10 Player Secret Role

MrKingsley

Spook_ie wrote: »

On the basis of research showing that Mafia/WW when played face to face relies heavily on body language and voice tones which obviously on line we don't have then I have to believe that logical reasoning and deduction have to play a far more important role during online games otherwise in short low number of player games we are reduced to guesswork

Vote MrKingsley

Right. Can you please show one single bit of logical reasoning to think I’m a wolf.

The fact that you’ve gone with Clara here almost has it as a coin toss to which one of you is a wolf but I’m still siding with Clara.

If you have played the “I’m not really sure what I’m doing/my glossary says” card all the way to the end then you absolutely deserve the win.

I have pointed out why Clara looks suss on numerous occasions.

Baggly if you vote for me now the game is over. Village loses. Can’t be any clearer than that.

To give the village any chance to win then I am going to vote after you (and this is not self preservation because I will not even get a vote if you go for me)

Baggly

MrKingsley wrote:

To give the village any chance to win then I am going to vote after you (and this is not self preservation because I will not even get a vote if you go for me)

That doesn't make any sense at all. You have to go after whomever I vote for that isn't you anyway.

MrKingsley

Baggly wrote: »

That doesn't make any sense at all. You have to go after whomever I vote for that isn't you anyway.

Maybe I explained it wrong. If you vote for me it’s game over.

I will vote after you because it is the only way the village is garunteed to stay alive.

Spook_ie

And also if you're the wolf to escape being lynched

MrKingsley

Spook_ie wrote: »

And also if you're the wolf to escape being lynched

Yeah fair.

But could you please even give the slightest reasoning as to how I’m a wolf.

You hoping on Claras vote now looks very dodge to me as I said

Spook_ie

It's up to you Bagley, who ever you vote for he's going to follow you, if you vote for me he'll have to follow, if you vote Clarabel he'll have to follow.

The question is do you think Clarabel, MrK or me only one of them is right and if logic isn't involved then you'll need gut instinct.

Spook_ie

MrKingsley wrote: »

Yeah fair.

But could you please even give the slightest reasoning as to how I’m a wolf.

You hoping on Claras vote now looks very dodge to me as I said

I gave my reasoning, I have to believe that the game has to be logic based otherwise it's just a game of chance.

Logic dictates that with BH lynched and Clarabel down a hole she shouldn't logically be able to be a WW yet sK died at the hands of WW, which is why I queried if tusks use of the word murderized meant munched on or some other form of death, I'm assured it was munched on rather than dispatched by a roleplayer with gun or other weapon.

With 4 of us left , you agreed with me that Bagley is likely village so I eliminated him from my choices.

That leaves you or me and I'm voting you

Spook_ie

MrKingsley wrote: »

Maybe I explained it wrong. If you vote for me it’s game over.

I will vote after you because it is the only way the village is garunteed to stay alive.

Not strictly true, if Bagley votes after you for the same person then result is the same you live, maybe WW lives.

Time to nail your colours to the mast me or Clarabel

Baggly

I think it's Clara. God help me I do

VOTE Clarabel

Spook_ie

Bye bye Clarabel

MrKingsley

Yep.

Well played Spook if you have done us here.

VOTE: Clarabel

Spook_ie

Guaranteed it's not me

tusk

Clarabel has been lynched...

She was...

Baggly

Sorry guys.

MrKingsley

Baggly wrote: »

Sorry guys.

Knacker

MrKingsley

tusk

An NRV

Spook_ie

Baggly wrote: »

Sorry guys.

Only reason to be sorry is if you played the meds sympathy card

Baggly

Well it didn't start like that. I'm genuinely sick.

tusk

...Baggly went on a vengeful rampage and savagely murderized Spook and Mr.K in memory of his dead buddy.

WOLF WIN

tusk

I'll get Backrooms opened to you all soon

Baggly

tusk wrote:

I'll get Backrooms opened to you all soon

I have a feeling im about to be slated.

MrKingsley

Cheers for the game Tusk.

For some reason I feel like I had a mu CG better handle on that then any previous games.......despite not picking a single wolf correctly over the 3 days

Hope the human flesh clears up your rabies Baggly

Baggly

Thanks for the game tusk. Thanks everyone. The smaller games are better for getting a handle on, I think, King.

tusk

Thanks all for playing in my first real go at modding, and special thanks to Baggs for jumping in last minute to save the game. Along with Barney who was ready to dive in too at any point.

It was great fun to watch from the outside and try to keep a handle on things - especially not giving too much info away when PM'd haha.

MrKingsley

Baggly wrote: »

Thanks for the game tusk. Thanks everyone. The smaller games are better for getting a handle on, I think, King.

I felt like I wasn’t lost halfway through D1 which definitely helps. I felt I was at least able to form a read on each of the players

MrKingsley

tusk wrote: »

Thanks all for playing in my first real go at modding, and special thanks to Baggs for jumping in last minute to save the game. Along with Barney who was ready to dive in too at any point.

It was great fun to watch from the outside and try to keep a handle on things - especially not giving too much info away when PM'd haha.

If Barney has come in a the 2nd sub and been a wolf I would’ve been having serious words with him offline....

Spook_ie

Enjoyed it enough to not withdraw from SouthPark one, so you have credit for that Tusk

Thanks for the intro to the game and yeah looking forward to my 2nd ever game

Green&Red

Well done Baggly

I wouldn't say slated but I'd be interested to hear whats changed in the last fortnight?

Baggly wrote: »

Second thing is angleshooting. So this is very hard to define as, even by the definition i just googled, angleshooting cannot be strictly considered cheating - its just a bit underhanded.


