Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer Rumours/Gossip 2019/20

redzerdrog

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Iirc this is the third time a poster has commented on recieving sh!t PM's and you've entered into the discussion with your "get over it" type of attitude it's the internet.
Why you're bothered about others being bothered about receiving sh!t PM's is amusing.

Again nonsense!

I haven’t mentioned his alleged pm’s whatsoever. You are seeing things that aren’t there.

Drumpot

AidoEirE wrote: »

Wasnt bissaka and maguire on the cards anyway before ole came in? Credit to him for the james signing, has been very good for us so far, a real threat of a player.

Wasn’t Giggs recommending James aswell? Sort of feels like how we stumbled on Ronaldo in a friendly and every player told SAF to sigh him.

Mitch Connor

Drumpot wrote: »

Wasn’t Giggs recommending James aswell? Sort of feels like how we stumbled on Ronaldo in a friendly and every player told SAF to sigh him.

..... That's not what happened.

Drumpot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

..... That's not what happened.

That’s how I remembered it but googled and while I was right about players , looks like the club had him on their radar for awhile.

So what are your thoughts today? The biggest issue is our CM but asides from that we don’t look too bad. Maybe a draw?!

ziggyman17

Rojo out injured... has been good at center back but out again, cannot be relied on to stay fit, another week and Shaw still missing, he pulled a muscle at the start of September and here we are the last week in November and still no sign of him....If Young starts today ahead of Williams then Ole will deserve the chop when it comes later next month....

clubberlang12

Really is hilarious, and so transparent, the leniency afforded to posters coming in here on the wind up!!

And I say this after a nice 2 week "holiday" for an "inciting" hashtag comment towards posters in here, who themselves were only in here trying to incite, while their team was into the last few minutes of a game they were trailing 1-0!!!

Drumpot

ziggyman17 wrote: »

Rojo out injured... has been good at center back but out again, cannot be relied on to stay fit, another week and Shaw still missing, he pulled a muscle at the start of September and here we are the last week in November and still no sign of him....If Young starts today ahead of Williams then Ole will deserve the chop when it comes later next month....

Rumours aswell now that nobody Will be signed in January.

Ok so we accept the club has a long term strategy and will only sign the right players it identifies for the “required” rebuild.

Or

Woodward is doing what he has done in the past. When things get hairy he throws out PR statements about DOF and funds being available for transfers. When things die down then we get the PR , like a government trying to lower expectations around budget time, we are being groomed to be ready for nothing but may get something.

S.M.B.

If that's the nonsensical approach they are taking then they'll have a nice shock when they find themselves without European football for a few seasons on a row.

I'm not pro Ole cause he's a club legend, I just want to naively believe the club has an actual plan right now and isn't just throwing sh*t at a wall to see what sticks.

Curious to see what Ole does with the midfield today. Lot of responsibility on Fred and Andreas' shoulders today.

Drumpot

S.M.B. wrote: »

If that's the nonsensical approach they are taking then they'll have a nice shock when they find themselves without European football for a few seasons on a row.

I'm not pro Ole cause he's a club legend, I just want to naively believe the club has an actual plan right now and isn't just throwing sh*t at a wall to see what sticks.

Curious to see what Ole does with the midfield today. Lot of responsibility on Fred and Andreas' shoulders today.

I think sh*t at a wall Is exactly what they are doing. It’s why I don’t know whether people buying into this “much needed” rebuild are serious or just hopelessly naieve. Past performance is no guarantee on future performance. We might have to just run with whatever Woodward is doing but it doesn’t mean we have to believe a word he says.

The frightening thing is that Ole was plucked from relative obscurity to “make players happy” and lift the club. So he wasn’t chosen as a saviour but as an interim manager. Asides from the now clear manager bounce anomaly, what happened that convinced our bean counter that he was up for taking the club forward?

God, the more I think about it the more I think an ignorance is bliss approach is best. When you logically look at everything, it looks horrific and offers little to no hope the club is going anywhere good anytime soon.

Rayne Wooney

We paid a world record fee for a centre back

We paid 50 million for a right back

That is not revolutionary business on the part of the club or Ole.

