Season Ticket 2020

SecretsOfEarth

Even though I only got a Season Ticket this year, after a few years of to-ing and fro-ing, this kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can only imagine how long-term ST holders feel.

I don't think anybody would have been immediately marching to Croke Park looking for a full refund, as we all understand how unprecedented and fluid this situation is for everyone, not least the GAA. It's the sneaky, calculated nature of the change to the T&C's that really grates.

It is a slap in the face to the loyal GAA fans and community, with season ticket holders filling seats and building atmosphere long before and long after the bandwagoners and prawn sandwich brigade throughout the GAA calendar.

If they had just come out and said: "We don't know what will happen with games in 2020. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the organisation's funding structure and allocation of income, it will not be feasible to offer a full refund to all Season Ticket holders. A certain gesture will be made to reimburse ST holders, and we hope that they will understand and stick with the organisation through this challenging time", I'm sure most ST holders would be entirely reasonable and accept this. Instead, they worked behind the scenes to try and undermine anyone who would question their entitlements.

Overall, it should be a lesson learned, but it would make one question how much guaranteed income, support and loyalty is valued by the GAA.

h2005

"With reference to the updated Terms and Conditions applicable to the GAA season ticket, this was seeking to provide greater clarity to the existing terms and conditions for our season ticket holders and not an attempt by the GAA to step back from its obligations in dealing with the matter at hand."

After all the time they have had to think about this, this is the best they could come up with? They must have furloughed the PR guy. I'd like to see them explain how inserting an illegal term provides greater clarity.

km79

That will do me
Might even snare another juvenile mayo one if people don’t renew !

mayo.mick

km79 wrote: »

That will do me
Might even snare another juvenile mayo one if people don’t renew !

I know of numerous Mayo season tickets that were'nt renewed this year, NOT 1 went back for resale. I was sure that they'd at least be converted to the cairde club+ tickets, but not even that.

irishgeo

h2005 wrote: »

"With reference to the updated Terms and Conditions applicable to the GAA season ticket, this was seeking to provide greater clarity to the existing terms and conditions for our season ticket holders and not an attempt by the GAA to step back from its obligations in dealing with the matter at hand."

After all the time they have had to think about this, this is the best they could come up with? They must have furloughed the PR guy. I'd like to see them explain how inserting an illegal term provides greater clarity.

That's not the term that's illegal. It's one saying the change the terms anyway they want without consulting you.

It's gives them the advantage which is illegal.

PTH2009

I didn't get any email

SeeMoreBut

How many Dublin holders will hand them back as a result? A tiny if any.

muddle84

mayo.mick wrote: »

I know of numerous Mayo season tickets that were'nt renewed this year, NOT 1 went back for resale. I was sure that they'd at least be converted to the cairde club+ tickets, but not even that.

I got onto them about that as i also knew a good few that didn't renew. They said there is a substantial waiting list which has to be filled before tickets go on resale. Its not possible to get on the waiting list either as its closed.

I think when they sold out around 2016 they started the waiting list and then when they realised the demand they thought that's a bad idea and closed it.

mayo.mick

muddle84 wrote: »

I got onto them about that as i also knew a good few that didn't renew. They said there is a substantial waiting list which has to be filled before tickets go on resale. Its not possible to get on the waiting list either as its closed.

I think when they sold out around 2016 they started the waiting list and then when they realised the demand they thought that's a bad idea and closed it.

I know about the "waiting list" alright! But that's the thing, I don't think anyone got the offer to buy a season ticket that was on the list.

eamo22

What do yous think about this reduced capacity at Croke Park. Article on rte saying there will be some sort of lottery for tickets. Surely we would be still entitled to avail of our season ticket.

km79

eamo22 wrote: »

What do yous think about this reduced capacity at Croke Park. Article on rte saying there will be some sort of lottery for tickets. Surely we would be still entitled to avail of our season ticket.

You can be sure and certain the corporate/premium sector will be looked after first

eamo22

km79 wrote: »

You can be sure and certain the corporate/premium sector will be looked after first

If that happens and we are forgotten about I will be looking for more than credits toward next year's ticket.

SeeMoreBut

General admission tickets be a distance pass

irishgeo

eamo22 wrote: »

What do yous think about this reduced capacity at Croke Park. Article on rte saying there will be some sort of lottery for tickets. Surely we would be still entitled to avail of our season ticket.

the hill could be shut. cant social distance if everyone is gathered together.

BonnieSituation

irishgeo wrote: »

the hill could be shut. cant social distance if everyone is gathered together.

They're considering putting seats on it.

If anything, surely the season ticket holder is more likely to be accommodated rather than setting up an entirely new system to accommodate a new random/lottery cohort.

muddle84

If I am lucky enough to be in the situation to be going to a AI Final and I don't get a ticket. I want my money back!

slegs

BonnieSituation wrote: »

They're considering putting seats on it.

If anything, surely the season ticket holder is more likely to be accommodated rather than setting up an entirely new system to accommodate a new random/lottery cohort.

It would be mindboggling if season ticket holders are not the first group to be accommodated. Firstly, because they bought tickets and the right to attend in advance and secondly because it solves a problem for the GAA as to what to do with these people who paid in advance (re refunds etc).

