Poppy to become more inclusive

Treppen

Will this appease people who are anxious about the Poppy promoting the atrocities up the North?

It includes civilians who were killed now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/15/red-poppy-used-remember-civilian-victims-for-first-time

Feisar

Treppen wrote: »

Will this appease people who are anxious about the Poppy promoting the atrocities up the North?

It includes civilians who were killed now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/15/red-poppy-used-remember-civilian-victims-for-first-time

Poppy to become more convoluted more like.

Montage of Feck

Never heard of her.

FrancieBrady

The 'I can't believe it's not a Poppy' poppy.

Plumbthedepths

Treppen wrote: »

Will this appease people who are anxious about the Poppy promoting the atrocities up the North?

It includes civilians who were killed now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/15/red-poppy-used-remember-civilian-victims-for-first-time

Will the legion offer some of the funds towards the families of civilians murdered by the British army? Not just in the North but elsewhere where the BA murdered civilians.

whisky_galore

That hardy perennial, the Poppy thread.
Uff, past caring at this stage.

lawred2

Treppen wrote: »

Will this appease people who are anxious about the Poppy promoting the atrocities up the North?

It includes civilians who were killed now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/15/red-poppy-used-remember-civilian-victims-for-first-time

Where do the proceeds go?

armaghlad

Wonder does that include civilians murdered by the British armed forces?

begsbyOnaTrain

My missus (English) wears a poppy, but it's the same one. She doesn't buy a new one every year. So good? Right?

jam_mac_jam

Oh great, the annual poppy talk. On the radio on boards. hooray

ohnonotgmail

the annual poppy threads start earlier and earlier every year.

Your Face

Numbers must be down.

banie01

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Will the legion offer some of the funds towards the families of civilians murdered by the British army? Not just in the North but elsewhere where the BA murdered civilians.

Or offer support for the families of those innocent victims of state sanctioned military operations?
Will they support the prosecution of Soldier F and other soldiers accused of similar?

If using the symbols of an oppressive regime to show support for the oppressed are a new de riguer.
May I propose that we appropriate those nice little 30's-40's enamelled swastika badges, and repurpose them as Holocaust memorial badges?



How could that possibly be poor in taste like?

Niallof9

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/08/poppy-last-time-remembrance-harry-leslie-smith

Your Face

The Guardian reads like a student paper.

_Brian

Nope.
It’s widely know as a symbol of British military remembrance and celebration of their actions.

Dressing it up and tagging on other stuff won’t take away from its primary function.

The green one is just as ridiculous

kowloon

A wise man once told me 'flowers are gay'.

sbsquarepants

Treppen wrote: »

Will this appease people who are anxious about the Poppy promoting the atrocities up the North?

It includes civilians who were killed now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/15/red-poppy-used-remember-civilian-victims-for-first-time

So the poppy will now represent the the people killed on bloody sunday and the fallen members of the army who killed them?
Of course, all is forgiven, where can i buy these new and improved poppies?

I like puppies though

blinding

Will it include all the People killed by Britain ?

Richard Hillman

I thought we were getting an LBGTQXYX Rainbow Poppy

Donnielighto

The public view on what the poppy represents won't change anytime soon, this might change it but it would take a few years even if it did. If they really wanted it to represent something else they'd change the flower and start from scratch.

This is pandering and meaningless, the UK public will correctly see it as remembering the BA and that's all.

ohnonotgmail

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I thought we were getting an LBGTQXYX Rainbow Poppy

No they are only to remember members of 3 Para Mortar Platoon.

Donnielighto

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I thought we were getting an LBGTQXYX Rainbow Poppy

The XYX, what does that stand for?

Church on Tuesday

whisky_galore wrote: »

That hardy perennial, the Poppy thread.
Uff, past caring at this stage.

You know it's winter when it comes around though.

Something almost reassuring about it. Like a warm embrace or pulling on your favorite jumper in the biting cold weather.

Marcos

Doesn't matter, whatever way they try to dress it up. they still won't get James McLean to wear one.

Treppen

Your Face wrote: »

Numbers must be down.

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

Plumbthedepths

Treppen wrote: »

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

Matured? What a condescending comment. The Poppy still predominantly is associated with benefiting the British legion an organisation devoted to helping former British soldiers several of whom murdered innocent civilians in the north and elsewhere. A few cuddly feely press releases won't change the facts.

FrancieBrady

Treppen wrote: »

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

The British Legion have finally accepted that honouring all British soldiers is untenable and it is the Irish who may have 'matured'? :D:D

end of the road

Treppen wrote: »

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

the irish matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is almost 100 years ago, and as what it represents changed, we took that into account.
it is a disgusting symbol that has no place in this country, it represents those who murdered irish people in cold blood on behalf of the british state. nothing or nobody can change what it is or represents.

Edgware

Easter Lily, Spanish students on the buses, Poppy Month, Bogus trips to Lapland.
Its a disgrace Joe the way the year goes

Couldn't give a fack mate

riffmongous

I wonder will those who decried the white poppy refuse to buy this one now? Will there be people wearing this poppy at the marches in support of Soldier F??