People are really buying into the club propaganda that those 3 signings were the start of a new era. The jury is still out, none of them will be truly tested until we are competing for the top 4 which is probably years away, they are decent players in a team currently 10th in the league.

BDI

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

We paid a world record fee for a centre back

We paid 50 million for a right back

That is not revolutionary business on the part of the club or Ole.

People are really buying into the club propaganda that those 3 signings were the start of a new era. The jury is still out, none of them will be truly tested until we are competing for the top 4 which is probably years away, they are decent players in a team currently 10th in the league.

We also seem to have picked up a little gem of a player in James for cheap by today’s standards. 50 million for a good right back also isn’t crazy money these days.

Fred is playing today. Has looked shocking right up until a few weeks ago and is now looking like a player. If poch had a player like that people would be setting themselves about how he took an absolute dud and made him a player.

The midfield will struggle today but I think Sheffield United will be a lot fresher after having the week off. I still think United will win comfortably today.

Drumpot

I totally forgot about Fred.

What is it about him where I really want him to work out? I really like him for some reason even I can’t quite explain, though he’s been a relative disappointment. Maybe it’s cause he can look so desperate/frantic to get into games at times.

The_Kew_Tour

This is a very tricky game today.

Not too confident if we really start to doubt ourselves out there.

Form has picked up before break so hope it continues.

Drumpot

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

This is a very tricky game today.

Not too confident if we really start to doubt ourselves out there.

Form has picked up before break so hope it continues.

If Sheff United go at us we actually have a decent chance as we are setup well to counter attack.

pjohnson

Best thing going for us today is they have to use Moore or Verrips since they cant use Henderson. That might unsettle their backline as I dont think they have changed their back 6 at all until now this year and used that back 6 most of last year afaik.

Kerrydude1981

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

This is a very tricky game today.

Not too confident if we really start to doubt ourselves out there.

Form has picked up before break so hope it continues.

I think its going to be a difficult afternoon, Sheff Utd will be right up for it could be another Bournemouth/Southampton performance today.

adox

Hoping against hope for a win today. I just can’t see it though. Sheffield Utd are playing great and getting results to back it up. Our midfield, which is normally a worry with everyone fit is missing players today and I just don’t think we will cope.

Would really be a great result today if we managed to win.

Father Hernandez

ziggyman17 wrote: »

Rojo out injured... has been good at center back but out again, cannot be relied on to stay fit, another week and Shaw still missing, he pulled a muscle at the start of September and here we are the last week in November and still no sign of him....If Young starts today ahead of Williams then Ole will deserve the chop when it comes later next month....

Luke Shaw is a fraud, highest paid full back in the world, always injured and disappoints more often than not. Much rather see Williams given a shot, especially today.

United ‘lucky’ Henderson is unavailable today, they’ve had an incredible start to the season. Anyone thinking we’ll win comfortably today is delusional, they’re a plucky side with a few good results so far and United have no midfield.

Do well to draw. 1-1 for me.

StringerBell

Shaw is the highest paid full back in the world? You sure about that?

yabadabado

Hococop wrote: »

What if ole stepped down ( paid off a bit) and was given the dof role ( his signings this summer have been the best in a long time) and we signed poch?

His signings this summer weren't exactly picking unknowns.
Overpaid for two defenders and picked up a good winger who probably wasnt expected to get as much time as he has.
United are 10th in the league and people are happy with Ole.The standards really have dropped.
The squad is in an absolute ****e, Ole gutted the midfield and attack and no replacements in.A injuries away from being ****ed.

Liam O

yabadabado wrote: »

His signings this summer weren't exactly picking unknowns.
Overpaid for two defenders and picked up a good winger who probably wasnt expected to get as much time as he has.
United are 10th in the league and people are happy with Ole.The standards really have dropped.
The squad is in an absolute ****e, Ole gutted the midfield and attack and no replacements in.A injuries away from being ****ed.

Who's happy with being 10th?

