South Park WW ROLE MADNESS - Game Thread

Senan WW

Regan WW wrote: »

So Im not a wolf before 9 to cover your last minute vote switch but now I am, fierce sneaky methinks

Things evolve!

You were due to be lynched and the votes were rigged and you didn't get lynched

If a wolf rigged the votes then you're definitely a wolf, they were saving you

If a villager rigged the vote then you could be village or wolf

Regan WW

Senan WW wrote: »

Things evolve!

You were due to be lynched and the votes were rigged and you didn't get lynched

If a wolf rigged the votes then you're definitely a wolf, they were saving you

If a villager rigged the vote then you could be village or wolf

or just village but that doesnt suit your narrative

Shady fierce shady

Senan WW

Regan WW wrote: »

Well it sounds like a wolf role cos you want it to as it implicates me and covers up your last minute vote change when you said it was self preservation and that I wasnt wolfie.

It could equally be a village role as the vote manipulator wants to see how my role could help village and is giving it a chance

It definitely could be


I gave the reasons for my last minute change, was very upfront about it
If you don't want to believe me then thats your choice

Senan WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Senan is looking queer hairy tonight i think ill be ready to start voting tomorrow

I'd say you or some of your wolf buddies will make sure I don't make it to that vote

I'm off to bed too

Eva WW

Regan WW wrote: »

shooting people maybe

That's the nature of the game. I wouldn't classify that as us being in trouble.

Unless you think the Odd Vig is bad?

Fiona WW

Regan WW wrote: »

Because who ever saved me is curious about my role and probably realises Im not a wolf and figures it could benefit village but seeing how things have gone so far, ill probably just be running a sauna

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

What is your role? I

Wendy WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

gooonight everyone

Regan WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

What is your role? I

Well apparently Ive forgotten but will remember tomorrow is all I know

Regan WW

Eva WW wrote: »

That's the nature of the game. I wouldn't classify that as us being in trouble.

Unless you think the Odd Vig is bad?

I thought that is what you were implying by bringing it up originally

Wendy WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Ah thanks for the update phil

Funniest post to date.
Congrats.

Eva WW

Regan WW wrote: »

I thought that is what you were implying by bringing it up originally

No.

Honestly, my guess right now is that there’s a possibility roles and alignments were assigned independently of each other. (with the possible exception of the Jester).

When people are dying, their roles are revealed, and then their alignment is hidden behind a spoiler tag. Meaning it’s possible to imply learning a role First doesn’t spoil the alignment.

This means the OddVig could be good or bad. If or when he comes out, he will have to be judged on the merit of his actions, NOT simply on the fact he goes unchallenged in any role claim.

For instance, we know that Desmond today got shot shortly after revealing he had the power to grant wishes (despite the story he spun). Which means the wolves have a vig of some sort, yeah?

Regan WW

Eva WW wrote: »

No.

Honestly, my guess right now is that there’s a possibility roles and alignments were assigned independently of each other. (with the possible exception of the Jester).

When people are dying, their roles are revealed, and then their alignment is hidden behind a spoiler tag. Meaning it’s possible to imply learning a role First doesn’t spoil the alignment.

This means the OddVig could be good or bad. If or when he comes out, he will have to be judged on the merit of his actions, NOT simply on the fact he goes unchallenged in any role claim.

For instance, we know that Desmond today got shot shortly after revealing he had the power to grant wishes (despite the story he spun). Which means the wolves have a vig of some sort, yeah?

Ahhh got it thanks for that explanation

Winifred WW

Wolves have to have some decent roles or the game would be way unbalanced.

Lucy WW

Senan WW wrote: »

Things evolve!

You were due to be lynched and the votes were rigged and you didn't get lynched

If a wolf rigged the votes then you're definitely a wolf, they were saving you

If a villager rigged the vote then you could be village or wolf

There is however third option

Wolves think we can lynch her tomorrow. So they can change votes today, kill another goodie while we waste time on her tomorrow. Could be possible she is a set up villager or a doomed wolf.

Fiona WW

Eva WW wrote: »

No.

Honestly, my guess right now is that there’s a possibility roles and alignments were assigned independently of each other. (with the possible exception of the Jester).

When people are dying, their roles are revealed, and then their alignment is hidden behind a spoiler tag. Meaning it’s possible to imply learning a role First doesn’t spoil the alignment.

This means the OddVig could be good or bad. If or when he comes out, he will have to be judged on the merit of his actions, NOT simply on the fact he goes unchallenged in any role claim.

For instance, we know that Desmond today got shot shortly after revealing he had the power to grant wishes (despite the story he spun). Which means the wolves have a vig of some sort, yeah?

