The 2019-20 Emirates FA Cup

Mr.Nice Guy

Zero shots on target yet again for Solskjaer's United. Still, he's able to manage a smile at least.

thebaz

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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This BS again.
The FA Cup has been devalued because the value of getting into Europe is so high and because the value of the premier league is so high.

Top premier league teams concentrate on getting in Europe.

Middle and lower premier league teams concentrate on staying the premier league.

Top championship teams concentrate on getting into the premier league.

So of the top two tiers 32 of the teams would be concerned with something other than the FA Cup.

No amount of rescheduling, or gimmicks will return the FA Cup to it's original glory.

The only thing that could remotely save it is Brexit.

In a Brexit scenario teams will find it harder to attract top EU talent because of new labour restrictions.
That drop off could result is a devaluing of the premier league bubble, the league would lose its attractiveness, and as a result the money in it would be less.
Then teams might see a bit more value in the FA Cup.

On and Utd did not pull out in '99.
The FA asked them to play in the World Club Cup so that it might boost the FAs 2006 world cup bid.

you have all the answers - even blaming Brexit - United did pull out and the tournament has never recovered - other factors didnt help - forgot how sensitive United fans are to any criticism of ther precoius club

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Zero shots on target yet again for Solskjaer's United. Still, he's able to manage a smile at least.

It's a mystery to me how this has become acceptable.

I can't see him being sacked either incredibly.

Fr Tod Umptious

thebaz wrote: »

you have all the answers - even blaming Brexit - United did pull out and the tournament has never recovered - other factors didnt help - forgot how sensitive United fans are to any criticism of ther precoius club

If you read the post I'm not blaming Brexit for anything, on the contrary, a consequence of Brexit may be an FA Cup recovery in some shape or form.

As for the Utd and precious fan stuff, I'm not a fan of Utd, so hard luck with that.

SEPT 23 1989

It will never be devalued by fans of clubs who never have a hope of winning anything else

Agent Coulson

The Wigan fans will always have the FA Cup no matter what league they are in beating Oil Rich Superstar Man City.

SEPT 23 1989

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Wigan fans will always have the FA Cup no matter what league they are in beating Oil Rich Superstar Man City.

Absolutely

That’s what’s it’s all about

Some fans will never get that

Fr Tod Umptious

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Absolutely

That’s what’s it’s all about

Some fans will never get that

I don't think to there is any question that fans, especially fans of lower league teams still enjoy the FA Cup and don't devalue the winning of it.

But it's more about how much the teams (management, owners etc) value it anymore.

Harry Palmr

Deli Alli dived and carded

Loafing Oaf

Kudos to the ref for booking diving Dele. You could see he had run into a blind alley and was going to try to wangle a free

Iused2likebusts

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'll be putting money on Spurs for the Fa cup. Jose will target the competition and play stronger teams than most of the other big teams to try win a trophy.

Ye pretty much the only PL team to play a full strength team. Did the same at Utd targeting the league cup to win a trophy and from memory something similar with Chelsea.

acquiescefc

So happy for this lad. Drafted in for his debut and was astonishingly comfortable against Brighton. No media training or anything just a footballer enjoying his first game in the Cup against a Prem team. Video has gone viralish

https://twitter.com/swfc/status/1213531792420065281

TitianGerm

Middelsbourgh just gone 1 up.

Iused2likebusts

TitianGerm wrote: »

Middelsbourgh just gone 1 up.

Just great .

joe_99

Jose went with a very strong team too. He really wants a trophy this season and FA cup only realistic option

Everton gone to evens favourites after the lineups. Liverpool 5/2

ebbsy

alchemist33 wrote: »

United pulling out didn't make a bit of difference. The final used to be special because it was the only live club football you saw all year. Regular televised games, semi finals at wembley, changing around the kick-off times, and the champions league have all made the cup less important.

Great point. Especially the semis at Wembley.

It's like Spurs playing there.

Shanotheslayer

Milner off injured.

Looked a hamstring pull?

Bleating Lamb

What TV station is showing Liverpool Everton game?

Shanotheslayer

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

What TV station is showing Liverpool Everton game?

BBC1

Bleating Lamb

Only tuning in now to Pool game....who has been the better side?

Shanotheslayer

If Liverpool scored from that corner. Would VAR have went back to the attempt on goal? As looked like Origi was offside.

castletownman

Maybe if the FA increased the prize money so its more than say finishing in 5th place in the PL, it might gets its mojo back?

Whatever about the top four chasing teams playing weakened sides, mid-table teams doing likewise is a joke.

.G.

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

If Liverpool scored from that corner. Would VAR have went back to the attempt on goal? As looked like Origi was offside.

