Who would best represent Waterford in the next general election?

friendlyfun

Cabaal wrote: »

Couldn't agree more,
The water charges fiasco is a perfect example of how the general public fail to educate themselves and would rather blame those who they elect rather then admit to themselves that they failed to do one basic thing we should do before voting...inform yourself!

FG made it clear in their manifesto that they intended to bring in water charges, they got voted in by a large majority at the time and then when they try to follow through on their manifesto people are outraged
:rolleyes:

On council level its even sillier, people accept all sorts of silly promises the person will never have any control or input over.

In fairness I doubt it was FG supporters who were out in their droves against water charges

sunnysoutheast

Anybody who will have a significant cabinet post in the next government.

At the moment that looks like Paudie Coffey.

It's not the way I'd want the country to be run, but let's face it that's how it works.

hardybuck

sunnysoutheast wrote: »

Anybody who will have a significant cabinet post in the next government.

At the moment that looks like Paudie Coffey.

It's not the way I'd want the country to be run, but let's face it that's how it works.

Coffey I reckon is quite unlikely to get a Cabinet post, initially at least, but would be a candidate for Minister of State.

vriesmays

https://www.thejournal.ie/waterford-psychiatric-unit-overcrowding-4875318-Nov2019/

DLS_75

That’s the problem in this city, all we have is TDs condemning things and not actually doing any work

sunnysoutheast

hardybuck wrote: »

Coffey I reckon is quite unlikely to get a Cabinet post, initially at least, but would be a candidate for Minister of State.

Yeah that's probably a fair point. It's a pity he wasn't elected last time round from the point of view of progressing local projects. Shortsighted really. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happen again though.

friendlyfun

DLS_75 wrote: »

That’s the problem in this city, all we have is TDs condemning things and not actually doing any work

I think David Cullinane has done a lot

dark crystal

Cullinane is a great TD. Always speaks well in the Dail and always clued in when interviewed on TV/radio. Pity we'll never see him in a ministerial role.

Halligan is the greatest waste of space that has ever been sent to Dail Eireann from any constituency. Mounteback.

dark crystal wrote: »

Are the Social Democrats not running any candidates in Waterford at all?

They're not. I contacted them recently asking this and they said there was no immediate plan to.

debok

vriesmays wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/waterford-psychiatric-unit-overcrowding-4875318-Nov2019/

Your new strategy of giving links to negative things about Waterford is only proving the point that Waterford is not being looked after by this government.
So that's the mortuary , cardiac care and psychiatric care that aren't up to standard. But Waterford people are wrong to give out/march about these things

Gillman1998

I’m relatively new to Waterford and wasn’t here for the last election.

When I moved here initially the people who impressed me the most were Eddie Mulligan at local level and David Cullinane. I’ve got to know a bit more now and for the next election I would say the best people for the Dail would be Cullinane, Mulligan, Coffey and possibly Cummins. Having said that the chances of FG getting 2 seats must be minimal after the dreadful situation, and getting worse, of the hospital. Perhaps even 1 seat might be a challenge, who knows.

I think definitely with Cullinane, Mulligan and Coffey up there things might start to get done.

Gardner

friendlyfun wrote: »

I think David Cullinane has done a lot

What has he done?

ExoPolitic

hardybuck wrote: »

Got a lot of votes in Tramore - could be a dark horse and outside bet for fourth seat.

Marc is a brilliant lad, has been campaigning/working for what he believes in whether he was a TD/councillor or not, a real man of principle. However I don't agree with a lot of green policies.

DLS_75

ExoPolitic wrote: »

Marc is a brilliant lad, has been campaigning/working for what he believes in whether he was a TD/councillor or not, a real man of principle. However I don't agree with a lot of green policies.

And that’s pretty much all he talks about, so he could never get my vote for that reason.

debok

Gardner wrote: »

What has he done?

Done what he can when in opposition. Unlike halligan, butler and deasy who are in government and just make promises that never happen and then accept praise when something mildly related to there promises comes true . Well in fairness to deasy he doesn't make even makes promises just does nothing so maybe he's even more honest than halligan/butler

Captain Red Beard

debok wrote: »

Done what he can when in opposition.

Which is what exactly?

debok

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

Which is what exactly?

He is in opposition so basically all he can to is the question the decisions being made by those in government like deasy and halligan.he also treats people with a bit of respect during my dealings with him. Not answering his phone constantly when talking face to face with a person.Butler is also a waste
If he wasn't with sinn Fein he would be out best politician.