You are definitely correct in the roles not being closely related to the alignment

Liam WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

You are definitely correct in the roles not being closely related to the alignment

It says it in the OP in bold writing

Emily WW

Evening all.

Was out of action there for the evening.

Reading through Brendans catch up felt like watching momento! But I think he made some good points.

I need to get to bed but will do a proper round up of my thoughts from this evening tomorrow.

One thing is for sure and that’s that the village had an awful day and we need to nail a wolf tomorrow

Night night

Liam WW

Senan WW wrote: »

Could also have been the vig, I'll be p!ssed if it was, they should be holding their powder dry until the have more info

Odd you want vigs to hold dry for more info but you are losing your **** over no lynches.

This is a contradiction in your logic, and another black mark against you.

Fiona WW

Emily WW wrote: »

Evening all.

Was out of action there for the evening.

Reading through Brendans catch up felt like watching momento! But I think he made some good points.

I need to get to bed but will do a proper round up of my thoughts from this evening tomorrow.

One thing is for sure and that’s that the village had an awful day and we need to nail a wolf tomorrow

Night night

My gut is telling me this is extremely wolfy

Frank WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

My gut is telling me this is extremely wolfy

It would definitely give added weight to their being at least one wolf on Steve out of gertrude Patrick and emily

Liam WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

Btw, I cant use the peek myself, I can only grant the wish to another player

Im guessing this is what got Des shot in the end

Clodagh WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Im guessing this is what got Des shot in the end

If true then does that mean there's a wolf with a gun?

Clodagh WW

Clodagh WW wrote: »

If true then does that mean there's a wolf with a gun?

Or could we be thinking an unknown kill team as well as a jester and wolves to figure out?

Liam WW

Senan snd winifred would be my too biggest suspects after a catch up

Regan WW

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 1,525
User Name Posts
Lucy WW 122
Senan WW 114
Wendy WW 107
Regan WW 105
Henry WW 78
Isla WW 68
Patrick WW 66
Eva WW 65
Brendan WW 63
Vernon WW 60
Orla WW 57
Winifred WW 48
Liam WW 48
Derry WW 46
Conor WW 43
Phil WW 43
Desmond WW 41
Steve WW 40
Doris WW 35
Emily WW 33
Clodagh WW 32
Frank WW 30
Oisin WW 28
Holly WW 22
Barbara WW 20
Ewan WW 19
Fiona WW 19
Gertrude WW 17
Angus WW 14
Gabriel WW 13
Abigail WW 11

Isla WW

Regan repeating his getting hi sctick made me think Jester but so did Wendy openly trying to get a wagon going on someone who had been peeked good (we don't know how good the peeker is however).


I feel like one of the heeled poisoned people could be bad. A goodie would have announced they would be heeling someone. Nobody said anything about anyone heeling anyone so im leaning it a wolf action.


Similarily I think being able to completely change who the village votes for is a big power. I would guess a 1 time one. If so a villager is now essentially a NRV having used this they should probably admit it was them. If that isn't the case I am likely to think a wolf had that role and of course question why a wolf would save Regan


Gab was someone who has probably already shot someone given, even night vig role so that can explain one of the deaths prior to their own.
Vig is also a big role and if everyone has a role maybe big roles like that are split. Could be even & odd night Seers etc too

Eva wrote:

Honestly, my guess right now is that there’s a possibility roles and alignments were assigned independently of each other. (with the possible exception of the Jester).

I must have said on thread a good few times now that roles do not equal good/bad as per the OP and you know Satan was good. Really odd for players to have been still acting as if this was the case up until now.


So as of today i'm thinking


Regan, Derry, Liam need more looking into as potential wolves, maybe Eva too. Wendy I am weary of potentially being a Jester but I don't have her firmly in team Village anyway.


Someone asked me before (read back through so much only fully caught up now) why patrick was one of the names I originally put forward (when nobody was putting forward any name but their own) and it was simply because people made some villagery moves before then but at that point I read the wolves as Jester hunting and having voted for Steve made him and Emily iirc less likely to be wolves imo. He was the more active out of those two.

Isla WW

Didn't mention Lucy but I guess she is kind of tied to Derry now. Peeked good so im not going there yet but Derry if bad would lie if Lucy was a wolf. If Lucy isn't munched (wolves thinking she is the Jester) then im presuming good unless Derry is a wolf and i'd look at him first

Holly WW

Isla WW wrote: »

Didn't mention Lucy but I guess she is kind of tied to Derry now. Peeked good so im not going there yet but Derry if bad would lie if Lucy was a wolf. If Lucy isn't munched (wolves thinking she is the Jester) then im presuming good unless Derry is a wolf and i'd look at him first

Why wouldn't wolves munch Lucy if she was the jester (don't think she is btw)? Jester needs to get lynched to win, munching her if she was Jester would give wolves a shot at win.

