Young Irish people speaking with American accents

Bobblehats

They can take their elocution but me accentuate this I could’nt give a big deep; gutteral duurty sh!te! Ahhhr I bet that shivered your timbers.

yerwanthere123

I've genuinely never come across this ever.

James Brown

The accents are sad but using all the terminology is worse, or in the Dublin, worser

dxhound2005

The word News has always been pronounced to rhyme with Booze in America, due to the pronunciation brought over from England. That pronunciation is still found in parts of England. Since then the word has changed in standard British English to rhyme with Mews. The American (originally English) pronunciation is coming back into use in Britain and Ireland, which is causing some people here to complain.

But for some reason the Mews pronunciation is now being used by some of the younger generation in America. It's a funny old world.

Airyfairy12

It can be an indication of Autism in some people, people with autism often speak in American accents.

Tv is likely also to blame, my brother's in his early twenties and sometimes slips into an american accent when saying certain words, its irritating to listen to but he constantly watches American movies, tv shows and plays American computer games.

I dont know why, it must be an easy accent to fall into, like you never hear people falling into a french or Australian or English accent, its always American.

dxhound2005

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It can be an indication of Autism in some people, people with autism often speak in American accents.

Tv is likely also to blame, my brother's in his early twenties and sometimes slips into an american accent when saying certain words, its irritating to listen to but he constantly watches American movies, tv shows and plays American computer games.

I dont know why, it must be an easy accent to fall into, like you never hear people falling into a french or Australian or English accent, its always American.

People complain about G Mac's accent. But because a lot of the American accent comes from the Ulster Scots immigrants, it is completely natural. NI people can mimic an American accent very easily.

Wibbs

the beer revolu wrote: »

It's been going on for around 20 years.

Also, I've called my mother mom/mum interchangeably since I started talking. I'm from Cork.

Yeah, I'd have zeroed it into around the late 90's when it came along.

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I've genuinely never come across this ever.

I know someone who said similar when a few of my friends were out one night. The thing is this particular guy's daughter has the mid atlantic thing going on and he genuinely can't seem to hear it, though his wife can. Then again he has no great ear for accents at least in recognition of them, but he could readily pick them up and a few years in London had left some flavour. I'd be the complete opposite, can't mimic another accent to save my life(I'd be pure sh1te as a spy ), but can very much hear the differences in others*.

Even with American accents I can locate many of them geographically and they're quite distinct to me, even if they're flattened by an internal move in the country. Some non American actors doing the accent can throw me. EG the show House. Huge Laurie was brilliant in a brilliantly written drama, but his accent grated the hell out of my ear holes. went right through me at times. It sounded so fake, yet Americans seem to have praised it as "authentic". and some were apparently shocked he was an Englishman. Ditto with the British lad Andrew Lincoln who was in the Walking Dead. It sounded to me like a bad caricature of a "Southern" accent, but again US audiences seemed surprised to hear his real accent.





*My dad was the same, so maybe I got it from him. He lived in the US for years before he met the Ma(tm) but retained his Dublin accent with no hint of an American twang. Though the influence came out in other ways because he'd say "station wagon" rather than "estate" for a car and "elevator" instead of "lift", but with his original accent.

Ipso

Wibbs wrote: »

*My dad was the same, so maybe I got it from him. He lived in the US for years before he met the Ma(tm) but retained his Dublin accent with no hint of an American twang. Though the influence came out in other ways because he'd say "station wagon" rather than "estate" for a car and "elevator" instead of "lift", but with his original accent.

Sometimes it's just easier to use the different terminology, saves constant clarification.
It pains me to have to use words like store (yet no one goes storing to the store, it's still shopping) or trash.

Airyfairy12

dxhound2005 wrote: »

People complain about G Mac's accent. But because a lot of the American accent comes from the Ulster Scots immigrants, it is completely natural. NI people can mimic an American accent very easily.

Why then isnt the Australian accent natural and easily mimicked too? considering most of Australian people can trace their origins back to Irish, Scots and English people.

Ipso

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Why then isnt the Australian accent natural and easily mimicked too? considering most of Australian people can trace their origins back to Irish, Scots and English people.

I wonder what can cause accents, I remember someone saying it could be landscape/environment and that it seemed like Australians were almost in a struggle with the heat when talking.

dxhound2005

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Why then isnt the Australian accent natural and easily mimicked too? considering most of Australian people can trace their origins back to Irish, Scots and English people.

