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39 people found dead in trailer in UK

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    #212
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 52,012 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Lackey wrote: »
    Sky news saying ‘it suggests’ it was the driver that called the police.
    I doubt he knew they were in the back.
    Drivers in our place aren’t allowed to open the back until we see them break the seal and check the numbers match our paper work. If he didn’t know God love him and the guys ready to take the delivery:(
    RIP

    But why would he then open the container on the side of the road?


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    #213
    [Deleted User]
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Poor form IMO for sky news to be naming the driver and showing his picture on sky. I mean it's still likely that he only found out what was going on when he got to where the truck is now(I mean someone alerted the ambulance service) and is not connected to how those 39 people got into that trailer.

    That is a possibility. He may be totally innocent.

    It's also a possibility that he knew they were there, knew they were dead and was 'caught in the act of disposing of them'.

    No one knows yet really.


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    #214
    D.Q
    Registered Users Posts: 6,053 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Frank Sobotka is going to hit the roof


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    #215
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    Wonder what the price was for each life lost I mean in monatery terms what did these people pay?
    There’s WhatsApp’s going round saying £2500 per head. Albanian mafia responsible apparently


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    #216
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    derrymcorry wrote: »
    Whatsapp picture going around of him (and it's him) standing behind an Ulster flag with the words 'Mid-Ulster UVF' on it.

    Wonder what's the story with the Ireland crest on his lorry :confused:


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    #217
    Itssoeasy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    That is a possibility. He may be totally innocent.

    It's also a possibility that he knew they were there, knew they were dead and was 'caught in the act of disposing of them'.

    No one knows yet really.

    And shouldnt sky news bloody wait until the police are able to determine which one of the scenarios above you outlined is actually true before naming him ?


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    #218
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Lady Spangles wrote: »


    According to the Belfast Telegraph, the driver is in fact from Portadown. Hopefully this can now bring comfort and solace to traumatised Republicans at this difficult time in their lives.
    With all due respect, this lad comes from down the road from me. So people like me have a passing interest in what circles he may or may not associate in. Nothing really to do with point scoring.


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    #219
    Noveight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Wonder what's the story with the Ireland crest on his lorry :confused:

    Lorry is registered in Bulgaria to an Irish firm. Not owned by the bloke who was driving.


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    #220
    Lady Spangles
    Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    armaghlad wrote: »
    With all due respect, this lad comes from down the road from me. So people like me have a passing interest in what circles he may or may not associate in. Nothing really to do with point scoring.

    I wasn't referring to you, but someone else who as good as accused Essex Police of "claiming" Co. Monaghan. That was the origin of the mildly nauseating point scoring. I haven't seen your comments so really con't respond to them.


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    #221
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Noveight wrote: »
    Lorry is registered in Bulgaria to an Irish firm. Not owned by the bloke who was driving.

    Apparently the truck operates here
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    #222
    Noveight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently the truck operates here

    Partly. Belgian plates on it.


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    #223
    Lady Spangles
    Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Wonder what's the story with the Ireland crest on his lorry :confused:

    It's an Irish lorry, isn't it? Of far more concern (for most people, anyway), is the 39 corpses in the back, rather than any crests or emblems on the front.

    Regardless, it's quite probable that the driver had no idea those bodies were there. I'm shocked that he's been arrested on suspicion of murder since there's no evidence that he himself was actively involved in people smuggling.

    It's not even the same driver driving the trucks across the continent, is it? They change over at different ports? I'm really not sure so I hope someone else is.


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    #224
    GBX
    Registered Users Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    And shouldnt sky news bloody wait until the police are able to determine which one of the scenarios above you outlined is actually true before naming him ?

    Sky News and the other tabloids will write anything to get viewers/readers and adjust their stories to suit their agenda as more info filters through. Rightly or wrongly.


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    #225
    Lackey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    tayto lover wrote: »
    But why would he then open the container on the side of the road?

    If it’s true he was delivering to gfs I can’t see a loading bay on google maps street view.
    It’s located semi detached in a square of businesses with a little customer parking

    I’m open to correction of course but looking at where he parked on google maps it makes sense as to why he’s parked there.

    https://goo.gl/maps/4YiaWu3S9AZfSThs8


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    #226
    IRE60
    Registered Users Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭IRE60


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    And shouldnt sky news bloody wait until the police are able to determine which one of the scenarios above you outlined is actually true before naming him ?