Isla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Why wouldn't wolves munch Lucy if she was the jester (don't think she is btw)? Jester needs to get lynched to win, munching her if she was Jester would give wolves a shot at win.

I think they would. If she isn't munched she is either good (most likely) or a wolf because she is tied to Derry who peeked her and could still be bad (and if he was surely team unless he's the jester would munch her).


If someone says they cured a poisoned victum and why I am less likely to think one of Derry/Liam is bad. If a person administering a cure stays quiet I would be more likely to think them a wolf who saved a wolf buddy.

Isla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Why wouldn't wolves munch Lucy if she was the jester (don't think she is btw)? Jester needs to get lynched to win, munching her if she was Jester would give wolves a shot at win.

Not as vocal as most so far Holly, who are you suspecting atm? be it as wolf or as Jester?


Do you think either of the poisoned people could be bad?


What of Regan surviving the lynch?


Do you think the people who used powers to save them are more likely bad if they stay silent about their actions?

Wendy WW

Morning folks.

I’m going to make a big push for a Lucy Lynch tonight.



The whole situation is doggy. We don’t know that Derry is village. Still 50% chance she’s wolf and this game has a lot more wolves than normal. Derry was poisoned but now all of a sudden she’s fine and we don’t know how?? Like wtf - sounds like black magic to me. A villager would definitely say they had cured her (and liam obvs).
So let’s stop fluteing around and start winning the game.



How do people feel about a speed day?

Holly WW

Isla WW wrote: »

Not as vocal as most so far Holly, who are you suspecting atm? be it as wolf or as Jester?


Do you think either of the poisoned people could be bad?


What of Regan surviving the lynch?


Do you think the people who used powers to save them are more likely bad if they stay silent about their actions?

I haven't had as much time unlike as others but I'm trying to keep up. I think if one of the poisoned was bad then they likely got the fake poison. If the wolves had the ability to cure then they may have healed the real victim in order to cast doubt on them in which case I'd say Derry was real victim. It's also possible they are both evil and the poison was a goodie.

Regan surviving the lynch was bizarre but actually makes me think they could be good, especially as we lost a good role in exchange. Regan saying they've no power until today may mean if a wolf did the saving they were hoping for a cub role and also throwing a bit of shade on Regan. I don't know if a wolf team is so blatant about saving one of their own as Regan has a big target as a result.

As for people staying silent about their powers if they have used them...honestly I don't know if it indicates good or bad. In previous existences I've seen people being lynched for even admitting having powers so staying quiet might be sensible if people want to live.

All that said, I haven't played in a game like this where everyone has some kind of role and the roles aren't necessarily good/evil. Using powers as a goodie is probably just as likely to hurt the village given the total lack of info that we have.

Maybe today we might gain some information that will help people use their powers better but maybe not - if we have a good seer they may have peeked only goodies or have chosen someone who is already dead. Any info we do get will also need to be taken with a pinch of salt as seer could just as easily be evil.

Well I've just cheered myself right up with that post

Regan WW

Read back to page 29
lot happening
Stand outs are Wendy trying a few times to get votes for Lucy
Senan last minute vote change
Doris and phil appearing fluffing early evening
Few people using rl to justify low posting which is wolf move in past Frank being one
Angus ffa fiona thinks she fluff talks
Brendan thinking Senan seasoned one minute the question to obvious the next
Patrick Senan annoyed by Wendy trying to get votes for Lucy want to shoot her
Vernon scared by eva as he thinks she is wolf. what if he wolf she village
Barabra on a few people interesting sum up #1330
was wendy looking for a lynch is the jester playing a long game

What happened re healing? anything? if one fake poisoned and one poisoned and healed no change so unless we know which is which

So my questions

what happened re healing? Why didnt anyone anounce they healed. I think Derry said he was healed but nothing further Liam didnt anounce anything so far

Wendy sure Lucy off. If Lucy off is Derry off? Ive always mistrusted the peek just because it could be manipulated by wolves

Senans last minute vote change weird as I had 8 votes and he deffo wasnt going anywhere so self preservation odd

Vernon and Eva odd interactions since page 29 agreeing love in then disagreeing maybe Im wrong but one is wolf

Isla WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Morning folks.

I’m going to make a big push for a Lucy Lynch tonight.



