Road infrastructure discussion

irishgeo

naughto wrote: »

Are they not going to knock them houses

doesnt look like it, i can see access roads to both the houses

http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PC5-113.pdf

Officer Giggles

irishgeo wrote: »

doesnt look like it, i can see access roads to both the houses

http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PC5-113.pdf

One of the houses looks deserted so I'd say that could be knocked

UsBus

irishgeo wrote: »

Spotted that. Going to be a tight fit around the houses.

Some of those houses are going to be engulfed by this. Hopefully construction around there is carried out swiftly, a lot of upheaval for those residents

irishgeo

UsBus wrote: »

Some of those houses are going to be engulfed by this. Hopefully construction around there is carried out swiftly, a lot of upheaval for those residents

The roadworks and traffic jams will be a nightmare too.

CtrlAltDelete

irishgeo wrote: »

doesnt look like it, i can see access roads to both the houses

http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PC5-113.pdf

Reading the document there's a CPO on 1 of them and the other seems like it will be surviving as it's not included. Big change for the residents in that house.

PARlance

irishgeo wrote: »

doesnt look like it, i can see access roads to both the houses

http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PC5-113.pdf

3 houses in total.
Assuming your driving from Wesport on the new road:
1. The new road goes directly through one house. It's hard to see on map as the road covers it. (This house has been boarded up for some time)
2. The left hand side neighbours house. People still living the but it is clearly in the CPO zone.
3. There's a smaller house (also boarded up for some time) to the right hand side, that is also in the CPO zone.

UsBus

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

Reading the document there's a CPO on 1 of them and the other seems like it will be surviving as it's not included. Big change for the residents in that house.

I looked at that on the map alright. I wonder were both given the choice ..? The house that is staying will be surrounded by a road junction. It will have some effect on the value of the property..

irishgeo

UsBus wrote: »

I looked at that on the map alright. I wonder were both given the choice ..? The house that is staying will be surrounded by a road junction. It will have some effect on the value of the property..

It might be bought but just letting an elderly resident stay for a while and then knock it.

yew_tree

Will you be able to get on the new road from the belcarra rd that comes in by the golf course?

Also what sort of junctions will be there and at breaffy and ballinrobe roads? Flyovers will on ramp or roundabouts ?

Dudda

yew_tree wrote: »

Will you be able to get on the new road from the belcarra rd that comes in by the golf course?

Also what sort of junctions will be there and at breaffy and ballinrobe roads? Flyovers will on ramp or roundabouts ?

Ballinrobe Road - Flyover with ramps
Belcarra Road - no access
Breaffy Road - Flyover with ramps

You can view the earlier planning drawings at the below link for around Castlebar:
http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/N5-EIS-Vol1-Fig-2.10-to-2.18.pdf

This link has the drawings for over near Westport:
http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/N5-EIS-Vol1-Fig-2.1-to-2.9.pdf

Just to note that the drawings near Turlough (Fig 2.17 and Fig 2.18) aren't what's going to be built due to the An Bord Pleanála condition.

irishgeo

Dudda wrote: »

Ballinrobe Road - Flyover with ramps
Belcarra Road - no access
Breaffy Road - Flyover with ramps

You can view the earlier planning drawings at the below link for around Castlebar:
http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/N5-EIS-Vol1-Fig-2.10-to-2.18.pdf

This link has the drawings for over near Westport:
http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/N5-EIS-Vol1-Fig-2.1-to-2.9.pdf

Just to note that the drawings near Turlough (Fig 2.17 and Fig 2.18) aren't what's going to be built due to the An Bord Pleanála condition.

Never copped Allergan was getting it's own access road.

biko

Bunch of road posts brought over from New Businesses thread

naughto

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058053936/1/#post112534642

yop

naughto wrote: »

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058053936/1/#post112534642

Thats thejournal.ie again. They were at it on Facebook maybe a month ago.
Its quite pathetic really why they have singled out this road in the West considering it bring thousands of them to their holiday homes weekly.

Regardless, if they did any actual investigation they'd see why its needed. Not a dual carraige way granted, but the road is needed. I've already explained on this thread that the other Belmullet and Ballina roads need to be addressed equally so not starting a "our part of Mayo is better than yours" but I feel it laughable that a Dublin based media "The Sun" outlet wants to chase a project gone 70m quid when just down the road is the Childrens Hospital......