BonnieSituation

slegs wrote: »

It would be mindboggling if season ticket holders are not the first group to be accommodated. Firstly, because they bought tickets and the right to attend in advance and secondly because it solves a problem for the GAA as to what to do with these people who paid in advance (re refunds etc).

Exactly. That's my thinking.

irishgeo

The international people who usually attend could be restricted if a travel quarantine is still in place.

Hulk Hands

km79 wrote: »

You can be sure and certain the corporate/premium sector will be looked after first

eamo22 wrote: »

If that happens and we are forgotten about I will be looking for more than credits toward next year's ticket.

Why wouldn't the premium section be sorted first, out of interest? The season ticket is seen as king here. Well a premium subscription is basically a much more expensive season ticket, for all Croke Park GAA games. It's a hell of a lot less businesses, and a lot more average GAA lovers than you'd imagine that hold seats.

munchkin_utd

irishgeo wrote: »

The international people who usually attend could be restricted if a travel quarantine is still in place.

that'll not make much of a difference when they only get approx 472 tickets, and if you look at the number of county boards within Britain, they surely have half the allocation if not more, and they wont be subject to quarantine.

Schools and educational bodies get 2,229 though so shafting them provides a better return on your ticket cull.

in reality, the allocation for Irish counties (including vast numbers to non participating counties) will provide the main way of reducing the attendance, as thats 58,401 of the 71,478 general admission capacity, excluding premium tickets.

Reports already say that the premium level will be reduced with the hit coming from within that area and anyone not getting to attend this year will get a credit for the year after or something like that.

figures from a few years back, but they change little from year to year:
https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/where-do-the-all-ireland-final-tickets-go-39259

BonnieSituation

irishgeo wrote: »

The international people who usually attend could be restricted if a travel quarantine is still in place.

I really don't think we should be giving a fig about them. They should be so low in the list of priorities that they're barely given a footnote to look at the appendix.

BonnieSituation

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Why wouldn't the premium section be sorted first, out of interest? The season ticket is seen as king here. Well a premium subscription is basically a much more expensive season ticket, for all Croke Park GAA games. It's a hell of a lot less businesses, and a lot more average GAA lovers than you'd imagine that hold seats.

You're completely correct.
I'm not sure why anyone would get annoyed about premium getting sorted first. Again, like the ST there are already systems in place and the ability to segregate is easier.

SecretsOfEarth

Echoing everyone's thoughts here, the GAA would be out of their minds to not have ST holders and other scheme tickets as #1 on their allocation list. It's only fair as these people are avid supporters, and GAA have a solid reason in that, if they bypassed these fans, they would have more legal and financial pressure for refunds which would cancel out some of the benefit of even having matches.

irishgeo

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Echoing everyone's thoughts here, the GAA would be out of their minds to not have ST holders and other scheme tickets as #1 on their allocation list. It's only fair as these people are avid supporters, and GAA have a solid reason in that, if they bypassed these fans, they would have more legal and financial pressure for refunds which would cancel out some of the benefit of even having matches.

Watch out for the sneaky change of conditions.

kala85

Will people still go to the games with the Covid still around.

What are they going to do with the premium seats?

irishgeo

All these calculations are on 2m distance rule. If it changes to 1m it could increase the attendance.

slegs

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Why wouldn't the premium section be sorted first, out of interest? The season ticket is seen as king here. Well a premium subscription is basically a much more expensive season ticket, for all Croke Park GAA games. It's a hell of a lot less businesses, and a lot more average GAA lovers than you'd imagine that hold seats.

Yes, Premium and ST are similar and both should be first to get sorted. Think people are talking about these lottery floated ideas. If ST holders are lumped into a lottery there will be a big issue. In reduced capacity ST holders should be first served and any remaining seats then lotteried. Cant see any other option that makes sense.

Premium is a Croke Park only problem anyway. I expect they will use other stadia where seating can be manged - PuC, Thurles, Limerick etc

kaizersoze

kala85 wrote: »

Will people still go to the games with the Covid still around.

I won't. TBH, I've lost interest in attending sports in general for this year. Hurling, football, camogie, rugby.....all of them I'm sorry to say. Family safety is more important.

irishgeo wrote: »

All these calculations are on 2m distance rule. If it changes to 1m it could increase the attendance.

Down to 1 meter won't make much difference really. On paper it may allow a bigger attendance but in reality how would it work and how would it be policed?
Blank off/remove seats? If they do what happens if a family group with kids arrive and want to sit together? What about grounds with little or no seating?
It's the same for rugby. Connacht are in bother. They have no seating at all except 1 small covered stand.

BonnieSituation

kaizersoze wrote: »

I won't. TBH, I've lost interest in attending sports in general for this year. Hurling, football, camogie, rugby.....all of them I'm sorry to say. Family safety is more important.



Down to 1 meter won't make much difference really. On paper it may allow a bigger attendance but in reality how would it work and how would it be policed?
Blank off/remove seats? If they do what happens if a family group with kids arrive and want to sit together? What about grounds with little or no seating?
It's the same for rugby. Connacht are in bother. They have no seating at all except 1 small covered stand.