It is. Anyone from here can do a convincing g'day cobber. Accents like Scouse and Cockney also lend themselves to easy mimicking, due to big cities being a mixture of incomers. Scouse has something in common with Dublinese.

rn

Interviewed a young lad once who was born in balinasloe, lived and schooled all his life in Athlone, including third level. He spoke with a distinct American accent. It was strange. I put it down to possibly American parents and a limited, US based television experience.

Bobblehats

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Why then isnt the Australian accent natural and easily mimicked too? considering most of Australian people can trace their origins back to Irish, Scots and English people.

That’d be one of my go-to accents as I feel can identify with the proper old school bogan but then I don’t type it nearly as well as I speak it?

Cockney, and Northumbrian in particular are party pieces that seem to go down well as it happens but textually speaking, for ole times sake ah dooo like to fall back on a real ole time southern draaaawl. Not unlike that there fellur from the saloon scene in father ted but Ugandan is proving little more difficult for me

dxhound2005

Just by coincidence I was watching this last night, and the guy has a real Southern accent. Just a minute or two is enough to get the gist.

Airyfairy12

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It is. Anyone from here can do a convincing g'day cobber. Accents like Scouse and Cockney also lend themselves to easy mimicking, due to big cities being a mixture of incomers. Scouse has something in common with Dublinese.

I cant.

Besides the point, I wasnt talking about people who are good at accents, its not just mimicking, its slipping into them without noticing, people who suddenly start talking like theyre from LA without even trying.

Just heard my brother use the word 'fall' instead of Autumn when talking to his friend about an hour ago. :mad:

Yer Da sells Avon

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Oh there are so many Irish accents that are worse than a us accent. So so many.

Arguably, but the 'US accent' I have in mind is a weird nondescript thing, not local to any particular part of America, yet oddly common in parts of south Dublin.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

tonycascarino wrote: »

Not an explanation at all. The vast majority of us grew up watching loads of American & British TV shows yet none of us picked up the accents. It is more to do with them thinking that speaking with an American accent will make them sound more important. It is all fake.

I agree. My mother watches loads of British soaps, but she doesn't go around talking like somebody off Coronation Street. It's young people thinking they sound cool and interesting, particularly the ones who do the disingenuous 'oh I've always spoken like this. I don't really know why'.

No love, if you're born and bred in Ireland and have never spent more than a fortnight's holiday in the States then any American accent has been deliberately adopted.

ToddyDoody

Its a lot easier to imitate someone than being yourself.

Your Face

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Its a lot easier to imitate someone than being yourself.

Gosh you're right
Gee, thanks Mr Brady.

ToddyDoody

Your Face wrote: »

Gosh you're right
Gee, thanks Mr Brady.

I take it you don't like that one.

8-10

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Just heard my brother use the word 'fall' instead of Autumn when talking to his friend about an hour ago. :mad:

I don't see what's wrong with that as long as people understand the context of what you're saying

topper75

tonycascarino wrote: »

. It is more to do with them thinking that speaking with an American accent will make them sound more important. It is all fake.

When some Irish person speaks to me in earnest and uses an American accent, I'm not thinking "This person is really important".

I'm usually thinking "This person is really impressionable". That is often good to know .

Mugser

Two young lads who are acquaintances of one of my youngest..
One speaks like he's spent all his life in the US, even uses words like 'side-walk' and 'car-lot'.. having never spent a minute there! That's bad enough, but the other little sh1t speaks with as thick a Dublin accent as your likely to encounter, even down to the old colloquial greeting of 'Story bud?' instead of 'hello' or 'how'ya?' :mad::mad:
We're in the Waterford!

take everything

Ipso wrote: »

Totally

Eh..it's Todally.

biko

We should actively encourage the eradication of the Dublin accent.

Bigbagofcans

biko wrote: »

We should actively encourage the eradication of the Dublin accent.

Ah here, will ya leave it ou'. Leave it bleedin' out.

rossie1977

It might sound American but it isn't.

I believed for a long while one of my friends talked in an American accent but when we were over in the States she sounded Irish next to real Americans.