Cantona's Collars

yabadabado wrote: »

His signings this summer weren't exactly picking unknowns.
Overpaid for two defenders and picked up a good winger who probably wasnt expected to get as much time as he has.
United are 10th in the league and people are happy with Ole.The standards really have dropped.
The squad is in an absolute ****e, Ole gutted the midfield and attack and no replacements in.A injuries away from being ****ed.

Jose wanted Maguire and Woodward vetoed it.
AWB was one of the top full backs in the league last year.
Giggs personally recommended James.

So anyone who thinks Ole pulled off a master stroke by signing them is mistaken.
Now we have a change in tune regards the January window from targeting signings to waiting until the Summer. Of course it's hard to get value in January but there's options out there to fill gaps in the squad without having to go for galacticos.
Mandzukic is reported to have lowered his wage demands to get a move and he'd give us a plan B up front if the counter attack style isn't working against teams who sit in. He might not be a popular signing but he has experience and will come cheap instead of depending on Haaland who may not even want to join.

artvanderlay

I hope we lose our next 3 games, including at home to Spurs/Jose. Ole will go then, and Poch should be hired asap. Let his first game be against City

BDI

artvanderlay wrote: »

I hope we lose our next 3 games, including at home to Spurs/Jose. Ole will go then, and Poch should be hired asap. Let his first game be against City

Jaysis.

As regards to signings, he can’t be flogged for not having cover having a light squad and then flogged because somebody else does the signings.

It seems people just don’t like club legend ole. I wonder were they fans when he played or are they newcomers to football.

Maybe they just want to keep sacking managers and have no love of United at all.

Cantona's Collars

artvanderlay wrote: »

I hope we lose our next 3 games, including at home to Spurs/Jose. Ole will go then, and Poch should be hired asap. Let his first game be against City

Anyone who wants to see their team lose needs to have a talk to themselves.

yabadabado

Liam O wrote: »

Who's happy with being 10th?

Dunno ,why do you ask ?
I dont recall anyone saying that .

Mr.Crinklewood

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Anyone who wants to see their team lose needs to have a talk to themselves.

Andy Goram likes this.

Drumpot

BDI wrote: »

Jaysis.

As regards to signings, he can’t be flogged for not having cover having a light squad and then flogged because somebody else does the signings.

It seems people just don’t like club legend ole. I wonder were they fans when he played or are they newcomers to football.

Maybe they just want to keep sacking managers and have no love of United at all.

It’s posts like this that make me question your motives in here.

I would hazard a reasonable guess that very few, if any, united fans have any ill Will towards Ole and would love nothing better then him to work out. The issue, as has been pointed out numerous times, is that people correctly it ask whether him being a legend overrides a common sense approach to judging managers on their CV (that gives hope they have the competency to do their job) and what they have done in their job to date.

Neither looks Particularly impressive for Ole so only a very misguided fan or somebody with mentally challenged alternative motives would argue “we can’t keep sacking managers” as a primary reason for retaining a manager.

If Ole does fail I want it to be terrible, not because I want him to fail but because I’m concerned they just keep papering over the cracks again and again and again. I thought things would have to change after the Jose debacle but they have just kept throwing sh*t at the wall and nobody has really batted an eyelid.

We might not be able to force the owners to sell up but the club in turmoil is more likely to see some sort of change of tactic (even Woodward sacked and a DOF with some authority) then the club plodding along between 10th-4th. I really don’t think the owners give a sh*t about what’s going on as long the club retains a couple of billion value. Maybe if the issue got bad enough they would f**k off.

yabadabado

BDI wrote: »

Jaysis.

As regards to signings, he can’t be flogged for not having cover having a light squad and then flogged because somebody else does the signings.

It seems people just don’t like club legend ole. I wonder were they fans when he played or are they newcomers to football.

Maybe they just want to keep sacking managers and have no love of United at all.

People dont like Ole ,what rubbish.
imo the only reason he got the gig to begin with and has held onto it this long is the universal love the fans have for Ole .He is a club legend but that forsnt mean he is good enough for the job.

Zeek12

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1198624843530428417

xtal191

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1198625107528339457

el Fenomeno

How will that work exactly?

3 at the back, 2 wingbacks.......2 midfielders and 3 in attack?

S.M.B.

3-4-3 or Jones in midfield?

