Parents confiscated passport/drivers licence

7aubzxk43m2sni

Hi,

Mid 20's living at home, and due to a variety of reasons, my parents have confiscated my driver's licence and passport and are unwilling to return them.

How do I go about getting them back? Is it a matter of calling the local garda station for a garda to come out?

Cheers

Irishphotodesk

Unofficial answer...Move out of home, then you have some place to keep your own documents.

Official answer, you are under their roof, you may legally be entitled to the documents but unless you have your own legal representation and are willing to attempt a legal action... You are facing a tough task of getting them back.

Athdara

Apply to replace them as you have lost them.

splinter65

Karsyn Straight Scavenger wrote: »

Hi,

Mid 20's living at home, and due to a variety of reasons, my parents have confiscated my driver's licence and passport and are unwilling to return them.

How do I go about getting them back? Is it a matter of calling the local garda station for a garda to come out?

Cheers

Both these items have been stolen so apply to replace them. Some lies need to be told as the Gardaí will ask you if you know who took them.
Then find somewhere else to live and take charge if your life.

looksee

Couldn't you say to them that you are in the process of applying for replacement documents and are reporting them as stolen. This will mean you will have to go and report the theft at the Garda station so the application can be processed. You will of course be obliged to admit that you know who stole them and give the Gardai this information.

Either they will return the documents to avoid embarrassment or you will eventually get replacement documents.

Far more interesting would be to know they why felt it necessary to confiscate them, how they actually got their hands on them and why, in view of the above, you are still living at home.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Get the driving Licence sorted first, if you are actually diving. You should be carrying it with you.

VeVeX

Karsyn Straight Scavenger wrote: »

Hi,

Mid 20's living at home, and due to a variety of reasons, my parents have confiscated my driver's licence and passport and are unwilling to return them.

How do I go about getting them back? Is it a matter of calling the local garda station for a garda to come out?

Cheers

Tell the Gardaí that your parents said some things that were quite nasty and really hurt your feelings and they are also big Gemma O'Doherty supporters. They'll be in a gulag before dawn and you'll have your documents back.

Have they confiscated them for your own good?

Seems like an unhealthy environment to be living in either way.

Sleeper12

Move out and stand on your own two feet. I'm betting they will return the documents then.

looksee

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Move out and stand on your own two feet. I'm betting they will return the documents then.

Now there's a thought.

SCOOP 64

There has to be a reason and likely a good one.

Lesalare

Karsyn Straight Scavenger wrote: »

Hi,

Mid 20's living at home, and due to a variety of reasons, my parents have confiscated my driver's licence and passport and are unwilling to return them.

How do I go about getting them back? Is it a matter of calling the local garda station for a garda to come out?

Cheers

A: Mid 20's.
B: Why have they taken them from you?

Are you drink driving?

If you still live at home in your mid 20's, prepare to be treated like a teenager. You've obviously done something that makes your parents worry for your safety and possibly theirs and others associated to you.

Snotty

Jesus, sort your life out, your parents should still be "rasing" you, move out and sort your sh1t out

Purple Mountain

To the people who are saying that the op should move out, reapply for documentation, stand on own two feet etc, we don't have all the information here.
For all we know, the poster may be going through a psychiatric episode and their parents may deem them to be a risk to have these in their possession.
Is it possible, OP, this is the case or similar?

Lesalare

Purple Mountain wrote: »

To the people who are saying that the op should move out, reapply for documentation, stand on own two feet etc, we don't have all the information here.
For all we know, the poster may be going through a psychiatric episode and their parents may deem them to be a risk to have these in their possession.
Is it possible, OP, this is the case or similar?

You are right. We are so quick to judge. I respect your empathy.

OP any more info to provide?

Sleeper12

Purple Mountain wrote:

To the people who are saying that the op should move out, reapply for documentation, stand on own two feet etc, we don't have all the information here. For all we know, the poster may be going through a psychiatric episode and their parents may deem them to be a risk to have these in their possession. Is it possible, OP, this is the case or similar?

Like any thread we can only go on the information posted by OP..

