collapse in form this year has been monumental

thebaz

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Most people will complain but I am happy

Sexton got good run out....got over the Japan game....

Carty got some sort of confidence towards the end fo game.....

Ruddock has to start going forward, he is a beast.....

Negatives....is Nordi gone? Carbery not getting any mins

you must be easily pleased - really dreadful stuff, unless ther is a massive improvement, ther is zero chance of winning a quater , thought as a team we were very poor , very pessimistic , we will stumble past Samoa but can see very little to be optimistic about .

Podge_irl

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

A bonus win against Samoa qualifies us and a win would get us through as well as we beat Scotland so would go ahead of them if they got to 15 on head to head

Scotland getting a TBP win with Japan getting a LBP (but no TBP) could leave us all on 15 points. If Scotland have the best points difference then they would go through top and we would lose out to Japan based on head to head.

Pretty unlikely though.

NeonWolf

Ireland are absolutely woeful to watch historically (even when winning).

That was dross today.

is_that_so

MJohnston wrote: »

So? They both also have ANOTHER game before that too. We aren't through until we beat Samoa with a BP.

Edit: looks like you edited your post to cover your mistake.

Nah, no mistake! You rushed up offside!

Always Tired

Sanjuro wrote: »

35-0! What a scoreline!

Lol you think that's good? Bookies had Ireland as 54 point favourites on the handicap. This isn't an impressive scoreline at all, they performed well below expectations.

NZ won 63-0 yesterday with their 2nd stringers.

Normally this result wouldn't be concerning but after losing to Japan they should have been primed to light up an inferior team. Instead they lacked energy, were sloppy, uncreative. Way too many knock ons. Dropped a sure try (as did NZ 3 times yesterday, the ball seems to be very slippy)

You wouldn't have even known they had that man advantage for 20 minutes.

jr86

jr86 wrote: »

USA are a far better side than Russia

To put this in context Russia were comfortably beaten by last season's 4th place team in England's second division in the middle of their pre-season, in a warm up game - in Moscow. Ditto Connacht B

they got hockeyed 85-15 by Italy.

In other words they're absolutely hopeless.

Any team with any ambitions to win this tournament should be pasting these by at least 60 points. Very worrying stuff

That said, Ireland often thrive on being the underdog and being written off, and its hard not to see some reaction in a huge do or die Quarter Final game. But it really has a 2007 feel to it. This game reminded me a bit of the Namibian game that time, except Namibia can actually score!

USA beat Russia 62 - 13 last year. So much better than Russia alright but.....

blackcard

Brian017 wrote: »

Are we? Both Japan and Scotland can overtake us as it stands. Unless I'm missing something, I did pass Maths so...

Ireland win the last game without a bonus point, they get to 15
Scotland get a win with bonus point, they are 15. Japan win their next game with a bonus point and get a losing bonus point against Scotland, they get to 15. Down to points difference, we could be going home

lawred2

Always Tired wrote: »

Lol you think that's good? Bookies had Ireland as 54 point favourites on the handicap. This isn't an impressive scoreline at all, they performed well below expectations.

NZ won 63-0 yesterday with their 2nd stringers.

Normally this result wouldn't be concerning but after losing to Japan they should have been primed to light up an inferior team. Instead they lacked energy, were sloppy, uncreative. Way too many knock ons. Dropped a sure try (as did NZ 3 times yesterday, the ball seems to be very slippy)

You wouldn't have even known they had that man advantage for 20 minutes.

you lads all need your sarcasm detectors retuned

Sanjuro

What in the name of jaysus is Kleyn offering to the squad. So far, he's done absolutely nothing to justify his inclusion.

Sanjuro

Always Tired wrote: »

Lol you think that's good? Bookies had Ireland as 54 point favourites on the handicap. This isn't an impressive scoreline at all, they performed well below expectations.

NZ won 63-0 yesterday with their 2nd stringers.

Normally this result wouldn't be concerning but after losing to Japan they should have been primed to light up an inferior team. Instead they lacked energy, were sloppy, uncreative. Way too many knock ons. Dropped a sure try (as did NZ 3 times yesterday, the ball seems to be very slippy)

You wouldn't have even known they had that man advantage for 20 minutes.

Dude... https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111414406&postcount=521

lawred2

Can be pragmatic all you like but the signs are not good. This team is going to need to do some turnaround to win a quarter final.

Why oh why do we struggle with world cups!?

NIMAN

Eddie O'Sullivan telling it like it is.

He did everything except call us sh1t.

And he's right.

You can't polish a turd.

I love the way he stopped the presenter when he said, " moving quickly on.."

reg114

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

A bonus win against Samoa qualifies us and a win would get us through as well as we beat Scotland so would go ahead of them if they got to 15 on head to head

Japan will beat scotland. Its insulting to the japanese to dismiss them after what they did to Ireland and given the fact they will enjoy massive home support against a shocking scotland team. We will finish second in the group and play the All Blacks ..and be on the first plane home. Sorry folks we are simply going through the inevitable motions of another failed world cup campaign. For ireland to beat the All blacks in the world cup based on our recent form would constitute one of the greatest comebacks in the history of rugby, its simply not going to happen.

whatcanidonow

Was that the Russia b team? How many of them are professionals? 35-0 doesn't seem that impressive against them.

kilns

That in many ways was worse than the Japan performance. The strongest team will now have to be picked against Samoa because some of the performances seen out there today would make Samoa think they could beat us.

Brian017

Let's beat Samoa first before thinking about any QF