Ireland Versus New Zealand Build Up Thread

Yeah_Right

I'm going to be so against the Irish tomorrow that I'll be putting bourbon in my morning coffee.

aloooof

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I'm going to be so against the Irish tomorrow that I'll be putting bourbon in my morning coffee.

Getting started early on drowning your sorrows?

Kermit.de.frog

Be interesting to see what the scale of the hiding is.

Within 20 points of New Zealand would be decent enough?

Deaf student

Dont like when some irish players talking or bragging too much before tmw match. It doesn't bode well. It's better to focus on the game itself with 100% rather than bragging etc.


Think pace with offloading by AB could be the key. Also quick counter attacking with some offloads that could also lead to tries as well. Once you stretch Ireland backline then a gap in width will open up would be the key cos Ireland play narrow.

Think AB to win by 20 or more. AB usually clinical and ruthless.Although I could be wrong there. Anyway placed a bet for draw cos good odds.

fryup

Deaf student wrote: »

Dont like when someone Irish players talking or bragging too much before tmw match. It doesn't bode well. It's better to focus on the game itself with 100 rather than bragging etc.

oh ya? and who's doing this?

aloooof

Deaf student wrote: »

Dont like when some irish players talking or bragging too much before tmw match. It doesn't bode well. It's better to focus on the game itself with 100% rather than bragging etc.

What Irish players have been bragging? What have they said?

EDIT: fryup - snap.

Deaf student

Here :https://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-quarter-final-4849048-Oct2019/

Dave_The_Sheep

I fail to see any bragging there.

baaba maal

Deaf student wrote: »

Here :https://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-quarter-final-4849048-Oct2019/

“I’d be surprised if they’re scared of us but they definitely know we can come and play and that we can beat them.

But they’re playing ridiculously well at the moment, they’re just looking sharp. They look like they’ve timed their run nicely. If it is them we’ll have to be at 110% to get stuck into them.”


This is not bragging.

sydthebeat

Deaf student wrote: »

Here :https://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-quarter-final-4849048-Oct2019/

Theres literally no bragging in any of the quotes there???

Danthemanhere

:pac: How many of you are on edge? Getting triggered over everything!

FrancieBrady

Deaf student wrote: »

Here :https://www.the42.ie/ireland-all-blacks-quarter-final-4849048-Oct2019/

DO you know what 'bragging means'?

If not review the latest offering from our Kiwi friends in the other threads.

Basil 3 wrote:

There's more of everything in NZ.

More rain.
More sunshine.
More offloads.
More tries.
More semis.
More finals.
More RWC trophies.

Dave_The_Sheep

Two posts. I think that's a record.

Deaf student

Danthemanhere wrote: »

:pac: How many of you are on edge? Getting triggered over everything!

LOL.

Akrasia

New Zealand All Blacks to shown up for the Fraud that is their name

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

DO you know what 'bragging means'?

If not review the latest offering from our Kiwi friends in the other threads.

I'm glad we're all friends, and we will still be after tomorrow, win or lose

Yeah_Right

FrancieBrady wrote: »

DO you know what 'bragging means'?

If not review the latest offering from our Kiwi friends in the other threads.

Mate. Thats not bragging. Thats just stating a few simple facts.

Bragging/taunting is the rubbish that Conway and Best were saying in that article. Shocking lack of humility. Much like everything said by every member of the Irish squad and their fans this week!!

FrancieBrady

Basil3 wrote: »

I'm glad we're all friends, and we will still be after tomorrow, win or lose

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Mate. Thats not bragging. Thats just stating a few simple facts.

Bragging/taunting is the rubbish that Conway and Best were saying in that article. Shocking lack of humility. Much like everything said by every member of the Irish squad and their fans this week!!

Must try harder lads/mates or whatever you think you are now.

Tomorrow we do battle as equals. It may be your day and it may be ours.

I will remain humble in victory, you guys will still be attention seeking amadán's - win or lose.

mangobob

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Must try harder lads/mates or whatever you think you are now.

Tomorrow we do battle as equals. It may be your day and it may be ours.

I will remain humble in victory, you guys will still be attention seeking amadán's - win or lose.

Channeling your inner Conor McGregor there...

FrancieBrady

mangobob wrote: »

Channeling your inner Conor McGregor there...

I wouldn't let that buck in to the shed!

Yeah_Right

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I will remain humble in victory, you guys will still be attention seeking amadán's - win or lose.

I'm just going to assume that amadan means all round good guy. So thanks.

FrancieBrady

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I'm just going to assume that amadan means all round good guy. So thanks.

Tá

davedanon

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Mate. Thats not bragging. Thats just stating a few simple facts.