TBF people adapted to policing queues pretty quickly.

I can't see seats in a stadium being much different. Have you seen buses in Dublin?

kaizersoze

BonnieSituation wrote: »

TBF people adapted to policing queues pretty quickly.

I can't see seats in a stadium being much different. Have you seen buses in Dublin?

Policing queues into a shop is one thing, policing a few thousand in through turnstiles when most arrive around the same time is another thing. Then the whistle blows and everyone tries to get out together. Even with the best of intentions I can't see it easily managed.

I have indeed seen Dublin & Expressway busses. Well laid out and people policing themselves in fairness on normal work-a-day situations. I've also seen pictures when the passenger numbers rise of people crowding in, ignoring restrictions and blanked seats and sitting on top of each other basically.

deise08

Can I ask a silly question?
When ' season ticket activations' are being advertised.
What exactly is it?

Is it for people buying a whole new ticket?
Or is it for missed scans for attended matches.

Thanks.

kala85

Any word on refunds.

For those that got a club plus ticket are you getting access to club games

TCDStudent1

kala85 wrote: »

Any word on refunds.

For those that got a club plus ticket are you getting access to club games

In Galway, club + ticket holders are not getting access to club games while the 200 restriction applies. All tickets through clubs. It is expected that this will change when crowd increases to 500.

diceyreilly

Season tickets for 2020 have been cancelled.

€40 refund.

An absolute ball ache if Dublin make the final and some fans can attend.

slegs

Not happy about this. How did they come up with this number.

---

2020 GAA Season Ticket Update

A chara,

Due to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic and with no clarity on the potential number of spectators allowed in attendance for our proposed Inter County Championship later in the year we have been left with no option but to cancel your GAA Season Ticket for 2020.

Your Season Ticket will not be eligible for the remainder of the 2020 Season.

A refund of €40 for all Adult Tickets and €10 for all Juvenile Tickets will be paid into your accounts within the next two weeks.

We have delayed taking this step until now as we hoped that Government guidelines would be eased to the point where we could accommodate all Season Ticket holders to attend their chosen games. This is becoming increasingly uncertain and has led us to make this unwelcome decision.

Thank You for your understanding throughout these uncertain times. Season Tickets will be available for renewal for 2021 which we will contact you about in due course.

Le meas,

DDC1990

Not happy. Would have preferred to have kept the Season ticket going and potentially lost the €40 but still have priority for tickets later in the year if games go ahead with reduced crowds.

However we are in the middle of a global health emergency. If I miss a few games I'll get over it.

slegs

Better option would have been to cancel rest of this year and just roll the tickets over for 2021. That would have been a nice gesture towards ST holders. But no, they chose the option where they will make more money. People buy the ST mostly for guaranteed access to championship tickets which understandably is not possible now. The free league game access is a bonus feature of the tickets. By going this route they are essentially charging customers in retrospect for the league games they attended. Not happy at all and very mean spirited of the GAA.

lukin

Just got an email that my season ticket has been cancelled for the remainder of the season. So with reduced attendances season ticket holders will not be able to go to games and those that don't have season tickets will be.

Trampas

So basically screw the person who give them money constantly over the years when others wouldn’t. I guess they’ll be flogging tickets another way

VONSHIRACH

Very disappointing if there are going to be people attending games in Oct Nov Dec. Am going to league and championship games for years, always renewed early.

Trampas

Any word on Parnell pass for Dublin side of things? Will they be hit also?

km79

40 euro? Sure the first championship game would have been free and would have damn near cost that. They will cancel the whole scheme now I fear
I only made 3/5 league games
My lads juvenile ticket was upgraded to adult as he was over 18
so the 3 league games cost me 160 euro?
Joke

Trampas

I’m surprised call has been made already as county games not scheduled until October

Past30Now

slegs wrote: »

Better option would have been to cancel rest of this year and just roll the tickets over for 2021. That would have been a nice gesture towards ST holders. But no, they chose the option where they will make more money. People buy the ST mostly for guaranteed access to championship tickets which understandably is not possible now. The free league game access is a bonus feature of the tickets. By going this route they are essentially charging customers in retrospect for the league games they attended. Not happy at all and very mean spirited of the GAA.

Agree completely with the above. Feeling rightly screwed. Agree that it's a difficult decision, but by the looks of things this is the worst of both worlds. If games happen, we'll be in a scramble for tickets, despite "investing" in the season ticket for the last number of years. €40 back out of €120 isn't reasonable either.

deise08

Got the email as well. Shocking decision.
Should have just carried it through for next year.

Really not a happy bunny right now.

More expensive for the league games by buying the seasons ticket.

Trampas

Virtually impossible to get a ticket

ureds

Trampas wrote: »

I’m surprised call has been made already as county games not scheduled until October

At best a crowd restriction of 500 will be useless for the vast majority of inter county games.
If games are played it will be behind closed doors.

PTH2009

I didn't get an email ?

slegs

PTH2009 wrote: »

I didn't get an email ?

If Gmail check the promotions folder. It comes through as a marketing mail just to stick the knife in further