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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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    #1232
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Witchie wrote: »
    I am hoping my towns people make sure these people and their families never have a minute peace for the rest of their lives. I hope the kids are raised far away from such despicable murdering scum.

    It was an accident.


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    #1233
    Witchie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    People trafficking can often go wrong and some end up as slaves so them making money from the desperation of others and resulting in the deaths of these poor craythurs may not be technically murder but to me it is akin to it.


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    #1234
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Witchie wrote: »
    People trafficking can often go wrong and some end up as slaves so them making money from the desperation of others and resulting in the deaths of these poor craythurs may not be technically murder but to me it is akin to it.
    What annoys me is the support they are *still* getting from all the tangs on Facebook. While I disagree that what they’ve done amounts to murder, it’s reckless and cruel what those 39 people were subjected to. I find it plausible that the victims were maybe unaware of the risks involved in getting in a refrigerated trailer over say a curtain side, but I suspect the lorrymen knew fine well the dangers.


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    #1235
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Witchie wrote: »
    Fair enough but in my mind they are murderers.

    You're saying you suffer from delusions?


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    #1236
    otnomart
    Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Today's News: 12 migrants found in refrigerated lorry on motorway car park outside Turnhout (Antwerp)

    https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2019/10/30/12-migrants-found-in-refrigerated-lorry-on-motorway-car-park/


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    #1237
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    Interesting development (given the recent tragedy) is that about 8-9 migrants were found by a lorry driver in Antwerp in a refrigerated lorry carrying fruit and veg. They have now been handed over to the authorities. Sky News just now.

    Just shows the desperation of these poor people and what they're prepared to do.


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    #1238
    celt262
    Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭celt262


    Calypso Realm wrote: »
    Interesting development (given the recent tragedy) is that about 8-9 migrants were found by a lorry driver in Antwerp in a refrigerated lorry carrying fruit and veg. They have now been handed over to the authorities. Sky News just now.

    Just shows the desperation of these poor people and what they're prepared to do.

    It's more than likely going on everyday of the week unfortunately.


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    #1239
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Calypso Realm wrote: »
    Interesting development (given the recent tragedy) is that about 8-9 migrants were found by a lorry driver in Antwerp in a refrigerated lorry carrying fruit and veg. They have now been handed over to the authorities. Sky News just now.

    Just shows the desperation of these poor people and what they're prepared to do.

    Glad they've been knicked. These chancers aren't smart enough to preserve their own life, then we have to make it seem as bad an idea as possible.

    Rules have to change to every can is getting cracked multiple times along the way.


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    #1240
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    celt262 wrote: »
    more than likely going on everyday of the week unfortunately.

    Absolutely but given what happened in UK, I would have thought refrig lorries would have been avoided at all costs-especially ones where the driver is unaware of their presence.


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    #1241
    buttercups88
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    Ronaldinho wrote: »
    It was an accident.

    Were they accidentally locked in a giant fridge then?


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    #1242
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,167 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    celt262 wrote: »
    It's more than likely going on everyday of the week unfortunately.

    Sadly it isn't rocket science to work that out given the amount of illegals. Seems it was easy money until it goes tragically wrong.


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    #1243
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    Witchie wrote: »
    Also hear that Ronan called the cops to protest Mo's innocence on the day he was arrested.

    In that case I wonder why Essex police are looking to speak to the brothers as sounded from the news bulletins they had no prior contact whatsoever with those who'd leased the trailer. Maybe I'm wrong though.

    Also, and genuine query here, I'm wondering why a 'criminal gang' wpuld lease it giving their real names? Surely not normal behaviour for those involved in organised crime.


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    #1244
    contrary_devil
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭contrary_devil


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Absolutely, no argument from me on that, that's why I said I wonder what evidence they have and how far back it goes.

    There does seem to be an awful lot of people arrested, and people wanted to be spoken to following his arrest (Mo Robinson), so I again wonder what evidence the cops garnered from him.

    He's either sang like a Canary, or (and this is my theory) they got some unarguable electronic correspondence between devices, such as WhatsApp, Facebook messenger or even just old fashioned call and text logs.