I think the comments about moving out show op that it's my house, my rules. If you to live by your own rules then you need to move out. It's that simple. Mental illness or no mental illness this is a fact of life

_Brian

Mid 20’s and living at home, must be a reason they have done this.

Remedy whatever issue has caused your parents to do this.

Move out and apply for replacement documents.

Don’t bring the guards down on your parents if you’ve been an asshole and they are trying to get you back on track.

jay1988

Maybe its not that simple for the OP to just move out, you know with astronomical rent prices/ lack of rental properties available etc.

splinter65

jay1988 wrote: »

Maybe its not that simple for the OP to just move out, you know with astronomical rent prices/ lack of rental properties available etc.

My daughter aged 22 moved to Waterford in June with her friend, walked the streets with her CV, got a job in a restaurant, they found a flat there, and moved in.
All sorted in about 5 days.

my3cents

Would the Guards even be bothered about what is essentially a domestic dispute?

jay1988

splinter65 wrote: »

My daughter aged 22 moved to Waterford in June with her friend, walked the streets with her CV, got a job in a restaurant, they found a flat there, and moved in.
All sorted in about 5 days.

woop de do what has that got to do with the OP's situation?

splinter65

splinter65 wrote: »

jay1988 wrote: »

Maybe its not that simple for the OP to just move out, you know with astronomical rent prices/ lack of rental properties available etc.

My daughter aged 22 moved to Waterford in June with her friend, walked the streets with her CV, got a job in a restaurant, they found a flat there, and moved in.
All sorted in about 5 days.

Anecdotal evidence is absolutely meaningless. Literally useless.

7aubzxk43m2sni

Cheers for the replies

splinter65

jay1988 wrote: »

woop de do what has that got to do with the OP's situation?

If he doesn’t want to live at home he doesn’t have too. That’s the point.

splinter65

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anecdotal evidence is absolutely meaningless. Literally useless.

Somebody here started making excuses for why he mightn’t be able to move out of the family home.
I have recent experience of it being entirely possible and not at huge expense unless he has a disability of some kind that prevents him from doing so.

SlowBlowin

This is one thread where I think more background info is essential if good advice is to be given.

AndrewJRenko

my3cents wrote: »

Would the Guards even be bothered about what is essentially a domestic dispute?

If they have taken his legal documents, it is more than 'domestic'. They are HIS documents, not theirs. So if he does choose to report it to the Gardai, they would be obliged to act - domestic or not. Hopefully the days of people getting away with illegal acts in their own home by calling it 'domestic' are gone.


Having said that, I'd go with this advice;
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111496634&postcount=17

antodeco

splinter65 wrote: »

Somebody here started making excuses for why he mightn’t be able to move out of the family home.
I have recent experience of it being entirely possible and not at huge expense unless he has a disability of some kind that prevents him from doing so.

If we are going with random reasons why he can move it out, let's pick some random reasons why he can't:

- Mental disability
- Has children who cannot move
- Already lives in waterford

CramCycle

SlowBlowin wrote: »

This is one thread where I think more background info is essential if good advice is to be given.

Not at all, lets just wildly throw out options for sh1ts and giggles :pac:

In all honesty though, the question was what to do to get them back. Calling the Gardai is a terrible idea unless your parents are abusive.

If you want them back, report them both lost and take the hit in paying for replacements. If you call the Gardai, you are moving out, so if you are doing that anyway, call them and be packed and ready to go.

If we want to expand on why he doesn't do a legger or why his parents took them in the first place, then the OP needs to give more details but the presumption without other info would be cannot afford it or not brave enough to take the risk.

splinter65

antodeco wrote: »

If we are going with random reasons why he can move it out, let's pick some random reasons why he can't:

- Mental disability
- Has children who cannot move
- Already lives in waterford

-If he’s suffering from any kind of a disability and his parents are abusing his rights by confiscating his personal documents then I can recommend a disability advocate who will provide him with a free advocacy service anywhere in the country.
- if his children are also living in the house with him then they will also benefit from the disability advocates service.
- if they aren’t living with him then how would that stop him from moving out?
- there are other large towns and cities with reasonably priced accommodation and employment opportunities.

