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adox

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

I wonder what Evra thinks of the Ex Manchester United manger calling his fellow Frenchman, Marcel Desailly , "a f***ing lazy thick n****r." on national TV? Don't see much criticism here for that. Jog on indeed.

Whataboutery.

You lads made a holy show of yourselves trying to defend the indefensible in here and it wasnt a good look.

A bit of self reflection and a look at your(plural)morals is what should be really happening, now that the light has been shone on it again recently.

Adamcp898

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

I wonder what Evra thinks of the Ex Manchester United manger calling his fellow Frenchman, Marcel Desailly , "a f***ing lazy thick n****r." on national TV? Don't see much criticism here for that. Jog on indeed.

I don't see you praising Manchester United FC for choosing not to launch a smear campaign against Desailly and defend Ron Atkinson either.

/s

The logic on this forum is truly bizarre at times.

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From a Liverpool supporter on this forum after what Carragher said in apologising for Liverpool's stance and t shirt fiasco (after Suarez was found guilty and banned)

"Carragher is dead to me".

Others with similar views and comments.

Jurgen The German

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Nope. Just a bit of balance required. Carragher apologies, and he gets lambasted by UTD fans. A bit of balance would not go amiss. There are idiots on all sides of the fence .

What I've seen Carra has been getting more stick from lfc fans in this forum than United fans. The only criticism I can recall from a united fan is that it was a bit of a limp gesture and only came about because evra was sat in front of him.

beno619

Jurgen The German wrote: »

What I've seen Carra has been getting more stick from lfc fans in this forum than United fans. The only criticism I can recall from a united fan is that it was a bit of a limp gesture and only came about because evra was sat in front of him.

The LFC fans on this definitely haven't been praising him anyway, Christ that thread is awful.

fyfe79

adox wrote: »

Whataboutery.

You lads made a holy show of yourselves trying to defend the indefensible in here and it wasnt a good look.

A bit of self reflection and a look at your(plural)morals is what should be really happening, now that the light has been shone on it again recently.

Much like Father Hernandez's post above alluded to - a few lads on Boards coming in to the United thread to stir the pot does not represent the Liverpool fan base of which I am one. I cringed at the time (of the t-shirts) and I still cringe now looking back. I don’t think having a go at Carragher now is right at all – either by some Liverpool fans for apologising at all, or by some United fans for not apologising sooner - it seems every player felt at the time like they had to wear the shirt to show solidarity with their team-mate. Maybe there was unspoken pressure from the club, who knows. Let’s not forget that the black players at Liverpool wore the shirt too, so the whole thing was very odd.

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beno619 wrote: »

The LFC fans on this definitely haven't been praising him anyway, Christ that thread is awful.

They set their own narrative and ostracise anyone that doesn't follow it,facts and truth don't matter either.
Posting a clip of indecipherable noise,claim it's United fans singing "murderers" then say United posters went to the Liverpool thread to argue about it.
I'm surprised nobody has said Carragher is an Evertonian anyway either.
A truly odd way of thinking,offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

IITYWYBMAD

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

I wonder what Evra thinks of the Ex Manchester United manger calling his fellow Frenchman, Marcel Desailly , "a f***ing lazy thick n****r." on national TV? Don't see much criticism here for that. Jog on indeed.

Lol, really.

Just about to get the Ron Atkinson support t-shirts printed here, PM me your sizes lads.

Oh wait, wrong club for that shít.

Its odd about Ron Atkinson as he had three of the best black players of the time in his West Bromwich Albion team,Laurie Cunningham,Brendan Batson and Cyrille Regis. Can't get my head around why he would come out with those comments after working with so many black players with his various clubs including Remi Moses and Paul McGrath!

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Nicky Butt charged with assault after a row with his wife,case continues in February.

If found guilty,his time at the club will surely be at an end.

Mitch Connor

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Nicky Butt charged with assault after a row with his wife,case continues in February.

If found guilty,his time at the club will surely be at an end.

If guilty, yeah - you'd imagine he is done for.

But he does strongly deny the allegations and I wonder if the club have done any internal investigation that points to him being innocent, and that is why he is still at the club. Surely if there was a hint of him being guilty they'd have put him on suspension or similar. Just from a business perspective, the optics of employing someone for months who ends up being guilty is a baaaaad look.

Whatsisname

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

They set their own narrative and ostracise anyone that doesn't follow it,facts and truth don't matter either.
Posting a clip of indecipherable noise,claim it's United fans singing "murderers" then say United posters went to the Liverpool thread to argue about it.
I'm surprised nobody has said Carragher is an Evertonian anyway either.
A truly odd way of thinking,offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

I try to stay out of United this, Liverpool that kinda arguments cause they're tiresome but this post reminded me of several tweets I saw over the weekend. Showing clips of Fabinho taking out James and how it was the best part of the match.

https://twitter.com/LFCSuIIy/status/1185992851227926530?s=20

The same fan base that wanted the CL final to be replayed because Salah wrapped his arm around Ramos and ended up doing more damage to himself than Ramos.

The mind boggles.

bucketybuck

Justice for big Ron!

