Prison life

Milkman1992

Hey
Does anyone have any tips for a person going to prison when the person has worked for the hse for 12 years any help with life in there and also tips for support on outside for partner with a kid and tips for having loans going in dere

10pennymixup

Yes but not legal advice, for that see a solicitor,

On a personal note, things are never as bad as they seem and all this will pass in time. In the meantime see citizens advice, FLAC, definitely a solicitor and if possible a financial adviser about any loans.

Best of luck

Atlantic Dawn

You are generally looked after better then any citizen of the state, great healthcare, food, lodgings, Sky Sports in your cell. I wouldn't worry about it. Medical card and free travel when you are released.

begbysback

There was a good thread on AMA some while back about a guys experience in jail - have a read through, he seemed like a normal joe soap who never experienced it before,

gozunda

What relevance has the 12 years in the hse as detailed? Genuine question.

Peregrinus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You are generally looked after better then any citizen of the state, great healthcare, food, lodgings, Sky Sports in your cell. I wouldn't worry about it. Medical card and free travel when you are released.

I think it's safe to say that Atlantic Dawn has never set foot inside a prison, or spoken to anyone who has.

Homer

Peregrinus wrote: »

I think it's safe to say that Atlantic Dawn has never set foot inside a prison, or spoken to anyone who has.

Tell us about your stay in prison so....

banie01

gozunda wrote: »

What relevance has the 12 years in the hse as detailed? Genuine question.

They are already institutionalised

gwalk

what are you going in for OP?

B-D-P--

Did you touch a girls arm too op??


Context: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111473916

Wanderer78

After speaking to a couple of lads that have done time, it doesn't sound like a barrel of laughs and luxury as depicted by some, keeping yourself going seems to be the thing, engaging in whatever programs are available, from work related to education etc, keeping fit is also good, keeping your mind active is key, resist all engagement with negative aspects, including drug use, and to be aware, prison is where we keep the real predators

punisher5112

For your families sake and your own stay away from drugs and keep your head down.

Don't get involved in others business and try and get onto work details such as kitchen or laundry etc to get the time passed by much quicker.

You will be allowed certain perks in the cell and if you are a model prisoner that will go a long way on how you are treated also.

TV in cell and radio is normal enough and consoles tend to be older gen depending.

Don't bring in anything illegally for others or yourself.

If you have loans etc you need to speak with the bank or credit union etc.
Get a good solicitor if not done already and as above citizens info for any questions or help.

Try and stay positive for kid and wife especially on visits if that applies.

If your wife is in a position to give money towards things that will be a big plus as you can get some nice products such as shaving foam, creams etc or sweets and so on.

Not really much else one can do and on the legal advice end you most likely had that covered at trial or hearing.

s7ryf3925pivug

beat up a guy who has no friends. I know this from watching 25th Hour. Also don't join a gang, but do make friends. I learnt that from American History X.

They throw drugs over the wall in Limerick so you don't need to shove things up your bum. (But yeah don't do drugs anyway just saying.)You'll learn to make your bed very neatly and regularly. They have different areas for different types of prisoners. So if you're a crusty they'll put you with crusties, if you're a traveler you'll be with travellers and so on. I learnt those things from a guy who was in the prison in Limerick.

(Not really advocating violence just making a pop culture reference.)

Don't try to get moved to 5b if you're in Limerick. It is worse than prison and also worse than Dundrum. Dundrum is supposed to be quite ok actually. I have that from multiple sources.

Omackeral

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

You are generally looked after better then any citizen of the state, great healthcare, food, lodgings, Sky Sports in your cell. I wouldn't worry about it. Medical card and free travel when you are released.

All hyperbole and downright untruths.

Serving as a PO myself. You'll be fine. You sound like a decent sort. People who've worked and their whole lives and aren't involved in trouble are generally left alone.

My advice would be to get yourself into a workshop or obtain a job in the kitchen. The benefits of this are many. You'll be working through the day occupying yourself rather than idly sitting at a cell wall thinking all sorts or walking laps of a yard listening to gangster stories.

It'll look favourable for you when review meetings come up for things like transfers, early release or days out. You'll have small little perks that others don't get too.

You'll meet a Governor upon committal. Explain to him/her where you're at and you'll be put somewhere accordingly if they're worth their salt.

Good luck.