Unless you think that his parents should be told to move out of their own house to allow him to live there unbothered by them, then I can’t see this ending satisfactorily unless he moves out. What do you think yourself?

Sleeper12

CramCycle wrote:

In all honesty though, the question was what to do to get them back. Calling the Gardai is a terrible idea unless your parents are abusive.

OP asked for legal avenue to get them back. It's legal discussion thread so going to the Gardai or reporting it lost or stolen seems to suit the thread better than giving personal advice.

Last I heard lost or stolen passports are considered serious. If memory serves you have to jump through all sorts of hoops including garda interviews for lost passports

Yeah stolen or lost passports are no sniffle. First thing the passport office will do is inform interpol.

mylittlepony

The fact that the OP is asking how to get the Originals back and query if the garda have the power to instructs his parents to return the IDs to the OP under their roof tells me that the OP is not planning to move out.
Maybe to shame them through the legal route which is ridiculous they must have a reasonable reason to justify withholding them from op and will inform guards why they did this.
The op did admit 'due to a variety of reasons' they confiscated the licence and passport.
It is a losing game.
And if the op were to declare the ids lost (illegal) or stolen (not true as in parents' possession withheld for reasons unknown) would they still need to use their parents home address that also the op's birth address for postal delivery and proof that he live there too from household bills etc.
Vicious circle.
If the op was to move out then the parents have no choice but to return his licence and passport as he will need these identifications for renting, to secure a loan and transporting his belongings out.

CramCycle

Sleeper12 wrote: »

OP asked for legal avenue to get them back. It's legal discussion thread so going to the Gardai or reporting it lost or stolen seems to suit the thread better than giving personal advice.

Last I heard lost or stolen passports are considered serious. If memory serves you have to jump through all sorts of hoops including garda interviews for lost passports

Which seems weird unless the OP is planning on moving out, hence the advice. If the OP doesn't care about that relationship, then by all means, go to the gardai and report it. The whole thread (not the advice but the original post) seems to be missing quite a bit of info which makes it really weird. Why did his parents take it? Is he planning on staying? In his 20s why would they need to take it? What trouble (possibly legal) will the OP be in if they get the passport (as in why would a parent take it from them).

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah stolen or lost passports are no sniffle. First thing the passport office will do is inform interpol.

I have lost one before, reported it, no huge deal, they may have informed interpol but unless the OP uses it, it doesn't make any difference to him. I just had to get the garda to stamp a form, think they put it in the log book at the desk, if it went further I never knew about it.

But yes, correct, ignoring all the issues it will bring up considering ie the OP will be accusing the parents of theft, if proof is found, will the gardai arrest the parents (or parent). You are indeed correct, the simplest thing to do considering no other info is available and the OP asked for legal advice is to notify the Gardai.

As an aside question, would the gardai hold the passport and DL as evidence if they did arrest the parents?

AndrewJRenko

mylittlepony wrote: »

The op did admit 'due to a variety of reasons' they confiscated the licence and passport.
It is a losing game.
And if the op were to declare the ids lost (illegal) or stolen (not true as in parents' possession withheld for reasons unknown)

There is no 'withheld' in law. They are his property, and the parents have taken them without his permission. They have stolen his property, regardless of their reasons.


Though as I said above, I'm not sure that involving the Garda is the best option, though it's difficult to know given the lack of information.

antimatterx

I'm 23 living at home and my parents still hold onto most of documents. There's never an issue when I need them, but I leave them in my parents possession.

Passport, Birth Cert ect

Sleeper12

CramCycle wrote:

Which seems weird unless the OP is planning on moving out, hence the advice. If the OP doesn't care about that relationship, then by all means, go to the gardai and report it. The whole thread (not the advice but the original post) seems to be missing quite a bit of info which makes it really weird. Why did his parents take it? Is he planning on staying? In his 20s why would they need to take it? What trouble (possibly legal) will the OP be in if they get the passport (as in why would a parent take it from them).