New phase of play so no. Its those things they need to clean up with VAR application.

Mr.Crinklewood

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

BBC1

..and Eir Sport 1

Mr.Nice Guy

Some goal from Jones.

.G.

Scouser too, he'll love that.

Shanotheslayer

Ridiculous goal. Unbelievable curl on that

Mr.Crinklewood

Decent finish

Esse85

You'd think Everton had the kids out, they have been atrocious this second half.

Super strike.

.G.

Great performance by our kids, Everton should just disband after that.

2nd best team in Liverpool is Liverpool reserves/kids by the looks of it

.G.

If Carlo wasn't aware of just how much of a sh1tshow he's taken on he does now.

TitianGerm

Jones is only 18. He wasn't even a twinkle in his father's eye the last time Everton won at Anfield.

Agent Coulson

Everton declared record losses today and then had that loss on the pitch not a good day for them.

Carlo might start to wonder what has he gotten into.

Shanotheslayer

I'm not even surpised at the result tbh.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Everton declared record losses today and then had that loss on the pitch not a good day for them.

Carlo might start to wonder what has he gotten into.

Still trying to figure out why he's there. Surely better offers from bigger clubs.

Agent Coulson

When is the 4th round draw?

Dcully

Carlo done nothing but get sacked over and over lately.
He is well past it.
Fits right in with this Everton team.
LFC kids took the absolute piss out there.

.G.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

When is the 4th round draw?

Tomorrow before the Monday game

Agent Coulson

Should Liverpool winning be seen as the upset of the 3rd round?

Mr.Nice Guy

Dcully wrote:

Carlo done nothing but get sacked over and over lately.
He is well past it.
Fits right in with this Everton team.
LFC kids took the absolute piss out there.

'Well past it' Ancelotti finished second in Serie A last season, got Napoli into the last 16 of the CL this season, and has beaten Klopp's Liverpool twice in 12 months. The man has had a good start to life at Everton, suffering defeat to Man City and losing at one of the toughest grounds in the sport, Anfield. Hardly a surprise given his resources.

As for these kids, Milner, Adrian, Lallana, Origi, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Gomez have all played high-level games for Liverpool. Minamino has been hyped to the rafters. Half the Liverpool team perhaps could be said to fit the description of kids.

The match exposed the deficiencies of Everton. They need to move on half that team as the likes of Schneiderlin, Walcott and Sidibe were useful five years ago but offer little for the future. Calvert-Lewin and Holgate can be decent squad players but not for the first team. Wouldn't be confident in Mina and Pickford either. The loss of Idrissa Gueye has been huge and they've not been able to replace him. Gbamin's injury was a disaster for them. Priority areas are a DM, right winger, CB and striker.

RasTa

You don't see many 18 year old's with perms anymore.

https://twitter.com/ViasportFotball/status/1213888029523431425

Fabulous hair

Dcully

Ancelotti finished second in Serie A last season, got Napoli into the last 16 of the CL this season, and has beaten Klopp's Liverpool twice in 12 months

Still well past it and a shadow of his former self.
How long before he is sacked yet again?

Mr.Nice Guy

Dcully wrote: »

Still well past it and a shadow of his former self.
How long before he is sacked yet again?

In what way is he past it and a shadow of his former self? By virtue of being sacked from a job? By that measurement, almost all coaches in the game are past it given the rate of dismissals. Don't think you really believe what you're saying.

RasTa

Just seen the Spurs result too with a full strength squad. That's as bad as Everton imo

Tom Mann Centuria

Big result of the day, Northampton Town into the draw for the fourth round after comprehensive win over Burton Albion, a team from a league above them.

Doesn't happen that often, guaranteed to get a dud draw now rather than a "glamour" tie.

Fitz*

Before today, Williams, Phillips & Larouci had 1 combined appearance for Liverpool first team. Elliot a teenager with a handful of appearances, Jones likewise.

Everton had a full team out, safe for Gomes.

That's the worst derby result for Everton in years. Worse than losing 5-2 or 4-0 like recent years.

Mr.Nice Guy

FitzShane wrote: »

Before today, Williams, Phillips & Larouci had 1 combined appearance for Liverpool first team. Elliot a teenager with a handful of appearances, Jones likewise.

Everton had a full team out, safe for Gomes.

That's the worst derby result for Everton in years. Worse than losing 5-2 or 4-0 like recent years.

Gbamin and Iwobi were missing through injury so not a full team out. Delph didn't start either. And the likes of Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Origi have all featured in big games and acquitted themselves well. The match was decided ultimately by a wonder strike.

Great to beat Everton with the kids. Same next round please