Milkman1992

gozunda wrote: »

What relevance has the 12 years in the hse as detailed? Genuine question.

Just can i claim anything back

Caranica

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Just can i claim anything back

In what way?

punisher5112

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Just can i claim anything back

As in?

Pension and so on will be there, are you planning on looking for employment when you get back out?

If you are owed and holidays or pay that should be all sorted and I'm guessing your employment has been terminated.

Milkman1992

Caranica wrote: »

In what way?

From the tax i paid

gwalk

Milkman1992 wrote: »

From the tax i paid

the tax which will be used to fund you being a burden on the state?

Milkman1992

Omackeral wrote: »

All hyperbole and downright untruths.

Serving as a PO myself. You'll be fine. You sound like a decent sort. People who've worked and their whole lives and aren't involved in trouble are generally left alone.

My advice would be to get yourself into a workshop or obtain a job in the kitchen. The benefits of this are many. You'll be working through the day occupying yourself rather than idly sitting at a cell wall thinking all sorts or walking laps of a yard listening to gangster stories.

It'll look favourable for you when review meetings come up for things like transfers, early release or days out. You'll have small little perks that others don't get too.

You'll meet a Governor upon committal. Explain to him/her where you're at and you'll be put somewhere accordingly if they're worth their salt.

Good luck.

How about education while your inside

Wanderer78

gwalk wrote: »

the tax which will be used to fund you being a burden on the state?

'a burden on the the state', lovely, great intelligence there!

partyguinness

Watch the Shawshank Redemption.

corminators

Watch Shaun Attwood's youtube channel

splinter65

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Hey
Does anyone have any tips for a person going to prison when the person has worked for the hse for 12 years any help with life in there and also tips for support on outside for partner with a kid and tips for having loans going in dere

Hi OP
Will you be returning to your job on release, or has/will your employment be terminated when you go to prison?
You personally are not entitled to any SW payment while you are in prison but your partner can claim OPF/Jobseekers transition subject to the usual conditions.
If you have personal loans, mortgage etc that you can’t pay while you are away then the best thing to do is go to MABS and bring details of your outgoings and income etc and they will help you to sort it out.
Best of luck.

gwalk

Wanderer78 wrote: »

'a burden on the the state', lovely, great intelligence there!

are you saying that prisoners do not cost the state a significant financial amount?

if so please provide your findings that supports this

also please do not personally attack me and challenge my intelect

uck51js9zml2yt

How long are you going in for?

Foggy Jew

Rohan Easy Murderer wrote: »

How long are you going in for?

, and if I may be so bold as to ask, what offence were you convicted of. I'm just being nosey.

Milkman1992

gwalk wrote: »

the tax which will be used to fund you being a burden on the state?

Ok g walk can you keep that kind of stuff to yourself . Dont try to comment on some situation if you dont know full story

gwalk

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Ok g walk can you keep that kind of stuff to yourself . Dont try to comment on some situation if you dont know full story

share the full story?

youre obviously going in for a reason

Milkman1992

gwalk wrote: »

are you saying that prisoners do not cost the state a significant financial amount?

if so please provide your findings that supports this

also please do not personally attack me and challenge my intelect

God you need to cop on too your views . And just think everyone hasnt a perfect life

whippet

To be fair to the OP he is trying to ensure that he has his affairs in order while he can. Many people heading to prison couldn’t care less what mess they leave family, debts etc in.

ELM327

gwalk wrote: »

are you saying that prisoners do not cost the state a significant financial amount?

if so please provide your findings that supports this

also please do not personally attack me and challenge my intelect

70k plus per annum per prisoner

gwalk

Milkman1992 wrote: »

God you need to cop on too your views . And just think everyone hasnt a perfect life

You need to cop on being a convicted criminal

But that's none of my business ☕ðŸ¸

Wanderer78

gwalk wrote: »

You need to cop on being a convicted criminal

But that's none of my business ☕ðŸ¸

apologies, i should have used the word 'ignorance', when describing you earlier, sorry about that

Kimbot

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Ok g walk can you keep that kind of stuff to yourself . Dont try to comment on some situation if you dont know full story

Well we know what you are telling us which you are now trying to claim tax back for working in the hse for 12 years, why would anyone in their right mind think they would be entitled to claim tax back.

If you want helpful comments then give the full story.