The whole situation is doggy. We don’t know that Derry is village. Still 50% chance she’s wolf and this game has a lot more wolves than normal. Derry was poisoned but now all of a sudden she’s fine and we don’t know how?? Like wtf - sounds like black magic to me. A villager would definitely say they had cured her (and liam obvs).
So let’s stop fluteing around and start winning the game.



How do people feel about a speed day?

If you think Lucy could be bad if Derry is bad but otherwise is good wouldn't it make sense to go after Derry first not someone who is only bad if Derry is. Why Lucy (peeked good) before Derry?

Regan WW

Wendy whats a speed day?

Holly WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Morning folks.

I’m going to make a big push for a Lucy Lynch tonight.

Why Lucy over Derry? If Derry is good and got a good alignment for Lucy then that's 2 good.

If Derry is evil and Lucy is evil then that's 2 evil so that would be a decent outcome of her alignment being confirmed.

If Derry is evil and Lucy is good, her flip wont tell us anything other than Derry told the truth but he could do that as evil for village credit.

Isla WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

How do people feel about a speed day?

Wolves, if your looking for a Jester and Wendy isn't on your team, sort it out.

Lucy WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Morning folks.

I’m going to make a big push for a Lucy Lynch tonight.



The whole situation is doggy. We don’t know that Derry is village. Still 50% chance she’s wolf and this game has a lot more wolves than normal. Derry was poisoned but now all of a sudden she’s fine and we don’t know how?? Like wtf - sounds like black magic to me. A villager would definitely say they had cured her (and liam obvs).
So let’s stop fluteing around and start winning the game.



How do people feel about a speed day?

Well Wendigo. I say we all just ingore you, as in nobody even acknowledges your posts or existence until we can get a bullet or posion to kill you.

Isla WW

Regan WW wrote: »

Wendy whats a speed day?

Not a good thing for the village. moves up the days schedule time wise, deadline for lynch etc and leads to people making decisions without a chance to go over it, make mistakes and can lead to confusion.


Usually only requested later in games with less players and stuff going on

Regan WW

Isla WW wrote: »

Not a good thing for the village. moves up the days schedule time wise, deadline for lynch etc and leads to people making decisions without a chance to go over it, make mistakes and can lead to confusion.


Usually only requested later in games with less players and stuff going on

ahhh interesting

Is it done to deliberately cause confusion? If so why would Wendy if village want to cause confusion?

Isla WW

Regan WW wrote: »

ahhh interesting

Is it done to deliberately cause confusion? If so why would Wendy if village want to cause confusion?

Usually its done by mods to speed things up when they have slowed down. If a lynch is inevitable because a wolf has been caught or cos were at the end of the week and need a few more day cycles quicker to end the game.


A player asking for one at this stage, screams Jester to me which is very odd considering we are not in the build up to a lynch but a munch where I assume a Jester would not want to die

Frank WW

Speed days are the worst

Frank WW

Regan still a wolf imo. Acted like a jester hoping to avoid the lynch

Wendy WW

Isla WW wrote: »

If you think Lucy could be bad if Derry is bad but otherwise is good wouldn't it make sense to go after Derry first not someone who is only bad if Derry is. Why Lucy (peeked good) before Derry?

Have you read Lucy’s posts about shooting people and having a hit list?

Wendy WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Why Lucy over Derry? If Derry is good and got a good alignment for Lucy then that's 2 good.

If Derry is evil and Lucy is evil then that's 2 evil so that would be a decent outcome of her alignment being confirmed.

If Derry is evil and Lucy is good, her flip wont tell us anything other than Derry told the truth but he could do that as evil for village credit.

Have you read Lucy’s posts about shooting people and having a hit list?

Regan WW

Still not a wolf. though with low post count you could be as youre hardly here

Wendy WW

Regan WW wrote: »

Wendy whats a speed day?

Trying to get things moving along here Regan.

Wendy WW

Isla WW wrote: »

Wolves, if your looking for a Jester and Wendy isn't on your team, sort it out.

So you’re working with the wolves now Isla? Yikes that’s gonna look bad for you.

Isla WW

Wendy WW wrote: »

Have you read Lucy’s posts about shooting people and having a hit list?

She can only be bad if Derry is. So Derry is at the very least as good an option as her.



roles don't equal good/bad, she could have a hit list and be an odd night vig for example (we have seen the even night one) but that would not equal good or bad.


btw I'm not saying Lucy is good. I'm saying she is tied to Derry. If Derry is good so is she, if he's bad I'd assume so is she.

Wendy WW

Lucy WW wrote: »

Well Wendigo. I say we all just ingore you, as in nobody even acknowledges your posts or existence until we can get a bullet or posion to kill you.