Bragging/taunting is the rubbish that Conway and Best were saying in that article. Shocking lack of humility. Much like everything said by every member of the Irish squad and their fans this week!!

Nice to see you're staying humble. classy.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Can’t see anything else but an Irish win by 5-6 tries.

FrancieBrady

I'm hoping for a trilla!

Road-Hog

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'm hoping for a trilla!

Yes that stupid war dance really adds to the occasion.....the ‘tongue’ routine is really special....!

Akrasia

Right, so who else is rewatching last November’s game tonight? (Again)

Yeah_Right

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'm hoping for a trilla!

They could at least get the name of the team right. It is quite funny.

Tigerandahalf

Not sure what way the game will go tomorrow.
Ireland look to be on a downward trend since last November and I think some of the rule changes around the tackle are going against Ireland and towards sides who offload the ball.

Retallick is back for NZ. They were looking fairly vulnerable in the lineout area and it is still an area Ireland could do well from. Ireland's tactics have changed lately from predominant box kicking to moving the ball out to the first receiver and rucking it up. It will be interesting to see if they go back to basics. Reece will definitely be targeted for high balls especially with Stockdale's height.

I'd imagine NZ will try to get out of the blocks and try and make a good lead to force Ireland to chase which they are not comfortable with. If Ireland get a good start they could smother NZ out of the game.

Nigel Owens is reffing and his style tends to favour Ireland. It has been noticeable how some of the SH referees don't like teams holding the ball at the scrum, maul or ruck too long whereas Nigel will allow that and will communicate to players rather than penalise.

Who will be up for it more? I'd imagine Ire will have a few more nerves knowing another 1/4 final exit could be on the cards. NZ should be well motivated after November's loss.

Del.Monte

Akrasia wrote: »

Right, so who else is rewatching last November’s game tonight? (Again)

Not me, and it was fake news anyway like that non-story from Chicago.

pc7

Del.Monte wrote: »

Not me, and it was fake news anyway like that non-story from Chicago.

Not you too Del! Adds to the list with Yeah Right and Basil!

Anymore kiwi infiltrators I should be aware of.

Dave_The_Sheep

Akrasia wrote: »

Right, so who else is rewatching last November’s game tonight? (Again)

Watched it earlier with dinner.

I might stick it on again tomorrow morning around 11.15 and then pretend that's how the game goes.

Akrasia

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Watched it earlier with dinner.

I might stick it on again tomorrow morning around 11.15 and then pretend that's how the game goes.

No need, the all blacks will get PTSD at first glimpse of Furlong and their front row will be reduced to a whimpering wreck at the memory of the Irish scrum Dominance

Donnielighto

Porter scrum penalties for days when he lands in on 55

Del.Monte

pc7 wrote: »

Not you too Del! Adds to the list with Yeah Right and Basil!

Anymore kiwi infiltrators I should be aware of.

swiwi_ but he seems to be missing the last month or so.

I'm only a plastic kiwi/paddy as I'm originally from Hampstead many, many years ago.

Akrasia

Akrasia wrote: »

Right, so who else is rewatching last November’s game tonight? (Again)

I've watched our last four encounters. If we can play like we did in any of those matches, we have every chance.

kuang1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've watched our last four encounters. If we can play like we did in any of those matches, we have every chance.

This* has, in truth, been destined for quite some time.

*this being our victory of epic proportions which initiates the true end of the NZ dominance of World rugby.
Amen.

Blud

Niallof9 wrote: »

Forgive me for i am getting hyped. I'd like to alpologise for all my bluster on here the past few weeks. I talk alot of nonsense like us all. I love Ireland and think we can be the best in the World. My criticism of Joe Schmidt is pure folly and is foolish. Many of you have come on with great riposte to us critics. I was pretty shameful after the defeat to Japan. This is it, this is our time. There is no space for negative souls like myself.

We all know the Shankly quote, about life and death and sport. To people like him it was more important. To normal people its a flippant remark. To a sports person it is their life. It’s what he grew up doing, living, breathing. Marketing and the social media saturation and dour quotes have killed some of the mystery and the Shankly’s. Yet sport still stirs. Shankly’s abound.

Rugby is a different gravy in some parts. Mistrusted, disowned, misunderstood. You may hate rugby, Breffni, the marketing, the rules, the jocks, Irelands call, sport or life itself. This Saturday sit yourself down, stir your tea. Sip your early pint or cool the porridge. Morning mindfulness. Turn on the telly, to the match. Watch a little. You’ll be better for it. Forget about the talk of elites, of posh people, of marketing taglines and teams of us. Drink in the joy of Irish people striving for their Island. Admire the game for what it is, a normal sport.

