FFS!!

nkl12xtw5goz70

whisky_galore wrote: »

They cut down a tree in Rathkeale once, the pattern on the stump looked like Holy Mary.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/holy-image-in-stump-is-virgin-on-the-miraculous-26549535.html

The cabinet looks more like her, tbh

igCorcaigh

In fairness though, this stuff must make serious Christians shake their collective heads.

Red top journalism.

Raconteuse

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Ah drop it, everyone knows about that craic.

If people have faith that's their business. Ridiculing people for something just because you don't happen to share their beliefs is juvenile at best.

I wouldn't ridicule people for having faith (I am not completely without it myself), but seeing the virgin Mary in a piece of wood is silly carry-on. All silly carry-on gets ridiculed - this should be no exception.

nkl12xtw5goz70

igCorcaigh wrote: »

In fairness though, this stuff must make serious Christians shake their collective heads.

If one genuinely believes in an all-powerful God who created the entire universe out of nothing, surely one would also have to believe that, if he chose to display an image of his mother, he could do better than tree stumps, cabinet doors, and toasted cheese sandwiches?

igCorcaigh

Raconteuse wrote: »

I wouldn't ridicule people for having faith (I am not completely without it myself), but seeing the virgin Mary in a piece of wood is silly carry-on. All silly carry-on gets ridiculed - this should be no exception.

I don't think that COT was defending this, just a response to my post.

whisky_galore

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/holy-image-in-stump-is-virgin-on-the-miraculous-26549535.html

The cabinet looks more like her, tbh

The priest was dead right. It's a tree. You can't worship a tree.
It's a Fr Ted Irish stereotype made real. We laugh at African and Asian countries with witch doctors and sorcerers and we have this.

nkl12xtw5goz70

Raconteuse wrote: »

I wouldn't ridicule people for having faith (I am not completely without it myself), but seeing the virgin Mary in a piece of wood is silly carry-on. All silly carry-on gets ridiculed - this should be no exception.

Even the parish priest told them to cop themselves on over the tree stump.

However, the local parish priest last night advised people not to worship the tree. Fr Willie Russell said: "There's nothing there . . . it's just a tree. You can't worship a tree."

corner of hells

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

If one genuinely believes in an all-powerful God who created the entire universe out of nothing, surely one would also have to believe that, if he chose to display an image of his mother, he could do better than tree stumps, cabinet doors, and toasted cheese sandwiches?

Well ,we have had moving statue or two in the past.

igCorcaigh

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

If one genuinely believes in an all-powerful God who created the entire universe out of nothing, surely one would also have to believe that, if he chose to display an image of his mother, he could do better than tree stumps, cabinet doors, and toasted cheese sandwiches?

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread.
There are plenty other threads for that.

igCorcaigh

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

If one genuinely believes in an all-powerful God who created the entire universe out of nothing, surely one would also have to believe that, if he chose to display an image of his mother, he could do better than tree stumps, cabinet doors, and toasted cheese sandwiches?

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread.
There are plenty other threads for that.

nkl12xtw5goz70

corner of hells wrote: »

Well ,we have had moving statue or two in the past.

And the Apparition at Knock, don't forget.

Smart Bug

Jonybgud wrote: »

I've just shaved my pubes like the virgin Mary...

Get to the kissin' and adorin; catholic girls......

She’s got a very small nose I hear.

BeerWolf

punisher5112 wrote: »

There is something similar on me dogs arse.

Hope you haven't kissed it... :pac:

YFlyer

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/holy-image-in-stump-is-virgin-on-the-miraculous-26549535.html

The cabinet looks more like her, tbh

A spokesman for the Limerick diocesan office said the "Church's response to phenomena of this type is one of great scepticism".

"While we do not wish in any way to detract from devotion to Our Lady, we would also wish to avoid anything which might lead to superstition," he said.

buckwheat

igCorcaigh wrote: »

At the same time though, it's wrong to mock people's beliefs.

Be respectful.

Is it? No matter what the beliefs are? :rolleyes:

Jonybgud

Smart Bug wrote: »

She’s got a very small nose I hear.

...and a rugged stubbly chin but who cares once the laying on of hands begins...:D

RhubarbCrumble

I hear they're even coming from Gdansk to see the cabinet.

corner of hells

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

I hear they're even coming from Gdansk to see the cabinet.

Yeah but the French will clean it.

FishOnABike

gctest50 wrote: »

There's an evil red-eyed demon (red arrow) with crab-claws( yellow arrow) at it's heart

I thought it more closely resembled the vulva with the red arrow pointing to the clitoral hood and yellow arrow to the urethra.

sbsquarepants

I like that she's hanging out with Amy Winehouse - she must have loosened up a bit over the years:D

punisher5112

runawaybishop wrote: »

Is this your dog?

Very similar alright

Church on Tuesday

Raconteuse wrote: »

I wouldn't ridicule people for having faith (I am not completely without it myself), but seeing the virgin Mary in a piece of wood is silly carry-on. All silly carry-on gets ridiculed - this should be no exception.

But what's the harm in it?

I think It's kinda odd myself but if people believe in moving statues and the like and if it brings them some kind of comfort (and clearly it does) then let them at it.

JohnnyFlash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnao5SBunfI

jimgoose

I think we'd all go a long way to see Bishop Brennan's face in the skirting board, to be honest with you.

razorblunt

Ballinspittle 2.0.