MrAbyss

Always gave me the creeps (looks like a bullet hole) and south of Ireland people who wore it were always **** talking about something called 'the fallen' in a fake, dramatic tone.

corner of hells

MrAbyss wrote: »

Always gave me the creeps (looks like a bullet hole) and south of Ireland people who wore it were always **** talking about something called 'the fallen' in a fake, dramatic tone.

Easy there , you're new round these parts.

Give a few more posts and we'll see posters apocalyptic with rage posting from both points of view.

lawred2

Treppen wrote: »

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

Matured? lol

That's some cheap bait you've got there.

Treppen

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Matured? What a condescending comment. The Poppy still predominantly is associated with benefiting the British legion an organisation devoted to helping former British soldiers several of whom murdered innocent civilians in the north and elsewhere. A few cuddly feely press releases won't change the facts.

In fairness though if it weren't for the Brits (including Irish who fought) we'd be under a different type of Europe thanks to Hitler.

And ya, soldiers did horrible things... The same way Irish soldiers did horrible things to 'the natives' when they were on peace keeping missions... Only just a few years ago. Didn't mean the whole Army are bad, or the peace keeping mission was bad.

False Prophet

Treppen wrote: »

In fairness though if it weren't for the Brits (including Irish who fought) we'd be under a different type of Europe thanks to Hitler.

And ya, soldiers did horrible things... The same way Irish soldiers did horrible things to 'the natives' when they were on peace keeping missions... Only just a few years ago. Didn't mean the whole Army are bad, or the peace keeping mission was bad.

It was the Russians that beat the Germans not the Brits, and then the Americans that prevented the russians invading the rest of europe.
The brits only cared about its empire, why Churchill wasted so much resources in Africa.

end of the road

Treppen wrote: »

In fairness though if it weren't for the Brits (including Irish who fought) we'd be under a different type of Europe thanks to Hitler.

And ya, soldiers did horrible things... The same way Irish soldiers did horrible things to 'the natives' when they were on peace keeping missions... Only just a few years ago. Didn't mean the whole Army are bad, or the peace keeping mission was bad.

all of that is ultimately irrelevant. world war 2 was over 70 years ago, and even then britain was only 1 part of it. they weren't even really responsible for hitler being defeated.

James Brown

Let anyone who wants to buy it, buy it. Trying to get decent folk on board is pointless. It is what it is. What's next LGBTQ rainbow themed swastikas?

Plumbthedepths

Treppen wrote: »

In fairness though if it weren't for the Brits (including Irish who fought) we'd be under a different type of Europe thanks to Hitler.
BS, if it weren't for the Soviets the British were f**ked.
And ya, soldiers did horrible things... The same way Irish soldiers did horrible things to 'the natives' when they were on peace keeping missions... Only just a few years ago. Didn't mean the whole Army are bad, or the peace keeping mission was bad.

You'll have to refresh my memory who were the civilians the Irish army murdered?

Quantum Erasure

lawred2 wrote: »

Matured? lol

That's some cheap bait you've got there.

and yet...

Capt'n Midnight

The Peace Pledge Union's White Poppy has been around since 1933.

alchemist33

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the annual poppy threads start earlier and earlier every year.

And the posters seem younger. Must be getting old

end of the road

Treppen wrote: »

Child abuse

and i would bet the rifraff who committed such child abuse were dealt with. out on their arse, off to jail, and everyone informed that they are a disgrace to the army and to the irish people.
unlike the british ones who murdered civilians in cold blood, who were protected and rewarded and hailed as heroes.
absolutely disgusting and shameful to compare the irish army to them. at least the irish army take responsibility when criminality happens within it.

suicide_circus

"more inclusive" = marketing

FrancieBrady

Treppen wrote: »

In fairness though if it weren't for the Brits (including Irish who fought) we'd be under a different type of Europe thanks to Hitler.

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I thought Hitler beat the British back into Britain to await significant others to come to the rescue of Europe?

Your Face

Treppen wrote: »

Or maybe the Irish have matured and accepted the Poppy for what it is , rather than being an anti-Irish thing.

You must have quoted my post by mistake as your post has nothing to do with mine.

ohnonotgmail

alchemist33 wrote: »

And the posters seem younger. Must be getting old

I remember when all this was just fields.

sligojoek

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I remember when all this was just fields.

Poppy fields??

blinding

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I thought Hitler beat the British back into Britain to await significant others to come to the rescue of Europe?

Russian Blood and American Money were probably the two most significant assets in beating the Germans .

American Equipment ( given to the Russians ) especially Trucks were hugely important in beating the Germans .

Edgware

False Prophet wrote: »

It was the Russians that beat the Germans not the Brits, and then the Americans that prevented the russians invading the rest of europe.
The brits only cared about its empire, why Churchill wasted so much resources in Africa.

How many Russians died on Normandy beach?
Get a history book and dont be relying on your anti British bull****