Rayne Wooney

You’d think Liverpool fans would want to let that topic die out considering their club sponsored racism and still do without ever issuing a statement admitting they were wrong.

pjohnson

Do we need IITYWYBMAD t-shirts now?

A real martyr move that was.

jaykay74

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

I wonder what Evra thinks of the Ex Manchester United manger calling his fellow Frenchman, Marcel Desailly , "a f***ing lazy thick n****r." on national TV? Don't see much criticism here for that. Jog on indeed.

Jesus! The things that go through people's heads. And then they type it out. And then they read it. And then they hit post. Baffling!

Big Ron the racist doesn't come up much here seeing as he was last the united manager in the 85/86 season. No one here has ever defended him to my knowledge.

Adamcp898

jaykay74 wrote: »

Jesus! The things that go through people's heads. And then they type it out. And then they read it. And then they hit post. Baffling!

Big Ron the racist doesn't come up much here seeing as he was last the united manager in the 85/86season. No one here has ever defended him to my knowledge.

Wouldn’t be like Liverpool fans to talk about the 80’s as if they were yesterday tbf :pac:

Will I Am Not

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Nicky Butt charged with assault after a row with his wife,case continues in February.

If found guilty,his time at the club will surely be at an end.

“It was a punch of endearment”

Will I Am Not

Seriously though... he should be f*cked out on his ear if found guilty.

Minime2.5

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

You’d think Liverpool fans would want to let that topic die out considering their club sponsored racism and still do without ever issuing a statement admitting they were wrong.

You'd really expect that in Klanfield?

MeMen2_MoRi_

https://mobile.twitter.com/brunoandrd/status/1187065917995454469

Utd have scout/s at the benfica/Lyon game
More work going into dembele maybe

Adamcp898

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/brunoandrd/status/1187065917995454469

Utd have scout/s at the benfica/Lyon game
More work going into dembele maybe

Ed is going to be in for a shock when he finally makes that Gaitan & Garay double swoop :pac:

noodler

Minime2.5 wrote: »

You'd really expect that in Klanfield?

That's good

gimli2112

noodler wrote: »

That's good

it made me laugh and now I'm conflicted

Rayne Wooney

How are they scouting Rice, Maddison and Sancho in Lisbon?

They need to get back on the plane, nothing can stop us in our quest for world football domination when we assemble the UEFA nations league 3rd place winners minus Harry Kane & Sterling.

Shanotheslayer

Minime2.5 wrote: »

You'd really expect that in Klanfield?

Can someone explain to me what this is in breach of in the charter?

I thought it was just players names who couldn't be changed because it falls under abusing a player?

Edit: And team names.

I didn't know it applied to Stadia?

Minime2.5

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I genuinely think Ole and Phelan would be better suited to a sporting director type role than the management of the team.

I think they'd be more suited as binmen if I'm to be perfectly honest

noodler

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what this is in breach of in the charter?

I thought it was just players names who couldn't be changed because it falls under abusing a player?

Edit: And team names.

I didn't know it applied to Stadia?

Well, I guess, if you are really asking, if a negative nickname is not allowed then how can tarring an entire fanbase as racist be ok?

I found it funny on this occasion but the idea of it being ok on a regular basis would make it analogous to banned names like "bindippers" or "chelski" etc etc

dmigsy

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what this is in breach of in the charter?

I thought it was just players names who couldn't be changed because it falls under abusing a player?

Edit: And team names.

I didn't know it applied to Stadia?

Charter is long in the rear view mirror in the Soccer forum. F*ck knows what's allowed and what's not anymore.

Shanotheslayer

noodler wrote: »

Well, I guess, if you are really asking, if a negative nickname is not allowed then how can tarring an entire fanbase as racist be ok?

I found it funny on this occasion but the idea of it being ok on a regular basis would make it analogous to banned names like "bindippers" or "chelski" etc etc

Genuinely asking. My issue is that it's not a breach in the charter that I could see?

Yeh it was amusing and understandable it shouldn't be a reoccurring thing.

But if it's not in the charter than its allowed. If not the charter needs to be updated to include Stadia. It specifies Players and Teams is more my point.

I'd be raging if I got that card.

Anyways sorry to drag slightly off topic was genuinely curious.

beno619

Deleted User wrote: »

Good Watch

Very good, Evra comes off very well.

Tbf, the 'Emptihad' was carded before. Minime posted a classic this evening, but there is precedent there unfortunately.

Still though, some highly selective cards are being issued once again as of late, I'm getting a bit of Sept-Oct 2018 déja vu here.

Shanotheslayer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tbf, the 'Emptihad' was carded before. Minime posted a classic this evening, but there is precedent there unfortunately.

Still though, some highly selective cards are being issued once again as of late, I'm getting a bit of Sept-Oct 2018 déja vu here.

I was one of the people that mentioned in feedback about that never being carded.

I didn't know it came into effect as I didn't see it updated in charter.

Good to know.

Thanks!

Plasandrunt

Question lads,

I'm a Liverpool fan and was at the match at the weekend. Put a bet on at the stadium and got the scorecast at 28/1 (nice bit of aftertiming there). However the bookies were closed when the match ended so couldn't collect.