For Its only our Island, North and South, sitting westerly in the Atlantic, cold and windswept, warmed by firesides and stories, throughout the rugged green lands, taking on another rugged small island , with their own different story. Green versus Black. Might versus Might. Gladiators at our disposal, but human beings beating underneath.

First things first, rugby is not the people’s sport. It’s not even the World’s sport. It’s just a game followed and played by women, children and men in all the counties of Ireland. You can’t put jumpers down for goalposts. It has hard rules and hard hits. Neil Francis exists in a rarefied air. Never have i heard these words uttered in any club game or ground.

Its only a sport, not a barometer of class or creed or faith. Tip, tag, touch, amateur, semi pro, professional. All with the same muck on their faces and fires in their bellies. Big people, small people, fast people, slow people. Its a distraction, a dollop of passion in a world where we spend more time in work than at home, pay the bills, fix the car, dream of summer breaks. Sport all across this Island enables people to dream. Locally, nationally. Sport isn’t for one or the other, it’s for everybody. While we erode it with marketing slogans and taglines, thousands of innocent children lace up their boots, and cheered on by the mammy or the daddy. It’s still too much centred around certain centres, there is no denying it. Yet a win on the World Stage would do wonders.

The IRFU surely understand that St.Michael’s can not become a sole nursery. Yet James Ryan, a Michael’s man, his grandfather a man of the rising. Perceptions, cliches, contradictions of identity abound in Irish life. Names that resound through Irish history and modern life like Cusack, DeValera, Canning, O’Sullivan, MacCauley played the oval ball. Men like Richard Harris spoke in breathless terms of Irish rugby. His heroes were the rugby men of of his city of Limerick. Christy Moore propped and pored the porter up in Bective. People like Ewan MacKenna talk of elites. But i took the field with plumbers, bankers, foreign men, gay men, selfish men, selfless men, workers, slackers, jacklers, tacklers, talkers, moaners, wingers, singers losers and winners. I was a ruck inspector myself.

Rugby, like hockey and cricket is played on an all Ireland basis. Its a building block to a brighter and better future. It’s shown that we can live and build in peace. North and South united in sport. Compromises, of course. But its worth it as it banishes the brexit blues and the awkwardness of partition. There may never be a United Ireland in name, but if there is, a Irish rugby team winning a World Cup would surely be at the heart of it. At least we will be united in passion and distracted at least for awhile.

For me personally, rugby has got me through some very dark parts of my life. The camaraderie, the spirt, the suffering, the challenge. Tears shed as I questioned the very meaning of who I was. It was just luck that i played rugby no other reason. 80 minutes battle fare, changed the narrative, shifted the mood.

There is more important things then sport, yes, but it is the great distraction. The dollop of passion and pride. And worth. One we all need at some time or another. Watch it with friends, loved ones. Roar it on. Cheer. Cry. Hug. Sing. Feel the passion of the Island come through your veins. Its only for a small while. Eighty minutes to put the talk of elites or society away. All that nonsense drifts away. These are 23 men fighting for their Island, for glory on the global stage. They chose nothing for their lives, only dedicated themselves since small children to one pursuit and passion. How does Ewan Mackenna, an avowed sports lover hate that?

As Richard Harris said, these are our square jawed gladiators, taking to the pit with the green on their backs. They’d do it for free like some of their fathers before them, but they don’t and so what of it. Some of them will go out on their shields tomorrow, their bodies broken, their hearts and lungs burnt. I stand up for them, my fellow Irish man.

Hate it fear it, despise it. But know by doing so all you are doing is hating on your fellow Irish who strive to entertain us. Are you not entertained as the great Maximus once cried. There’s no pleasing everybody. That is ok. Don’t watch, turn off. Switch off. Nobody is forcing rugby on you. Its a sport. Just a sport. After the whistle, after the blood and guts, the hand shakes and the muttered words, us mortals will shuffle on our coil back to the taxes and the work. Win with humility, lose with dignity, or is it the other way around. Why cannot it be both. Tomorrow we will be better for it all.

The Ewan McKenna’s of the World will sit in their dens, waitng and watching. For what only they truly know.

Lets get behind Ireland as they take on the might of the Rugby World. As Brendan Behan once said if it was raining soup the Irish would go out with forks. If the Irish rugby team wins or loses many people would come out with their fork equivalents. We are a curious stubborn people. Don’t listen to the Ewan Mackenna’s and the haters, the moaners, the gougers or the hypers. Listen to the call of your country and the passion it can provoke.

This guff reads even worse now. Calls of passion and heart followed up by that spineless cowardly rubbish.

Dave_The_Sheep

Speaking of cowardly, easy to stick the knives in after the game.

Blud

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Speaking of cowardly, easy to stick the knives in after the game.

I called it out before the game too. It's on this thread.