Censoring/Suppressing films

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

Would that be like the link you provided to the film going straight to DVD?

That was my opinion.

splinter65 wrote: »

Actually due to a huge demand the amount of cinemas showing the film is to increase next week and cinemas actually showing the film are extending the period.
Disappointed?

You stated a "fact", now if you could provide some citation or evidence for this "fact", I'd appreciate it, thanks.

TheRepentent

splinter65 wrote: »

And?

poor attendance on release weekend.
Guess even zombie worshippers know a sh1te movie and steer clear.

Stop moaning ffs

Homelander wrote: »

You're just embarrassing yourself.

That sound was the point going over your head at supersonic speed

splinter65

TheRepentent wrote: »

poor attendance on release weekend.
Guess even zombie worshippers know a sh1te movie and steer clear.

You’re trying to compare a film that cost 70 million to make to a film that cost 6.
Pathetic.

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

That was my opinion.




You stated a "fact", now if you could provide some citation or evidence for this "fact", I'd appreciate it, thanks.

You stated as a fact that the reviews are universally terrible. Surely you can post one of these universal reviews. Thanks. Just as soon as your ready.

gmisk

splinter65 wrote: »

You stated as a fact that the reviews are universally terrible. Surely you can post one of these universal reviews. Thanks. Just as soon as your ready.

It's got 40 percent on rotten tomatoes so it isn't great.
The bad reviews are really really bad.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unplanned
Also quite a few of the positive reviews come from publications with "national Catholic" in them so not too critics.

To be honest metacritic is usually a better gauge of critic reviews and it has 10/100
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/unplanned

An example of a rotten review

Unplanned will make you writhe in agony over how such an ugly, malicious and potentially dangerous piece of religious and political propaganda could have made its way into this world.

TheRepentent

splinter65 wrote: »

You’re trying to compare a film that cost 70 million to make to a film that cost 6.
Pathetic.

:rolleyes:
Joker cost 50 million btw .I made the comparison between the 2 because of your claim that it was

Actually due to a huge demand

You being wilfully stupid and missing the point is pathetic.

splinter65

gmisk wrote: »

It's got 40 percent on rotten tomatoes so it isn't great.
The bad reviews are really really bad.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unplanned

To be honest metacritic is usually a better gauge of critic reviews and it has 10/100
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/unplanned

The Joker cost 12 times as much to make and got a 68% score so 40% is quite a success. I can’t figure out why so many people are so bothered by this stupid unsuccessful straight to dvd film. Can you explain?

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

You stated as a fact that the reviews are universally terrible. Surely you can post one of these universal reviews. Thanks. Just as soon as your ready.

The reviewers I read when I want to gauge a movie before deciding to watch it or not universally panned it.

Anyway have you a link to your claim?

splinter65 wrote: »

Actually due to a huge demand the amount of cinemas showing the film is to increase next week and cinemas actually showing the film are extending the period.
Disappointed?

What's taking so long?

splinter65

TheRepentent wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Joker cost 50 million btw .I made the comparison between the 2 because of your claim that it was


You being wilfully stupid and missing the point is pathetic.

I’m not the wilfully stupid one. Wikepedia says 70 million by the way. You brought up the Joker.
Strange how you are so concerned about this film that you had to reassure yourself by leaving your own seat to walk all the way to another screen to count how many people were there.....

gmisk

splinter65 wrote: »

The Joker cost 12 times as much to make and got a 68% score so 40% is quite a success. I can’t figure out why so many people are so bothered by this stupid unsuccessful straight to dvd film. Can you explain?

As I stated I don't think the 40 percent figure is a true measure, especially when the rave reviews come from publications like "The national Catholic reporter" and "the national catholic register".

The cost of a film doesn't always indicate it's box office success obviously, I think the highest multiple of all time is still the Blair witch.

I guess because they think it is propaganda rather than an actual movie? I couldn't care less tbh not something I would go see anyway.

As I said there is a market for these kind of films in America but it is pretty tiny here.

Homelander

Not really sure what people are trying to achieve by trying to actively discredit the movie. a) 40% on Rotten Tomatoes is not terrible nor does it make it a terrible film. b) It cost $6m to make and grossed almost $20 domestically in the US, excluding all foreign markets, and it'll make a fair amount from VOD and rental also.

I don't care if you're pro-life, pro-choice, doesn't matter. The film was a financial success, to try and suggest that it's some sort of failure is just a bit scraping the barrell of pettiness. 40% on Rotten Tomatoes is not indictative of a "terrible" film. Loads of popular films get lower scores from critics but good audience scores.