'Bout time we had a new one.

Raconteuse

buckwheat wrote: »

Is it? No matter what the beliefs are? :rolleyes:

Yeah I don't get that poster's and another poster's concern about ridiculing this incident. It's absurd and funny. Absurd and funny things cause amusement all the time.

Now belittling people just because they are religious - that's a different story. But when an incident is straight out of Father Ted, I don't understand why being po faced is necessary. And as said, the priest advised it was silliness too.

PinotNero

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-are-coming-to-kiss-the-cabinet-and-say-prayers-devotees-flock-to-kerry-antique-shop-to-see-door-resembling-the-virgin-mary-38582333.html

'People are coming to kiss the cabinet and say prayers' - devotees flock to Kerry antique shop to see door resembling the Virgin Mary’

This has to be a joke. It’s a fcuking knot in a wooden door panel which vaguely resembles the outline of Mary. There are no facial or limb features. It’s a crock of shjt yet idiots are kissing and touching the door.

It’s not a patch on the Holy stone of clonrichert which was a Class 2 relic.

I'm seeing double here, four Mary's!

jiltloop

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

The Virgin Mary appeared on a toasted cheese sandwich sometime in the '90s. It was sold at auction for $28,000 in 2004.

Cheeses Christ!

Ipso

jiltloop wrote: »

Cheeses Christ!

Blessed are the cheese makers.

PinotNero

jiltloop wrote: »

Cheeses Christ!

Cheeses of Nazereth

Irish Guitarist

Coincidentally the Virgin Mary had a birthmark that resembled a cabinet.

Elemonator

Arghus wrote: »

That would be an ecumenical matter.

Is there anything to be said for another Mass?

Thephantomsmask

I hope they prevent any woodworm or it will be holey Mary

Aubree Fresh Ulcer

Aubree Fresh Ulcer wrote: »

The Virgin Mary appeared on a toasted cheese sandwich sometime in the '90s. It was sold at auction for $28,000 in 2004.

Old hat. Sure everyone is doing it. Kate Middleton appeared in a Jelly Bean once too - if I recall correctly?

igCorcaigh wrote: »

At the same time though, it's wrong to mock people's beliefs.

Be respectful.

They are kissing a door. They are mocking their own beliefs. We are just laughing at them for doing it

But no nothing wrong with mocking beliefs.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Ridiculing people for something just because you don't happen to share their beliefs is juvenile at best.

But we aren't. There are many people with many beliefs on many topics that I do not share - I do not ridicule any of those.

I do not ridicule beliefs _just_ because I do not happen to share them.

If the belief is ridiculous however - I am happy to ridicule it. There is nothing wrong with laughing at things that are actually funny.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Who cares? they're not harming anybody, people believe what they believe.

True in this case - except for the needless disease vectors created by the people all interacting orally with the same piece of wood of course.

A pity it is not always so harmless however. I think back for example on the plonker here in Ireland who got masses of people to congregate and stare directly at the sun in order to stimulate visions.

See it is easy to point at things like this and say "what harm" but if we do - then we are partly answerable for creating an environment in which other people can then talk people into blinding themselves stupidly. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye as the old saying goes

Would this be a class 3 relic ? Do you need a miracle or something before it becomes a class 2 relic?

sbsquarepants

igCorcaigh wrote: »

At the same time though, it's wrong to mock people's beliefs.

.

Why?

Some people believe some very unlikely things, crazy things even.

I myself somehow, despite the vast body of evidence to the contrary, manage to convince myself every single year on or around around the start of august that the current year will indeed be Liverpools year.

This year is different though. ;)

But as crazy beliefs go, the pool are far more likely to win the league than the virgin Mary is to appear on some ratty old furniture in the arsehole of Kerry.

Hector Savage

gctest50 wrote: »

There's an evil red-eyed demon (red arrow) with crab-claws( yellow arrow) at it's heart

Don't wanna be crude here (well **** it I do) but I think it looks like a vagina ...

Hector Savage

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Why?

Some people believe some very unlikely things, crazy things even.

I myself somehow, despite the vast body of evidence to the contrary, manage to convince myself every single year on or around around the start of august that the current year will indeed be Liverpools year.

This year is different though. ;)

But as crazy beliefs go, the pool are far more likely to win the league than the virgin Mary is to appear on some ratty old furniture in the arsehole of Kerry.

Newcastle are more likely to win 5 PL titles in a row than Mary appear on a cabinet.

sbsquarepants

Hector Savage wrote: »

Don't wanna be crude here (well **** it I do) but I think it looks like a vagina ...

Well, she did have one i suppose.......she just didn't give shots:D

BrokenArrows

People worshiping the outline of "Mary", but the outline was decided by some artist hundreds of years after she would have died had she ever existed in the first place.

Hector Savage

Elemonator wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for another Mass?

only if Fr Clabbert is doing it, I hear he does a good 4 hours since his stroke...

KildareP

Let them at it, each to their own as they say.

Millions pay good money for watching a load of sweaty lads kick a bit of leather around on some grass followed by a group hug when that bit of leather lands into a net at one end :P

Others just like worshiping antique cabinets.

Whatever gets you through life with comfort and enjoyment and isn't harming anyone else - away you go.