Wanderer78

Kimbot wrote: »

Well we know what you are telling us which you are now trying to claim tax back for working in the hse for 12 years, why would anyone in their right mind think they would be entitled to claim tax back.

If you want helpful comments then give the full story.

the op isnt answerable to anyone on this forum, theyve done a wrong in society, and they have received punishment as such, via our legal system

partyguinness

Apologies if I missed it but I didn't see anywhere the OP saying that they are the person going to prison?

keavebm

gwalk wrote:

share the full story?

gwalk wrote:

youre obviously going in for a reason

He dosent have to share his full story. Hes on here asking for advice. Well obviously hes going in for a reason and that reason is none of your business. He has come on here for advice and not to be put down. Some people can be so THICK. Op keep ur head down and ul be fine. Everyone has a bad patch in life but u will rebound from this. All the best

pc7

No he doesn't have to share his story, but if he's going in for child porn or some such, he's in for a much different ride than if its white collar crime. But point stands as above, keep clean, keep busy and do everything you can to never return.

It won't hurt ya OP to watch this fairly recent vid on YouTube

https://youtu.be/m7zwieSWQ3w

Murdoc90

This guy was interviewed on the Moncrieff show a few months back. He wrote a book on his experiences in jail in England and a survival guide, might be of some use. Best of luck OP.

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/111/1117550/prison--a-survival-guide/9781529103496.html

https://www.newstalk.com/moncrieff/prison-survival-guide-874015

Milkman1992

Thank you so much everyone for there kind comments and help .
Just to let people know its not for a crime like child porn or anything like and im still hoping it will be suspended
Thanks again

partyguinness

Milkman1992 wrote: »

Thank you so much everyone for there kind comments and help .
Just to let people know its not for a crime like child porn or anything like and im still hoping it will be suspended
Thanks again

A big factor is if you have previous convictions.

If you don't and unless you have basically killed someone you will more than likely avoid jail.

Rubberchikken

Hi op
No advice to add other than keep the head down, engage with any education/work available there and keep safe.

People make mistakes. Sh@t happens and life isnt smooth for everyone but you sound like a decent person who deserves a chance so hopefully it wont come to prison time.
Take care

boege

OP,
You may be entitled to a tax refund in the current tax year. Normally tax credits are balanced over the year so if you don't complete the year in employment you may have some unused tax credits. In effect you will have overpaid tax.

The quickest way to recoup the tax is through an annual return on Revenue myAccount site. You will have to provide bank account details but I guess you can set all this up in advance, if not done already.

All of the above is outside of a conviction/jail situation - I honestly don't know if that changes anything.

Hope it all works out for you - we all make mistakes in life.

TheBoyConor

Unless you have a prior history of convictions or have committed a very serious crime like killing or sex crime then you won't be going to prison.

Even if you get a custodial sentence for a minor crime you will likely be bought to prison, sign in, sit in a waiting room for a few hours then be released on good behaviour or some other excuse.

hullaballoo

Ehm, if the OP is looking to "get his affairs in order", then he has been told to expect prison. Defence lawyers do not tell their clients to get their affairs in order over minor offences with a clean history. From what we know, there's a chance the custodial sentence will be suspended but from the OP's comments (and apologies, OP, if I am misreading), it looks like a slim chance. If it was expected that it would be a short sentence, he wouldn't be told to get his affairs in order.

We don't need to know the details of the offence etc. but if the OP is expecting prison, it was a serious offence.

OP, I do not have anything to add beyond what has been already advised in relation to taking any work that is on offer, kitchen, laundry/cleaning etc. And workshops, education and training with a view to securing employment after your release are very beneficial. There is more optimism and willingness to employ ex prisoners after release these days, although it is still very difficult.

It will depend on what prison you go to but you may not have a cell to yourself, at least initially. Hopefully you will have a single occupancy cell and won't have to share but expect to be sharing.

punisher5112

Single cell now. Sharing ended.

hullaballoo

punisher5112 wrote: »

Single cell now. Sharing ended.

Everywhere? News to me clearly but I've not been on a prison visit in years as I have zero criminal practice. If so, it's good news.

I thought for example Mountjoy would never be able to have single occupancy.

yourdeadwright

Connor is that you ? (for the day that's in it)

Fattybojangles

punisher5112 wrote: »

Single cell now. Sharing ended.

Since when?