A new Irish Capital

statesaver

Dublin was the capital prior to partition so why can't it be the capital in the ( unlikely ) event of a United Ireland

jimgoose

Kilteely, Co. Limerick. Tractors, high-sided trailers, cowboy boots - Ii's got the lot. 'Twould give a squez bullock the horn, 'twould. :cool:

rgmmg

ted1 wrote: »

No issues with it being in a minor city

America (US)
Canada
Australia
Spain.
And many others have it in smaller cities.

What?

James Brown

Dublin is grand. Mind Borris-in-Ossory would be a laugh.
Stormont can be Ulster County Council HQ.

New flag, anthem and that. It's a very big deal to some folk.

MrAbyss

A Federalists State like Switzerland rather than a Republic. People in Dublin can't be held accountable for the untold suffering of Rural Irerland if they are being controlled from Galway or Cork. Rural TDs can no longer point the finger eastwards for a cheap and easy vote.

MrAbyss

A Federalists State like Switzerland rather than a Republic.

People in Dublin can't be held accountable for the untold suffering of Rural Ireland if they are being controlled from Galway or Cork. Rural TDs can no longer point the finger eastwards for a cheap and easy vote.

saabsaab

I was thinking that a Capital mid way between Dublin and Belfast might be an inspired idea but would it lead to a long strung out urban sprawl a Dubfast? An unlikely unloved offspring of both - I imagine a kind of Foster/Varadkar offspring. The same idea looking to the West - perhaps somewhere between Limerick and Galway a Limway? Offspring of Willie O’Dea and Michael D anyone?
Then there’s Cork City, though a great idea, it is probably too far south for some. What about Derry/Londonderry, it’s a kind of northern Cork. The name could be changed say to Royalderry or Newderry? An unthreatening place where Dubs, Culchies and all three traditions of our Northern brethren would take to. Link it up with Cork by a new transnational highway/bikeway to really open up the country.

RobertKK

Kilkenny, it is a former capital of Ireland, and a beautiful location to bring leaders of other nations.

saabsaab

A fair few suggestions. A poll opened now

Be grand to free up Dublin again: no more politicians or traffic blocking protesters rambling round the place. Cut down on the civil service brigade too.
Us locals could finally have space to enjoy all those nice Baggot Street pubs again too More I think about this, the better an idea it really is.

mehico

Armagh could make a good new capital, between the two bigger cities of Dublin and Belfast.

fly_agaric

Belfast maybe? They do have that very impressive looking building (Stormont) which would be good as seat of a united Ireland Dail/Parliament. Much better than Leinster Hse. anyway.
Unionists would probably like it (much as they might detest concept of a united Ireland) so could add that to the post unification mollifying measures along with the changes to the flag, anthem, governing structures etc...:pac:

Sheeps

It would need to be a city, so that rules Kilkenny out.

Brian?

ted1 wrote: »

It’s only the 20th largest city

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

That list is deceiving. Each “incorporated area” is actually only part of a larger city.

For instance Mesa and Phoenix are both in the top 20 odd. There is nothing separating Mesa and Phoenix but an imaginary line. The greater Phoenix area is: Mesa, Scottsdale, Tempe, Chandler, Gilbert, Phoenix and a few more I can’t remember. That’s not even including the commuter towns like San Tam valley or apache junction.

It’s like listing Dublin, Swords and Tallaght as different cities.

DC is a much bigger city than what’s officially DC.

_Kaiser_

saabsaab wrote: »

As a Capital city for a UI I feel that both sides in Belfast won't like to take 'orders' from Dublin and vice versa.

No difference then from parts of the existing country we have having issues with "them up there in Dublin" :rolleyes:

Far bigger issues to sort with the idea of a "united" Ireland than where the capital should be, but why wouldn't it be Dublin? NI would be joining the rest of the country, not vice versa but far more importantly, think of the potential effect in the greater Dublin region on existing employment and investment if the idea of moving the capital was seriously considered.

saabsaab

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No difference then from parts of the existing country we have having issues with "them up there in Dublin" :rolleyes:

Far bigger issues to sort with the idea of a "united" Ireland than where the capital should be, but why wouldn't it be Dublin? NI would be joining the rest of the country, not vice versa but far more importantly, think of the potential effect in the greater Dublin region on existing employment and investment if the idea of moving the capital was seriously considered.

There are indeed bigger issues but this may a way of solving some of them. Dublin is facing some huge problems anyway like running out of water, lack of housing, lack of space for housing within a reasonable distance, traffic issues and crime. As for the effect on employment in Dublin it may aid employment in the rest of the country and also ease the pressure on the Dublin region, a win win situation as acknowledged by a previous Dublin poster. Also I would say that it would not be as simple as NI joining us it would be an Ireland United within a United Ireland.

Kilkenny.

The true capital of the island of Ireland.

Dr. Bre

United ireland not happening so not worth discussing

JupiterKid

Waterford.

Well located in the South East, good transport infrastructure, been neglected by successive govts fpr the past 30 years, needs a full university and could easily treble in size.

Very unlikely to happen, though...


Ps: Belfast-born Dub here, so no vested interesy.

saabsaab

Just because a UI hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't especially with Brexit. I predict many changes for these islands in the next 10 years or so.

LoughNeagh2017

Inishowen was once arguably the capital of the island at a stage when the Ui Neill had their bass their, the Ui Neill was the most powerful overkingdom on the island

Ireland could follow the EU's example and have the capital in Dublin, but for one week each month, pack the whole thing up in to storage boxes and ship it all up to Belfast.

Sounds like a remarkably sensible thing to do, especially for Belfast hotels.

saabsaab

A mobile Capital! Would it work here?


Anyway the poll set up earlier is ending soon so get your vote in now!

whisky_galore

Cali_girl wrote: »

Not a single vote for Tara?
Tara. Back to Tuatha Dé Danann with us all. A redo

Hauptstadt Irland.

http://archiseek.com/2012/1942-new-capital-city-for-ireland-at-tara/

saabsaab

Very interesting post. A new Irish Order.

amadangomor

Would make sense to build an equivalent of Brasilia/Canberra somewhere in the midlands. Planned garden city centred around a parliamentary district, all brand new government buildings, top class Unis heck even a domed cafe/pub district where punters can sit outside all year around.

Reckon we should do it now when credit is as cheap as it ever will be. High speed bullet train connecting all other cities and streets designed for modern public transport.

Archeron

saabsaab wrote: »

I imagine a kind of Foster/Varadkar offspring.

Ewww..... That's put me off my dinner

hatrickpatrick

I think it's far more likely that a United Ireland would involve the Dáil and Stormon in a federal, two-state arrangement under one Head of State, and that perhaps the Irish Presidency would be completely overhauled (in terms of location, title, etc) in order to accommodate that.

twinytwo

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I think it's far more likely that a United Ireland would involve the Dáil and Stormon in a federal, two-state arrangement under one Head of State, and that perhaps the Irish Presidency would be completely overhauled (in terms of location, title, etc) in order to accommodate that.

If a UI ever happened, history has shown the DUP should be given as little say in anything as possible. No need to change the anything, the Irish in NI won't mind.. for everyone else if they don't like it the UK is that way >>>>>

saabsaab

Poll is finished now. Interesting to see the results - 63% showing a preference for a Capital other than Dublin. However, it has the highest individual share of the options. Athlone put in a good showing even beating Cork!
I wonder if a political party put a new Capital idea forward as a policy how would it fare?