Jesus, the intolerance of people on this thread is shocking. I thought pro-choice was all about giving people the power to have self-autonomy and make their own choices. But it seems to me that it's more about wanting to shut down and silence pro-life viewpoints. Did it ever occur to people that sometimes, for some people, the informed choice is not always universal?

That sound was the point going over your head at supersonic speed

Yes, sure it was. Your point seemed to be that a film that has a pro-life message at its core shouldn't be allowed to be shown in Ireland, that is has no inherent point itself because abortion 'is the law of the land'. Which is absolutely is not. Choice is the law of the land. Freedom to make that choice is the law of the land. So there is entirely 100% a valid 'point' to pro-life works of art a) existing and b) existing without calls for it to be shut down or silenced.

The movie is about someone whose viewpoint switched from pro-choice to pro-life based on her personal experiences. Who are we to try and claim her experiences and choices are wrong, incorrect, dangerous, or whatever? They are her opinions, her experiences, her choices. Is there a particular reason she's not allowed write a book about it, or that a movie shouldn't be allowed be made about that?

Boggles

Homelander wrote: »

The film was a financial success

So it made a profit indirectly / directly from abortion?

mindblown.jpeg

Cordell

I'm not going to waste my time watching it but I'll buy a ticket. I'm pro choice and I despise the religious propaganda, but I despise the crowd that tries to silence opposing views even more.

gmisk

Let's be honest they wouldn't be making films like this unless they were a financial success Kirk cameron for example has built a second career out of pro Christian movies (he is worth over 22m)

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

The reviewers I read when I want to gauge a movie before deciding to watch it or not universally panned it.

Anyway have you a link to your claim?



What's taking so long?

Here you go:

Below is a list of cinemas showing ‘Unplanned’ with links for booking tickets. See trailer of movie below as well.



New Cinema Screenings (from Fri 11th – Thurs 17th Oct)

IMC Santry, Dublin
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Santry
IMC Athlone
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Film-Times/Athlone
IMC Carlow
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Carlow
IMC Kilkenny
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Kilkenny
IMC Dundalk
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Dundalk
IMC Tullamore
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Tullamore
Eclipse Bundoran
Tickets: http://eclipsecinemas.com/index.php?dIndex=3
Empire Ennis
Tickets: http://www.empiremovieplex.ie

Existing Screenings
IMC Cinemas Republic of Ireland

IMC Dublin Savoy, October 4th – 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://imccinemas.ie/Event-Details/Savoy-Dublin/Unplanned

IMC Tallaght, Dublin 24. October 4th – 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Event-Details/Tallaght/Unplanned

IMC Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin. October 4th – 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Event-Details/Dun-Laoghaire/Unplanned

Eclipse Lifford Strabane, Co. Donegal. October 4th – 7th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://liffordcp.admit-one.eu/?p=details&eventCode=51628



OMNIPLEX Cinemas, Republic of Ireland

Arklow, Friday 4th – Tuesday, 8th

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/arklow

Cork-Mahon Point, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/cork-mahon-point

Dundalk, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/dundalk

Limerick, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://omniplex.ie/cinema/limerick

Sligo, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/sligo

Tralee, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/tralee

Wexford, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/wexford

Galway, Friday 4th – Thursday 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.omniplex.ie/cinema/galway



Cinemas Northern Ireland

IMC Enniskillen. October 11th – 17th
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Film-Times/Enniskillen
IMC Newtownards. October 11th – 17th
Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Newtownards
IMC Omagh. October 4th – 10th (extended until 17th October)

Tickets: https://www.imccinemas.ie/Whats-On/Omagh

The Ritz Multiplex in Cookstown. October 4th – 10th

Tickets: https://www.ritzmultiplex.com/whats-on/unplanned

Odean in Belfast: Special one night event sponsored by Stanton Healthcare Tuesday OCTOBER 8 @ 7pm. Tickets through EventBrite or on the ticket line: 02890332882

TheRepentent

splinter65 wrote: »

Strange how you are so concerned about this film that you had to reassure yourself by leaving your own seat to walk all the way to another screen to count how many people were there.....

You're still talking sh1te :rolleyes: was on the way out after watching the Joker.....


Have you got the link Boggles was asking for?
EDIT:And listing the cinemas its in wasn't what he was asking for

splinter65

TheRepentent wrote: »

You're still talking sh1te :rolleyes: was on the way out after watching the Joker.....