Diggers are in, work has started and in 2 years they will be travelling it and loving it when they go visit Westport, Achill etc on their breaks away from the M50 car park and sardines life.

oscarBravo

yop wrote: »

Not a dual carraige way granted, but the road is needed.

If they had built a single carriageway, that would have been an epic waste of money. It would have cost almost the same, with only marginal improvements in capacity and safety. The Ballaghaderreen bypass is a case in point: I've lost count of the number of times I've watched buses and 40-foot trucks carrying out risky overtaking maneuvers.

We need to stop frigging around with single carriageways on which it's all but impossible to overtake safely.

But yeah, the whole "is it the best use of public money?" populist rabble-rousing is pretty pathetic. There's no meaningful answer to the question, ergo it's a stupid question. Did they think they were going to kick off a measured and objective discussion on the topic? It's not exactly going to be a shock to the system that people who won't directly benefit from the road think that the money could be better spent elsewhere.

marno21

In the past, the Westport-Castlebar scheme would have been built as a wide single carriageway (like the N5 Charlestown bypass).

Wide single carriageways are 15m wide and have 2 lanes. The proposed Westport-Turlough scheme is 16.5m wide and will have 4 lanes. For 10% extra land take and road width, there is 2 extra lanes. It's an absolute no brainer.

HBC08

This road is badly needed.The fact that it is ridiculously over priced is just a fact of modern Ireland.If this road is pulled that will mean that funding will never be seen in the West.
The contracts are signed and work has begun (including my neighbours whose house was CPOd about 4 years ago)
Contractors will go through the courts for the price of it anyway so might aswell plough on now.
Saoirse McHugh feiced her election campaign saying she would oppose it .

Well folks, get ready for 2 years of sitting at red lights, stop go's and damaged shocks from unmarked road ramps. Let's hope it's worth it.

Westernyelp

Deleted User wrote:

Well folks, get ready for 2 years of sitting at red lights, stop go's and damaged shocks from unmarked road ramps. Let's hope it's worth it.

I was stopped on the N5 for 15 mins today. Hope the traffic management plan is a good one

DumbBrunette

Due to bypass works??

Westernyelp wrote: »

I was stopped on the N5 for 15 mins today. Hope the traffic management plan is a good one

Westernyelp

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Due to bypass works??

Yes. Machines clearing Trees and hedges where the new road meets the old (new) road

PARlance

Going to be some stressed people getting to work this morning. Traffic jam from kilkenny cross roadworks (new road) backed up all the way past Breaffy pitch.

CtrlAltDelete

PARlance wrote: »

Going to be some stressed people getting to work this morning. Traffic jam from kilkenny cross roadworks (new road) backed up all the way past Breaffy pitch.

Sounds like an average morning for anyone commuting to Galway via the Curragh Line.

Officer Giggles

PARlance wrote: »

Going to be some stressed people getting to work this morning. Traffic jam from kilkenny cross roadworks (new road) backed up all the way past Breaffy pitch.

it was a joke because it was unnecessarily bad. It appears as if they have the timers on the lights set for the same length of time in both directions even though the traffic heading out of the town is a fraction of that heading in

muddle84

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

Sounds like an average morning for anyone commuting to Galway via the Curragh Line.

Sounds like a way better than average morning on the Curraghline

CtrlAltDelete

Autonomous vehicles and working from either home or nucleus sites will be the future.. potentially fast tracked by the Covid-19. This whole thing could question public infrastructure requirements, necessities and planning.

UsBus

PARlance wrote: »

Going to be some stressed people getting to work this morning. Traffic jam from kilkenny cross roadworks (new road) backed up all the way past Breaffy pitch.

They also have some needless traffic lights on the way out of Castlebar at the compound. No work going on yesterday evening but cones still left out and traffic lights. Still the same this morning

recyclebin

UsBus wrote: »

They also have some needless traffic lights on the way out of Castlebar at the compound. No work going on yesterday evening but cones still left out and traffic lights. Still the same this morning

For some reason they are using concrete to cover something crossing the road so the road was down to one lane for the concrete to set.

naughto

recyclebin wrote: »

For some reason they are using concrete to cover something crossing the road so the road was down to one lane for the concrete to set.

They have to dig out the crossings then fill them in with concrete to bring up the level of the road then take out the concrete when finished.
It's to do with the trucks damaging the road that's going in if that makes since

muddle84

recyclebin wrote: »

For some reason they are using concrete to cover something crossing the road so the road was down to one lane for the concrete to set.

It's a road crossing for all the dumpers and plant that will be crossing there. Tarmac would be tore apart!