Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer Rumours/Gossip 2019/20

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Liam O wrote: »

Surely going into someone with a lifted elbow/forearm is a foul? I don't see how that can be judged shoulder to shoulder?

Exactly...how did they not check it on VAR?

Strumms

thelad95 wrote: »

Players don't look like they care anymore to be honest.

There doesn’t seem to be much passion running through them.... then again, they must look at this joker Jones again and just go.... ‘awhhh man seriously ?’

Our front three are posing no threat but again we’ve nobody to give them the ammo, they could be dropping a little deeper the wide players and LOOK for a pass...

Liam O

Weepsie wrote: »

That's not a foul on Jones. A defender shouldn't be shouldered, and that's what it was, off the ball that easily.

Disgraceful performance from all. Maguire has no right to be giving out to anyone as he's been dire too.

You're not allowed to take the player out without making a play for the ball. That's what happened.

mugsymugsy

Not United fan but how that wasnt a free is ridiculous. That said Jones had a chance to boot the ball into the stand.

Sheff united bossing the game like they did against spurs

Kerrydude1981

Players look like they are just waiting for the change in manager again mid season, play well then and once the new manager effect wears off down tools again

BenK

KH25 wrote: »

There’s been zero improvement since the start of the season. Ole doesn’t seem to have a clue tactically and half of the players don’t seem interested.

Other than that though things haven't been that bad...

v3ttel

This is the first time I've ever come close to turning off a United game. Phil Jones is an absolute embarrassment. It's all so predictable from the line up. Jones at the back is a guaranteed clanger - the only surprise is he has only cost us one goal. Periera and Fred are going to offer the square root of f*ck all in midfield.

I don't care how unfit Tuanzebe is, he could be on crutches and he would still be better than that f*cking clown. A disgrace that he is still at the club.

Strumms

Liam O wrote: »

Surely going into someone with a lifted elbow/forearm is a foul? I don't see how that can be judged shoulder to shoulder?

Seeing the replay I think it’s just a foul... yes should have been a free out..but
Phil fûcking Jones dawdling on it when it just should have been leathered into the stand is the root cause of this.

S.M.B.

BDI wrote: »

You what?

Jones was on one foot kicking the ball when “shouldered” from behind. Shouldn’t have really put himself in that position though but I found it a foul all the same. He didn’t help himself by diving between the ball and the man twice before that and raising his hands in the air like he was fouled.

I agree the contact came in when he was on one foot but it did look like shoulder to shoulder. Don't think he was too "light" in the challenge but he probably should be doing something to ensure he isn't in that situation.

Adamcp898

It’s nothing to do with passion and other intangible things. They simply don’t know how to play the system and as a consequence look lost. The reason so many of our players are getting caught in possession is because the rest of the team aren’t sure how they’re meant to be moving in relation to it.

Why the **** Ole didn’t change it to a 4 after 20 minutes is beyond me. Wanting to mirror the oppositions formation is only a fine idea if you actually teach your players how to play it too otherwise this is what you get.

Acosta

With a team so bereft of ability and leadership up against this Sheffield United team and the way they play, none of this unexpected.

bmcc10

Guarantee we will still be set up the same way in 2nd half, Lingard will be rolled on for Periera then Greenwood thrown into the mess for last 10mins to try salvage something

adox

Jones was awful for the goal but I thought it was a foul too. It wasn’t shoulder to shoulder, he just shoved him off the ball.

Anyway totally deserved by Sheffield Utd and they will be disappointed to be not further ahead.

Utd to a man, bar De Gea, look disinterested. Ole sitting there not making any changes at all. Like never mind personnel, he’s not even changed the shape. It’s been disgraceful all around but that’s the norm these days.

It’s galling to think that Poch is available and we are having to endure this led by a lad with no pedigree at all.

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Phil Jones off and hopefully it's the last time I ever see hime any where near the 1st team

Rayne Wooney

Poor players

Poor manager

When will people accept this

Pre game people were saying Rashford had X amount of goals in his last 10 games, goals against the mighty Kosovo no doubt included

They’re shít, the manager is shít, Ed Woodward is shít

Surely he’s gone after today though

Dozyart

bmcc10 wrote: »

Guarantee we will still be set up the same way in 2nd half, Lingard will be rolled on for Periera then Greenwood thrown into the mess for last 10mins to try salvage something

wrong

Father Hernandez

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Poor players

Poor manager

When will people accept this

Pre game people were saying Rashford had X amount of goals in his last 10 games, goals against the mighty Kosovo no doubt included

They’re shít, the manager is shít, Ed Woodward is shít

Surely he’s gone after today though

Everything about the club is poison.