Have you got the link Boggles was asking for?

Yes I’ve posted it above.

gmisk

I am totally pro choice btw, but I have no issue with it being released in cinemas here. It's kind of silly to be protesting outside screenings it will clearly have the opposite effect the protestors want.

I do think sponsored screenings by Stanton healthcare and Students for life...show any screening would be very much preaching to the choir.

I can't find any details of it's box office here tbh, not in top 10 from what I can see.

padd b1975

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Has anyone seen it? Any good?

I'm sure those protesting have...

hetuzozaho

padd b1975 wrote: »

I'm sure those protesting have...

I wouldn't be so sure - we've even people buying tickets here who have no intention of seeing it

Stop moaning ffs

sabat wrote: »

Abortion could be criminalised tomorrow if there was a majority vote in the Dail and, despite what the most extensive PR and marketing campaign in the history of the state has everyone believing, no new rights accrued to any citizen as a result of the referendum could be used to challenge that vote.
On this particular protest-they just appear to be acting irrationally due to residual mania stirred up by the repeal campaign, like some Japanese soldier still lurking in Pacific jungles 20 years after the war ended. Did they not ask themselves what logically might be the outcome of this film being shown? Absolutely nothing. The only people who'd see it are pro-life anyway.

We can’t change the constitution without a referendum. Would have though that wouldn’t have to be said.

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

Here you go:

Copy and paste from

https://prolifecampaign.ie/main/

Fair enough.

But where does it suggest "huge" demand?

I think we both agree that we need to see the box office figures before the "fact" can be claimed.

They will be out next week and the week after.

Have you seen it yourself?

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

Copy and paste from

https://prolifecampaign.ie/main/

Fair enough.

But where does it suggest "huge" demand?

I think we both agree that we need to see the box office figures before the "fact" can be claimed.

They will be out next week and the week after.

Have you seen it yourself?

First of all you’re demanding proof of where the film is being actually shown and for me to back up my claim that it’s being extended in cinemas where it was shown over the weekend.
I gave you that.
Now you want to move the goalposts and see box office figures.
Do you know how bitter and childish you appear?

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

First of all you’re demanding proof of where the film is being actually shown and for me to back up my claim that it’s being extended in cinemas where it was shown over the weekend.
I gave you that.
Now you want to move the goalposts and see box office figures.

You set the goalposts lad, I see no proof of "huge" demand.

Out of interest does that prolife website normally publish cinema time tables?

Also have you seen it yourself? Is it any good?

jimgoose

Deleted User wrote: »

is the criticism/concern over the film valid, do you know?

shadily funded propaganda is not something to get all "art for art's sake" about in these times.

Mike Pence and his ilk might be a bunch of loo-lahs, but their opinion is as valid as anyone else's. As far as I can see, censorship of cinema is bad, period.

gmisk

jimgoose wrote: »

Mike Pence and his ilk might be a bunch of loo-lahs, but their opinion is as valid as anyone else's. As far as I can see, censorship of cinema is bad, period.

Very few films are censored in Ireland the last one I think was deepthroat about 15ish years ago.

Hotblack Desiato

jimgoose wrote: »

Mike Pence and his ilk might be a bunch of loo-lahs, but their opinion is as valid as anyone else's. As far as I can see, censorship of cinema is bad, period.

For the nth time, it's not being censored :rolleyes:

And all opinions are not as valid as each other, that's an unbelievably naive... opinion

Opinions based on facts, evidence and justice will always outweigh opinions which are based on lies, fantasy and oppression. Such as Mr Pence's.

jimgoose

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

For the nth time, it's not being censored :rolleyes:

Good. :rolleyes:

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

And all opinions are not as valid as each other, that's an unbelievably naive... opinion

Opinions based on facts, evidence and justice will always outweigh opinions which are based on lies, fantasy and oppression. Such as Mr Pence's.

The point, Grasshopper, is that that isn't a reason to suppress said opinion.

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

You set the goalposts lad, I see no proof of "huge" demand.

Out of interest does that prolife website normally publish cinema time tables?

Also have you seen it yourself? Is it any good?

Lol! prolife website wants people to know where when and for how long a pro life film will be shown!
HOW OUTRAGEOUS!
IT SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED! WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
What a nuisance for you boggles. You really need to write a strongly worded letter to someone somewhere to complain about websites and other media publishing stuff you don’t approve of. It’s quite disconcerting.