    First thing I read about the young lad being arrested coming off the France to Ireland Ferry was that he had disposed of his phone before arriving back.

    That's not going to do him much favours if they have his undeniable correspondence on another device imo.


    I'm inclined to agree with your theory of the police getting evidence from his phone and apps because if Mo has spilled the beans then, to paraphrase a poster on a trucking forum from up around there, he might not see another birthday. If he keeps his gob shut and does his time he'll be looked after.


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    #1245
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Glad they've been knicked. These chancers aren't smart enough to preserve their own life, then we have to make it seem as bad an idea as possible.

    Rules have to change to every can is getting cracked multiple times along the way.
    I’d like to see how long you’d last under air strikes in Syria


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    #1246
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    armaghlad wrote: »
    I’d like to see how long you’d last under air strikes in Syria
    Good job they're in Belgium then, isn't it?


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    #1247
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    Good job they're in Belgium then, isn't it?

    And from Far east Asia


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    #1248
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    Were they accidentally locked in a giant fridge then?

    ... you think they didn't knowingly enter the can knowing it would be locked?

    Maybe we should rule it as a suicide hmmm?

    No, didn't think so.

    The locking isn't a variable here.


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    #1249
    contrary_devil
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭contrary_devil


    http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2019/10/24/essex-truck-tragedy-why-the-driver-is-probably-innocent


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    #1250
    dk1982
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭dk1982


    contrary_devil wrote: »
    http://www.blogistan.co.uk/blog/mt.php/2019/10/24/essex-truck-tragedy-why-the-driver-is-probably-innocent

    Didn't age well that


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    #1251
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    Good job they're in Belgium then, isn't it?
    Well maybe they wouldn’t be in Belgium trying to get into the UK if the UK weren’t dropping bombs in their home country


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    #1252
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Well maybe they wouldn’t be in Belgium trying to get into the UK if the UK weren’t dropping bombs in their home country

    They're Asian viatnamese , don't think there's any bombs being dropped there atm ?


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    #1253
    Calypso Realm
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭Calypso Realm


    US2 wrote: »
    They're Asian viatnamese , don't think there's any bombs being dropped there atm ?

    The refugees found in the lorry in Antwerp were Syrians.


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    #1254
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Calypso Realm wrote: »
    The refugees found in the lorry in Antwerp were Syrians.

    Didn't see that, sorry. Can you show me the source ?


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    #1255
    nacho libre
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    I doubt this investigation will lead to any snakeheads being arrested
    Robinson will take the fall to ensure the safety of himself and those close to him.


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    #1256
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    US2 wrote: »
    Didn't see that, sorry. Can you show me the source ?

    There is many go look.

    As such these lads were fleeing legitimate conflict. Glad they're safe now.


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    #1257
    soap1978
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭soap1978


    nacho libre wrote: »
    I doubt this investigation will lead to any snakeheads being arrested
    Robinson will take the fall to ensure the safety of himself and those close to him.

    Take the fall?u think he's not guilty?


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    #1258
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    soap1978 wrote: »
    Take the fall?u think he's not guilty?

    Taking the fall for the others higher up by not naming names.
    He will be looked after that way,if he sings like a canary he wont last a week in prison.


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    #1259
    goat2
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    US2 wrote: »
    They're Asian viatnamese , don't think there's any bombs being dropped there atm ?
    There are supposed to have been a convoy of three lorries , where are the other two,
    Did Mr Robinson pull into some quiet estate to open the doors of the fridge unit, and why


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    #1260
    lunamoon
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭lunamoon


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Taking the fall for the others higher up by not naming names.
    He will be looked after that way,if he sings like a canary he wont last a week in prison.

    Just out of curiosity. Have you stats on how many serious assaults happen in prisons? From my understanding he'd go straight into protection in prison if there was any sort of threat to his life.


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    #1261
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Taking the fall for the others higher up by not naming names.
    He will be looked after that way,if he sings like a canary he wont last a week in prison.

    If the 'higher ups' are mostly 'Irish Catholic' of some description will anyone in an English prison care though? Might even be a positive in that environment...


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