StringerBell

343/3511/523/532/3412/541

Whatever.

Just put in a performance please lads

S.M.B.

Good to see Egan didn't make it so that's two out of the back six that have changed.

BDI

Could be Jones in midfield here.

artvanderlay

BDI wrote: »

Jaysis.

As regards to signings, he can’t be flogged for not having cover having a light squad and then flogged because somebody else does the signings.

It seems people just don’t like club legend ole. I wonder were they fans when he played or are they newcomers to football.

Maybe they just want to keep sacking managers and have no love of United at all.

I love Ole but i love United more and i want what is best for the club. Ole should never have been hired full time but that's not his fault: i hope he gets a massive settlement to walk away, but we need Pochettino now before he gets tied up elsewhere. Who else has the pedigree in English football thay he has, and is available? Spurs performances and league finishes (on a fraction of what United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool spent) have to be credited to Poch. Now there are so many players at Spurs with no contracts and no new recruits; he was fcuked by Levy and had to leave. A golden opportunity for us to get him now.

RobbingBandit

For a super sub he makes terrible tactical substitutions, player politics agents Woodward and more importantly the actual pressure to live up to expectations must take a terrible toll lately the results have been hard to take Newcastle particularly would Pogba and (insert player from Lukaku funds) have made a difference but Ole can't be blamed if players are out or not recruited can he...

BDI

It’s so selective, all poch s good points are his and bad points are Levy, yet all oles bad points are his and good points were giggs and Woodward and jose.

monkeysnapper

artvanderlay wrote: »

I hope we lose our next 3 games, including at home to Spurs/Jose. Ole will go then, and Poch should be hired asap. Let his first game be against City

You need to pick another team my friend and shut the door on your way out .. ....

I for one hope Ole can get a good run going because I'm a fan and always will be.

Go on united today!!!!!!!

Headshot

God save us all, Jones is starting

You know utd are at the bottom of the barrel when Jones is starting

Mantis Toboggan

Smalling motm again for Roma today.

DARK-KNIGHT

BDI wrote: »

Jaysis.

As regards to signings, he can’t be flogged for not having cover having a light squad and then flogged because somebody else does the signings.

It seems people just don’t like club legend ole. I wonder were they fans when he played or are they newcomers to football.

Maybe they just want to keep sacking managers and have no love of United at all.

This post sums up what you are at here

Embarrassing

Adamcp898

Would love to see this as a 352 with Martial as the deepest attacker behind the other two. He’s our best out and out forward but I’d love to see how he does in a role with a little bit of creative responsibility.

Zeek12

BDI wrote: »

Could be Jones in midfield here.

Remember that Champions league game in the Bernabeu when Fergie played him as a DM. And he was quite good.

Of course the English media went way overboard and some started hailing him as the next Duncan Edwards

I don't expect to see a repeat today.....but it would be nice!

deisedevil

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Would love to see this as a 352 with Martial as the deepest attacker behind the other two. He’s our best out and out forward but I’d love to see how he does in a role with a little bit of creative responsibility.

I'd have to say I'd much prefer Martial to be the main goal threat and Rash and James deeper given room to run at goal. James as wide as possible. Martial with a run of games and a few goals could get confidence and go on a good run. He's more accurate than anyone else whje he's on form.

Jurgen The German

Zeek12 wrote: »

Remember that Champions league game in the Bernabeu when Fergie played him as a DM And he was quite good.

Of course the English media went way overboard and started hailing him as the next Duncan Edwards

I don't expect to see a repeat today.....but it would be nice!

With the amount of time he spends flying through the air more like Duncan bloody Goodhew.

BDI

5 at the back to start with anyway.

BDI

Jones goes left back when attacking and Williams pushes on.

Drumpot

Zeek12 wrote: »

Remember that Champions league game in the Bernabeu when Fergie played him as a DM. And he was quite good.

Of course the English media went way overboard and some started hailing him as the next Duncan Edwards

I don't expect to see a repeat today.....but it would be nice!

I remember when we signed him he really did look like he was going to be an amazing central defender. I presume injuries have destroyed his Potential, real shame cause he puts his head on front of anything.