I understand all of this and I agree with you but in fairness to op they posted it in legal discussion & not in the relationship forum. I'm not telling people how they should post but I don't think op is interested in our advice on how to best handle this. They seem only interested in forcing the return by the legal route. Not the best route in my opinion but its what they want

pablo128

I had post being opened at home as a young adult. A threat to call the Gardai put a stop to it.

I also had a gold chain stolen by a brother. This time I reported it to Gardai and informed the mother they were on the way. Magically the chain turned up an hour later as the folks didnt want the Gardai knocking on the door.

To the OP, report them, and let your folks know you're reporting them. You can always call the Gardai and tell them your documents have been found, if they are handed over, and no further action will be taken.

Sleeper12

antimatterx wrote:

I'm 23 living at home and my parents still hold onto most of documents. There's never an issue when I need them, but I leave them in my parents possession.

My wife minds mine.

whomitconcerns

pablo128 wrote: »

I had post being opened at home as a young adult. A threat to call the Gardai put a stop to it.

I also had a gold chain stolen by a brother. This time I reported it to Gardai and informed the mother they were on the way. Magically the chain turned up an hour later as the folks didnt want the Gardai knocking on the door.

To the OP, report them, and let your folks know you're reporting them. You can always call the Gardai and tell them your documents have been found, if they are handed over, and no further action will be taken.

You threatened to call the guards on your own parents in their house while you were living in it? Bloody 'ell.....

pablo128

whomitconcerns wrote: »

You threatened to call the guards on your own parents in their house while you were living in it? Bloody 'ell.....

Yes as they were breaking the law by opening my post after being asked not to.

Let me guess what your solution would have been. Move out.:rolleyes:

whomitconcerns

pablo128 wrote: »

Yes as they were breaking the law by opening my post after being asked not to.

Let me guess what your solution would have been. Move out.:rolleyes:

Of their house? Yes (obvs I don't know your circumstances though)

pablo128

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Of their house? Yes (obvs I don't know your circumstances though)

Well my solution worked. Problem solved.

Hoboo

pablo128 wrote: »

Well my solution worked. Problem solved.

I'm sure you all laugh about it now over Christmas dinner

pablo128

Hoboo wrote: »

I'm sure you all laugh about it now over Christmas dinner

No the brother who stole my chain is a scummy dirtbird who I don't speak a single word to anymore. I get on very well with my parents and sister and 3 other brothers.

Sleeper12

pablo128 wrote:

Let me guess what your solution would have been. Move out.

Not to pick a fight but their house, their rules.

Not in a million years would I call the gardai on my family for such a thing. Move out would have been a better solution & if my adult children did such a thing on me or my wife it would be the last day they ever stayed in my home. Having said that we don't open their mail.

pablo128

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not to pick a fight but their house, their rules.

Not in a million years would I call the gardai on my family for such a thing. Move out would have been a better solution & if my adult children did such a thing on me or my wife it would be the last day they ever stayed in my home. Having said that we don't open their mail.

Well you don't have an issue then, do you.

I have given a practical solution which worked for me, and may work for the op.

It's a lot more constructive than just telling him to move out.

splinter65

pablo128 wrote: »

Yes as they were breaking the law by opening my post after being asked not to.

Let me guess what your solution would have been. Move out.:rolleyes:

Why would you continue to live in those circumstances when you can choose to live somewhere else?
Why do your parents continue to allow you to live there?

pablo128

splinter65 wrote: »

Why would you continue to live in those circumstances when you can choose to live somewhere else?
Why do your parents continue to allow you to live there?

Why are you speaking in the present tense?

splinter65

whomitconcerns wrote: »

You threatened to call the guards on your own parents in their house while you were living in it? Bloody 'ell.....

It seems to be a series of threats meted out by Pablo designed to keep the home owners under his control.
I worry for parents of adult children who should be gone and living independently but who refuse to budge and then try to impose house rules when they have absolutely no right to.

pablo128

splinter65 wrote: »

It seems to be a series of threats meted out by Pablo designed to keep the home owners under his control.
I worry for parents of adult children who should be gone and living independently but who refuse to budge and then try to impose house rules when they have absolutely no right to.

Have you anything to add to the thread to help the op? This is legal discussion.

BTW I am middle aged and haven't lived with my parents for decades.