Now as i said in game, ive done this before myself whereby i posted a pic from RL to 'prove' i had stuff on IRL. As i also said, i decided after i did so that while i wasnt breaking any rules, its not a great tactic. Its kind of irrelevant to the game (whether i had stuff on or not doesnt impact my alignment or role) and its the kind of thing that is unfair on newer players, as they may not know its relevant or not.

Baggly

Green&Red wrote:

I wouldn't say slated but I'd be interested to hear whats changed in the last fortnight?

The feedback from that discussion. Not one person raised it as being an issue.

fixXxer

Spook_ie wrote: »

Enjoyed it enough to not withdraw from SouthPark one, so you have credit for that Tusk

Thanks for the intro to the game and yeah looking forward to my 2nd ever game

Good to hear

Baggly

Spook_ie wrote:

Thanks for the intro to the game and yeah looking forward to my 2nd ever game

Glad to hear spook. I'm sure you will have no bother trusting me next game :pac:

Spook_ie

Baggly wrote: »

Glad to hear spook. I'm sure you will have no bother trusting me next game :pac:

Good job it's anon in SouthPark otherwise ......

Baggly

Spook_ie wrote:

Good job it's anon in SouthPark otherwise ......

I have a feeling if anyone claims they are sick they won't get the same leeway I did.

quickbeam

I'm a feeling if anyone claims anything it won't be heard with 30+ players vying for their posts to matter.

tusk

the actual fear of 30+players.

MrKingsley

Baggly wrote: »

I have a feeling if anyone claims they are sick they won't get the same leeway I did.

If anyone claims sick they will be getting swiftly quarantined with a trip lined up for Cartman’s homemade chilli as quickly as possible

Baggly

If I get a gun nec.... Ah **** I can't shoot Necro.

Green&Red

Baggly wrote: »

The feedback from that discussion. Not one person raised it as being an issue.

Well I think thats hearing what you want to hear in fairness. The discussion was in bringing in RL to the discussion, you're post went a step further than that.

Baggly wrote: »

Guys im sorry ive a sinus infection and my heart just isnt in the game. Im an NRV so my job at this stage is to beg you not to kill me, as i dont think we have lynches to spare. But tbh im too tired and ive too much work to do with this infection to put my usual effort into self pres and defence. I'm just knackered and dont want to drop out because Tusk has already had to sub someone in.

My reading is "look I'm sick, an NRV and too sick to defend myself". I dont think I was alone in that reading.

Fixxxer - Baggly I don't think would using being sick and announcing himself on thread as NVR to hide being a wolf.

QB - I think if Baggly is a wolf and using his sickness (real or fake) to cover then it's poor form tbh. Which is why I'd like a well person such as Barney to take over.

Clara - Baggly - I'm ruling Bags out on poor form if he is the wolf.

After that post you were never a suspect again. There's no good in me thinking something and saying another, to use you're own word it was underhanded IMO. The flip side is it is a game and you were within the rules, so please don't take this post personally, its 100% on game play

I'll bring it up on the feedback thread but I think it should be a constant rule from now on that the game is played within the theme of the game and that anything more than "RL - won't be back for XX hours" should carry some punishment

Bounty Hunter

Congrats Baggly, very surprised our team won after never meeting each other in the backroom and me being killed off first.... umm can I be good next game ? Pretty please

Good stuff on your first game Tusk, very enjoyable even if I've never had a shorter game.

On the sick thing, I think this could be a good thing in some ways. A player should be able to mention RL stuff imo if it's done to explain why they aren't as active as others think they should be but others don't have to believe them and whether you do or not something like being sick or busy should not affect whether someone is a wolf or not. Wolves can be sick too

quickbeam

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

umm can I be good next game ? Pretty please

This was me around 3 months ago! Even when fate had me bad, I still made myself good (Two-Face)

khalessi

Good stuff on your first game Tusk, very enjoyable even if I've never had a shorter game.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Wolves can be sick too

Yes wolves are people too:pac::pac::pac:

Baggly

Green&Red wrote:

I'll bring it up on the feedback thread but I think it should be a constant rule from now on that the game is played within the theme of the game and that anything more than "RL - won't be back for XX hours" should carry some punishment

My sickness has nothing got to do with anything though.

People were rightly suspect of me but seemed to let it go.

I even tried to tell them not to let it influence them.

I honestly don't see how you can legislate for anglesgooting stuff like this.

What is acceptable? What isn't?

At the end of the day my job as a wolf is to lie and survive within the rules. If you have a broad rule around angleshooting or meta (which we used to have) it ends up being useless because how can you enforce it.

Nothing personal taken gnr. I wasn't outside the rules but I understand how people got upset i got away with it via the sympathy card.

quickbeam

khalessi wrote: »

Good stuff on your first game Tusk, very enjoyable even if I've never had a shorter game.


Yes wolves are people too:pac::pac::pac:

How would you know? You're always good!

khalessi

quickbeam wrote: »

How would you know? You're always good!

Now youre getting it

Bounty Hunter

quickbeam wrote: »

This was me around 3 months ago! Even when fate had me bad, I still made myself good (Two-Face)

At this stage I think my standard general play is now considered wolfy just cos I've been a wolf so much recently. Probably no difference in my style of play from my first several games when I kept drawing NRV but now the way I play reminds people of how X wolf played in a recent game.

Ahh Two-Face makes me want to write another game (In which I could make myself not be a wolf) :pac:

khalessi

How long do the games take to prepare?

Baggly

khalessi wrote:

How long do the games take to prepare?

Depends on the game. Anywhere between a couple of days to a couple of months.

Bounty Hunter

khalessi wrote: »

How long do the games take to prepare?

Probably varies wildly. I only prepped one but it had a lot more flavor than most so probably would have taken longer than most. Number of players obviously can change things too.

I'd hope a smaller number more Vanilla game like this didn't take Tusk as long as my Batman game anyway

khalessi

Impressive!