Majorly surprised if Ole is gone and Poch replacement.

Woodward is spineless. United are shyte and will continue to be shyte as long as Ole is in charge.

Tippex

Ok he made a change but lingard for jones.
I have 0 time for lingard.

Strumms

S.M.B. wrote: »

I agree the contact came in when he was on one foot but it did look like shoulder to shoulder. Don't think he was too "light" in the challenge but he probably should be doing something to ensure he isn't in that situation.

Yes, it was the hesitation in a dangerous area that invited the challenge. He is facing his own goal, attacker bearing down, do you play safe and dispatch it into touch or try and shepherd it out knowing you WILL be challenged..

Jones is finished he won’t be at United next year. Get Smalling back and sign another reliable Center half.

4 on 3 and we only end up with a corner jeeez,

Zeek12

Strumms wrote: »

Seeing the replay I think it’s just a foul... yes should have been a free out..but
Phil fûcking Jones dawdling on it when it just should have been leathered into the stand is the root cause of this.

Its a clear foul.
That doesn't excuse the standard of our defending - which has been really poor.

But with VAR there are no excuses for not spotting this. Ridiculous inconsistency in the officiating every week.

Only in the Premier league could they introduce video technology......and actually worsen the standard of refereeing.

S.M.B.

Why didn't we start with this team and setup?

bmcc10

Dozyart wrote: »

wrong

Who cares it will still be same predictable mess

BDI

Happy with that substitution, if it works out I will credit Ole for it.

Father Hernandez

S.M.B. wrote: »

Why didn't we start with this team and setup?

Because Ole is out of his depth.

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/manutdchannel/status/1198654669561548802?s=21

S.M.B.

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Because Ole is out of his depth.

Well he did change it at half time so he must be at least somewhat wading.

Hopefully Fergie flattens him with a box in the jaw

Adamcp898

Feel a bit sorry for Williams. They’re targeting him and know they have the beating of him.

Spideog Rua

Great goal...fcks sake

y0ssar1an22

S.M.B. wrote: »

Why didn't we start with this team and setup?

because the coach is clueless

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Please god let that be the final nail in Ole's tenure at utd

ElChe32

Well done Andreas

redzerdrog

Ole needed that poch sacking like a hole in the head right now.

You can just feel the pressure on him intensifying and it it not gonna get any less until either poch gets a new job or utd start competing at the top table again

Tippex

There are no words

pjohnson

Moussssssseeeeeeettttttttt


We are beyond parody. Just inept.

Father Hernandez

Pereira lost the ball. A nothing player.

Mars Bar

Pereira

Strumms

Crap from DeGea and Fred looking like he couldn’t be arsed making a tackle...

Tippex

Pereira a ****ing donkey again losing the ball how many times is that

The Nal

This could be 4 or 5

KH25

This is a disgrace. Making Sheffield look like Barcelona.

Ole needs to go.

Adamcp898

Well that’s that then. Something has to happen at the club. Get hammered next Saturday by City and Ole is cooked.

Unfortunately the one difference between ourselves and Spurs’ situation though is they still have the players, we don’t......

Inquitus

How long til Pottch is in charge?

Mantis Toboggan

Poch needs to be installed before the end of the week.

Jurgen The German

Not even mad.

Figured we would lose.

The experiment has failed miserably.

Time to move for Poch before he gets a better offer.

Headshot

Tippex wrote: »

Pereira a ****ing donkey again losing the ball how many times is that

But yet gets a contract extension, says alot about rewarding mediocrity....

Weepsie

Pereira rubbish. Feed rubbish. Maguire getting dragged way out of position.

Playing a back 5 against a newly promoted team is a sure sign of how fecked things have gone

adox

Headshot wrote: »

Please god let that be the final nail in Ole's tenure at utd

“Injuries”

Narrative to be spun post match.

pjohnson

Even if we sack Ole unless we give Pochettino €750,000 a week why in the ever loving christ would Pochettino come here to destroy his reputation and end his career?

He will get far better job offers than us. He has no need to come here unless its like Alexis and he just wants to top up his pension.


Wheres this guarantee he wants to come to a dumpster fire?

Mantis Toboggan

Headshot wrote: »

But yet gets a contract extension, says alot about rewarding mediocrity....

Has been happening since 2013!!