Muttley79

I know he obviously has party loyalties with Sinn Fein,but I personally think if he ran as a independent for Waterford he would probably sweep up a lot of votes with people that are just pure sick of the party political system in this country,it would give him leverage to get things done in this county that we badly crave

iseegirls

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Halligan is the greatest waste of space that has ever been sent to Dail Eireann from any constituency. Mounteback.

What about Ciara Conway? Only showed up for photo opportunities when businesses were shutting down. And appearing on Midday on TV3 a lot.

kayaksurfbum

debok wrote: »

He is in opposition so basically all he can to is the question the decisions being made by those in government like deasy and halligan.he also treats people with a bit of respect during my dealings with him. Not answering his phone constantly when talking face to face with a person.Butler is also a waste
If he wasn't with sinn Fein he would be out best politician.

But he is in Sinn Fein. Whats the point in voting for them? He should have stayed in local politics, he could get more results.

hardybuck

People considering voting for SF need to reflect on the current mess they're involved with in the North, which has no doubt contributed to the lawlessness around the border region.

Not only do their Assembly members in the North not turn up to work, in the middle of all this Brexit mess their MPs won't turn up to their jobs in Westminster and provide a nationalist voice in the Brexit debate.

In the Republic they seem to have huge issues internally with lots of allegations of bullying. Some officials have been before the courts recently for threatening and abusing Gardai. Another councillor was jailed for torturing a man in his garage.

Mary Lou has had a rough start as leader and is going to be under pressure after the next election because it won't go well.

hardybuck

debok wrote: »

He is in opposition so basically all he can to is the question the decisions being made by those in government like deasy and halligan.he also treats people with a bit of respect during my dealings with him. Not answering his phone constantly when talking face to face with a person.Butler is also a waste
If he wasn't with sinn Fein he would be out best politician.

An opposition TD can contribute to the development of legislation which is one of the key activities of Parliament.

Gardner

hardybuck wrote: »

An opposition TD can contribute to the development of legislation which is one of the key activities of Parliament.

which is why you would be asking the contributors to this thread what he has done legislatively. sound bites are great but what substance are behind them.

Wanderer78

So after consulting this thread, I've decided, it's nobody

dk1982

hardybuck wrote: »

Not only do their Assembly members in the North not turn up to work, in the middle of all this Brexit mess their MPs won't turn up to their jobs in Westminster and provide a nationalist voice in the Brexit debate.

They're literally elected because of their policy of abstention. Nationalists who vote for them are well aware of what they're getting so i'm not sure why you decide to speak on their behalf.

hardybuck

dk1982 wrote: »

They're literally elected because of their policy of abstention. Nationalists who vote for them are well aware of what they're getting so i'm not sure why you decide to speak on their behalf.

It would be more accurate to state that they're elected in spite of their policy of abstention - not because of it.

In many constituencies, because of the proportional representation system in place in the UK, many nationalist voters have the choice between voting for SF and not having their views represented in Parliament, or a DUP or UUP candidate getting in and also not having their views represented in Parliament.

This may help to explain the stunning level of ignorance displayed by senior UK Ministers, including the NI Secretary, on Irish affairs.

Bringing this back to Waterford, as SF are a 32 county organisation, led by their leader in the Dáil, the local electorate should think long and hard about whether they want to support an organisation like this.

Gardner

Bernadette Phillips is running as the 24/7 candidate in the next general election. i bet ya Stan didn't foresee that. She has gazumped Matt Shanahan and his intentions and i'd love to be a fly on the wall when he found out

she introduces herself as Social Scientist, Social Historian, Social Policy. you couldn't make this **** up :D:D:D

debok

Gardner wrote: »

Bernadette Phillips is running as the 24/7 candidate in the next general election. i bet ya Stan didn't foresee that. She has gazumped Matt Shanahan and his intentions and i'd love to be a fly on the wall when he found out

she introduces herself as Social Scientist, Social Historian, Social Policy. you couldn't make this **** up :D:D:D

How do you know mat shanahan plans? All the above drama is in your own head.
I heard she going to sort out north Korea and look into finding aliens.

Stopitwillya

Gardner wrote: »

Bernadette Phillips is running as the 24/7 candidate in the next general election. i bet ya Stan didn't foresee that. She has gazumped Matt Shanahan and his intentions and i'd love to be a fly on the wall when he found out

she introduces herself as Social Scientist, Social Historian, Social Policy. you couldn't make this **** up :D:D:D

Not really.
Matt is a shoe in if he runs.

Aquos76

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Not really.
Matt is a shoe in if he runs.

Would be a waste of a seat if you ask me, electing somebody on a single issue such as the hospital is ridiculous, just look at how ineffective John Halligan has being in government and he is a position to do something.

DLS_75

I don’t think Matt has anything to worry about from Bernadette. Whoever she is.