It says to pick up winnings at next game or get it transferred into a UK bank account. Does anyone know any other way of getting these winnings.

PARlance

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Question lads,

I'm a Liverpool fan and was at the match at the weekend. Put a bet on at the stadium and got the scorecast at 28/1 (nice bit of aftertiming there). However the bookies were closed when the match ended so couldn't collect.

It says to pick up winnings at next game or get it transferred into a UK bank account. Does anyone know any other way of getting these winnings.

The bookies were closed? Bold Trafford!

Cantona's Collars

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Question lads,

I'm a Liverpool fan and was at the match at the weekend. Put a bet on at the stadium and got the scorecast at 28/1 (nice bit of aftertiming there). However the bookies were closed when the match ended so couldn't collect.

It says to pick up winnings at next game or get it transferred into a UK bank account. Does anyone know any other way of getting these winnings.

Rookie mistake, don't place bets at the stadium.
I'll find out how lads that did the same got their winnings.

Mitch Connor

noodler wrote: »

Well, I guess, if you are really asking, if a negative nickname is not allowed then how can tarring an entire fanbase as racist be ok?

I found it funny on this occasion but the idea of it being ok on a regular basis would make it analogous to banned names like "bindippers" or "chelski" etc etc

Its clearly a lie too.

Didn't everyone see the banner at the match last night? No, not the racist one. the one that said LFC aren't racist.

self-proclamation that you aren't racist is a clear sign that you don't stand for racism.

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what this is in breach of in the charter?

I thought it was just players names who couldn't be changed because it falls under abusing a player?

Edit: And team names.

I didn't know it applied to Stadia?

Yeah, but you can't be slagging the 'pool round here, y'know? Some posters/mods are absolute lightning rods for taking offence when it's aimed towards their team yet turn a blind eye when others in their own camp get emotional.

And, just so we're clear, when I say "emotional" I of course mean "calling other people child molesters". Joke shop of a forum.

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Manchester United will look to sign two strikers in January as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer demands extra firepower. (Star)

Manchester United have identified Borussia Monchengladbach's 22-year-old Switzerland midfielder Denis Zakaria as a replacement for Ander Herrera, 30, who left for Paris St-Germain in the summer. (Bild via Express)

daily mirror

Manchester United have reportedly reached an agreement over the signing of Spanish wonderkid Mateo Mejia for a €150k (£130k) fee.


Manchester United youngster James Garner is a loan target for Preston and Wigan in the Championship.

Some brief team news:
De Gea aggravated the ankle injury so is left out.
Romero starts I'd suspect on this basis
Pogba, Tuanzebe and Shaw all out
Lingard travels with the squad

Cantona's Collars

dmigsy wrote: »

Charter is long in the rear view mirror in the Soccer forum. F*ck knows what's allowed and what's not anymore.

Ah sure I got a warning for quoting part of the updated charter while others get away with absolute murder in the forum.
It's as if some are a protected species.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, but you can't be slagging the 'pool round here, y'know? Some posters/mods are absolute lightning rods for taking offence when it's aimed towards their team yet turn a blind eye when others in their own camp get emotional.

And, just so we're clear, when I say "emotional" I of course mean "calling other people child molesters". Joke shop of a forum.

Don't forget Thanksgate: An absolute bizarre fixation from a certain group of posters getting triggered over who thanks a post as hypocritically they thank each other on the back

Its a skill in itself to always find a way to be outraged over **** all :pac:

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-pleased-by-the-fitness-of-man-utd-squad

This article may frustrate!

Look how the club are implying we outran Liverpool last weekend in title of the article (Even though we done absolutely nothing bar sitting back the whole of the second half)


Ole continuing with his fitness delusions too

Cantona's Collars

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-pleased-by-the-fitness-of-man-utd-squad

This article may frustrate!

Look how the club are implying we outran Liverpool last weekend in title of the article (Even though we done absolutely nothing bar sitting back the whole of the second half)


Ole continuing with his fitness delusions too

Ole's in game management is so poor. Playing the wingbacks high and pushing their most influential attacking threats back and denying them width was a great plan but in the second half he resorted to type and dropped back losing the initiative.
We played the occasion but we can't do that every game,our record this season against the big teams is ok but it's the other games that we are struggling in.

RobbingBandit

What happened to Shaw to be injured for this amount of time badly missing him

Cantona's Collars

RobbingBandit wrote: »

What happened to Shaw to be injured for this amount of time badly missing him

He dropped a snack box on his foot.

bucketybuck

RobbingBandit wrote: »

What happened to Shaw to be injured for this amount of time badly missing him

What happened is that the club never learns. Year after year of sticking with and relying upon unreliable players.

What specifically is wrong with him? God knows. The only thing that I know is that it won't be the last time.

Whatsisname

I'd nearly go as far as saying I prefer Young over Shaw. Shaw is so painfully average and unreliable, we really need to be getting a new LB next summer.

Will I Am Not

Shaw was a better player at 18 than he is now.