    He's been arrested = can be named.


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    #227
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Parked up to sleep


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    #228
    theguzman
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    Horrible thing to happen, looks like a refrigerated trailer, I wonder if they froze to death or if it was from lack of Oxygen. If it was a canvas sided trailer they'd have been okay most likely, although lack of water would kill them over 4 days also.


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    #229
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    My apologies for wanting to stop Africans dying. If you call me racist then I must be racist. I'm just too thick to figure out how wanting to stop people dying is racist. Please relieve me of my ignorance. And also please explain how you're not racist because I'm also confused there too.

    *My definition of racist: Someone who hates people of race/ races other than their own. Since that's not my issue, and because I'm racist (as you say) I obviously have the wrong definition. Your assistance would be much appreciated.

    Meanwhile, people are dying so let's sort this out quickly.

    Did someone call you racist? Otherwise, get down off your scaffold.


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    #230
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Lady Spangles wrote: »
    It's an Irish lorry, isn't it? Of far more concern (for most people, anyway), is the 39 corpses in the back, rather than any crests or emblems on the front.

    Regardless, it's quite probable that the driver had no idea those bodies were there. I'm shocked that he's been arrested on suspicion of murder since there's no evidence that he himself was actively involved in people smuggling.

    It's not even the same driver driving the trucks across the continent, is it? They change over at different ports? I'm really not sure so I hope someone else is.

    Agree, have no concern/care for the origin of the driver / tractor unit. I took the bait by yer man and made my reply. Bit ashamed tbh.


    I'm sickened by this incident, RIP to the 39 souls. :(


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    #231
    MadYaker
    Registered Users Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Loads are normally sealed.
    He'd just check paperwork in cab and seal number vs paperwork
    He didn't bring this trailer from Dublin via Holyhead
    And somehow i doubt he was meant to open the doors at all at wherever the destination was, just drop somewher probably middle of nowhere/off beaten track

    So they can’t check what’s in the back but if it’s a load of contraband the driver gets arrested? That doesn’t seem very fair


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    #232
    scotchy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭scotchy


    MadYaker wrote: »
    So they can’t check what’s in the back but if it’s a load of contraband the driver gets arrested? That doesn’t seem very fair

    The same as if a postman delivers a parcel of heroin, he will have no knowledge of the contents.

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    #233
    scotchy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭scotchy


    Gerrydubar wrote: »
    This is a terrible tragedy.

    The driver was allegedly a member of the Portadown UVF, the UVF have been known to be heavily involved in smuggling in the past, particularly women.

    Could they have had something to do with it?

    Congratulations on your first post.

    Welcome to Boards.

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    #234
    Pasamos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6 ✭Pasamos


    Those protestants up to no good as usual.


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    #235
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Very possible driver simply picked up sealed trailer at port and is completely innocent

    Equally possible 39 people hid themselves in the truck at night and yet again the driver knew nothing


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    #236
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    There's quite a few first time posters and really low count posters appearing in this thread banging on about the UVF and other bullsh1t and exclusively on any thread related to migrants...

    I hope boards.ie is on top of it


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    #237
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 52,012 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Equally possible 39 people hid themselves in the truck at night and yet again the driver knew nothing

    Would he not have noticed the seal broken?


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    #238
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Would he not have noticed the seal broken?

    Check out reports from calais, sneaking in while at traffic (although not 39 people) , cutting and repairing curtainsides, or somebody putting them in and resealing after, those tags arent hard to get


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    #239
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,846 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Equally possible 39 people hid themselves in the truck at night and yet again the driver knew nothing

    39 people managed to break into a sealed refrigerated unit and then, from inside, managed to repair the seals so they looked untampered?


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    #240
    Lady Spangles
    Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Would he not have noticed the seal broken?


    They stow away on the lorries either during or shortly after loading, don't they? It would be prior to sealing the container, at any rate.


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    #241
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Equally possible 39 people hid themselves in the truck at night and yet again the driver knew nothing

    It's pretty unlikely these 39 people just hopped on when the truck was stopped somewhere. That does happen, but not 39 people. This was an organised people smuggling operation. Probably not the first.


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