I myself have been told in India and South Africa I sound American (it was actually quite difficult to convince people I wasn't American). When I am in the States I have been told I talk way to fast and I can't be understood.

joeguevara

I am not saying it is what is happening in the OP but speaking in an American accent is a common trait of people with ASD and indeed with people that appear on the spectrum.

https://www2.gov.scot/Publications/2009/07/06111319/16

"There may be idiosyncrasies in the way individuals with spoken language talk. Such differences can include speaking in a monotonous tone. There may also be difficulties with the rhythm, pitch and intonation of speech. Many children on the spectrum speak with an accent that differs from their local accent; this is usually an American accent."

Oasis1974

rn wrote: »

Interviewed a young lad once who was born in balinasloe, lived and schooled all his life in Athlone, including third level. He spoke with a distinct American accent. It was strange. I put it down to possibly American parents and a limited, US based television experience.

Why not have just asked him if you have lived in Ireland all your life and speak like a yank then your a bit of a spoofer.

tylercheribini

nthclare wrote: »

Ahhh the mid Atlantic accent's

It has definitely shifted more towards the Boston end of the Atlantic now, cultural imperialism amok.

Suckit

If you think the 'American' Irish accents are bad... wait until you get a load of the 'Vocal Fry'... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Paris Hilton etc.. were bad and annoying with their shyte 'English' American accent, (that Ironically is the accent base for the 'American' Irish accent).
But this vocal fry is the worst of the lot of them. Where they sound like they are trying to slow down the way that they speak and croak intheir sentences..
Ugh. F*cking ugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8mcBdBL-t0

dxhound2005

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

I cant.

Besides the point, I wasnt talking about people who are good at accents, its not just mimicking, its slipping into them without noticing, people who suddenly start talking like theyre from LA without even trying.

Just heard my brother use the word 'fall' instead of Autumn when talking to his friend about an hour ago. :mad:

Did he say Fall with an American accent?

dxhound2005

When I was in New York an American thought my accent was Australian.

tylercheribini

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Did he say Fall with an American accent?

We have also gladly adopted the yanks "softening of language" too. Nobody says somebody has died anymore, "passed, "lost" etc

Omackeral

Suckit wrote: »

Where they sound like they are trying to slow down the way that they speak and croak intheir sentences..
Ugh. F*cking ugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8mcBdBL-t0

Sounds like a retarded frog in discomfort.

Niallof9

My daughter also has one. She's eleven.

Its not a concious decision ffs, its a cultural osmosis thing for some. Youtube, netflix,ticktock, instagram videos.

No eleven year old conciously makes the choice. She hangs out with other girls who also speak like this. Some have a different parent from another country. South Africa, Romania, USA, D4 and so on.

Whats the difference in a real thick inner city accent? the same thing happens with the associations between all of the kids there. There's far more mcgreogrs these days then there is mr brennan or whatever.

Nobody apart from a few people decide on what their accent will be consciously at least if they aren't on tv or politics, performing arts that type of thing. I know my daughter didn't and i asked her about it.

I work with a bunch of scandinavians, where half of them have a yank accent. Learned by US tv and internet.

Newsflash this is globalisation and the unrelenting advance of 24 hour internet life.

Funnily enough its country people too. Live with a Cork woman who has a d4 accent and listen to kids like Aron Connolly and Adam Idah they have Dublin twangs..

I don't get the irritation myself at least when i stop and think about it. It used to but it makes sense.

mariaalice

Why does it irritate people? so much I would class it as a minor issue I have relatives that speak like that one that always makes me laugh a bit are a teenage brother and sister one with a D4 type accent and one with a more rural GAA type accent in that case I would think its the one with the rural GAA accent thats making the effort to be different as all around are D4 accents.

Omackeral

Niallof9 wrote: »

Some have a different parent from another country. South Africa, Romania, USA, D4 and so on.

I laughed.

tylercheribini

It irks me so because Americans are generally insufferable boils on the arse of humanity(and thats just my relatives:D:D:D). If we are going to ape a culture cant it at least be the Greco-Roman's. ;););)

c68zapdsm5i1ru

mariaalice wrote: »

Why does it irritate people? so much I would class it as a minor issue I have relatives that speak like that one that always makes me laugh a bit are a teenage brother and sister one with a D4 type accent and one with a more rural GAA type accent in that case I would think its the one with the rural GAA accent thats making the effort to be different as all around are D4 accents.

I suppose for the same reason that the Dawrt accent irritated people, or put on inner city Dublin accents by people brought up in Blackrock because they thought it made them sound edgy.

It just comes across as fake and annoying.

friendlyfun

Would probably prefer it to most Dublin accents. Some of them are just so grating to listen to.

Bobblehats

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