Advice needed

danap

When I requested a certificate from him he said as only appliances were refitted no certificate was required to be issued.

meercat wrote: »

Has he provided a certificate for the electrical work
He must provide one for a bathroom and for minor works if requested

danap

In previous posts I did mention that the damage to my car is hearsay and I know the cost of repair is on me even though I know 100% the damage was caused by him. But I cannot prove that unfortunately.

I will wait and see what the repair bill for the damage to the walls is and then see if we can come to an arrangement. What I really wanted to know is that level of damage acceptable when asked to drill a hole? I know accidents happen so am I unreasonable to request the damage is repaired?

Risteard81 wrote: »

RECI cannot and do not get involved except in issues of electrical safety (and compliance with the Wiring Rules). Everything else is outside the scope of RECI, and it's right and proper that this would be the case.

To be honest I'm not sure why everyone's siding with you about the car - absolutely no evidence has been provided and frankly they can't know that he was responsible.

Also you don't have a right to withhold all payment for the job. Such an action would have no basis in law. The best course of action would be to come to an agreement between yourselves rather than going legal. But whatever the case some money will be owed.

darconio

Did he provide an invoice? do you have a written quote from him?

danap

Yes he emailed me the invoice.

darconio wrote: »

Did he provide an invoice? do you have a written quote from him?

darconio

danap wrote: »

Yes he emailed me the invoice.

Here some good advise:


http://blog.tradesmen.ie/2013/08/cash-jobs-warning/

Sleeper12

danap wrote:

I will wait and see what the repair bill for the damage to the walls is and then see if we can come to an arrangement. What I really wanted to know is that level of damage acceptable when asked to drill a hole? I know accidents happen so am I unreasonable to request the damage is repaired?

If he wants full payment then he is entitled to full payment. You'd then open a small claims court case to recoup the money for damage.

The consumers Forum can give better advice

Hopefully he comes to an arrangement with you without the bother of a small claims court case

danap

Invoice contains VAT so link not really relevant. Thanks for the response.

darconio wrote: »

Here some good advise:


http://blog.tradesmen.ie/2013/08/cash-jobs-warning/

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Risteard81 wrote: »

To be honest I'm not sure why everyone's siding with you about the car - absolutely no evidence has been provided and frankly they can't know that he was responsible.

I share your view on this as stated in my 1st post on this thread.

meercat

danap wrote: »

When I requested a certificate from him he said as only appliances were refitted no certificate was required to be issued.

Not correct.
He should have tested both the fan and shower and all associated rcds

If he fitted a fan in the bathroom then it should also be rcd protected(unless it’s low voltage)

danap

Thanks meercat. A fan was previously installed in the bathroom that gave up the ghost. He just removed it and added a new fan. Not sure if that makes a difference.

meercat wrote: »

Not correct.
He should have tested both the fan and shower and all associated rcds

If he fitted a fan in the bathroom then it should also be rcd protected(unless it’s low voltage)

meercat

danap wrote: »

Thanks meercat. A fan was previously installed in the bathroom that gave up the ghost. He just removed it and added a new fan. Not sure if that makes a difference.

https://safeelectric.ie/help-advice/completion-certificates/

A bathroom is designated as a special area and all work/modifications must comply to current standards.

Depending on your installation and the type of fan it’s possible he should have pointed out that it doesn’t meet current regulations.

Either way tests should always be carried out for work in bathrooms and certificates issued

Notice of potential hazards can be issued for identified problems.

Irish_peppa

How do people normally pay tradesmen in 2019? I allways pay cash its not to get any better price or anything but i just assumed they dont accept cheques these days am i right? The last sparks i had over said he didnt accept cheques as he had been stung too many times, i didnt have any cash so he came back the next day to collect. offered paypal but he didnt use that either. Bank transfer and he said he just normally accepted cash as the amount 190 was too small to be getting bank details for me :rolleyes:

Sleeper12

Irish_peppa wrote:

How do people normally pay tradesmen in 2019? I allways pay cash its not to get any better price or anything but i just assumed they dont accept cheques these days am i right? The last sparks i had over said he didnt accept cheques as he had been stung too many times, i didnt have any cash so he came back the next day to collect. offered paypal but he didnt use that either. Bank transfer and he said he just normally accepted cash as the amount 190 was too small to be getting bank details for me

So he didn't give you a VAT receipt obviously. This really gets up my goat. Gives all tradesmen a bad name.

Most legitimate tradesmen take cash, cheques and bank transfer at the very least. Plenty, like myself, have a mobile card machine. My invoices have my address, phone number, vat number and IBAN number.

Irish_peppa

Sleeper12 wrote: »

So he didn't give you a VAT receipt obviously. This really gets up my goat. Gives all tradesmen a bad name.

Most legitimate tradesmen take cash, cheques and bank transfer at the very least. Plenty, like myself, have a mobile card machine. My invoices have my address, phone number, vat number and IBAN number.

Very very rare im offered a receipt its normally . ok thats done xxx amount... thank you bye. I check the work but never hassle them for a receipt, i know i should i just dont want too seem annoying . reminds me i got a quote from a painter the other day for 950 euro for a job which i gave the go ahead for and it was not asked if it included vat nor did he mention it ! I just thought of it now. Im afraid to ask now as he might say..... ehhh actually noooo that was net i didnt include vat so thats extra:eek:

Sleeper12

Irish_peppa wrote:

Very very rare im offered a receipt its normally . ok thats done xxx amount... thank you bye. I check the work but never hassle them for a receipt, i know i should i just dont want too seem annoying . reminds me i got a quote from a painter the other day for 950 euro for a job which i gave the go ahead for and it was not asked if it included vat nor did he mention it ! I just thought of it now. Im afraid to ask now as he might say..... ehhh actually noooo that was net i didnt include vat so thats extra

A few months ago I'm repairing a shower in an apartment /duplex bathroom. A RGI guy is in the kitchen working on the boiler or gas hobs. He tells homeowner that'll be X amount, when he was finished. She says can I pay by card? Oh my machine is in my van he replies. Well I want to pay by card, I don't have cash. He replies well I'll have to charge you the VAT!

He didn't even ask her if she wanted a cash job. I've been a tradesman for more years than I care to remember, as old Mr brennen used to say, but I've never seen anyone so brazen. Wasn't even giving her a choice. Personally I wouldn't have someone like that in my home.