Wonder Woman 1984

micks_address

Any word on if it's streaming here by Christmas legally?

MJohnston

Nothing announced yet, but as I said before, it would be completely insane for them to release it for streaming in the US and not at least even offer a digital purchase method elsewhere.

irish_stevo815

micks_address wrote: »

Any word on if it's streaming here by Christmas legally?

I'd be surprised if Sky didnt have it added to the Cinema section in the Sky Store. Either that or on the Google store maybe?

Skerries

so definitely no cinema release?

MJohnston

Skerries wrote: »

so definitely no cinema release?

Did you not see the post by JP Liz V1 above?

micks_address

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if Sky didnt have it added to the Cinema section in the Sky Store. Either that or on the Google store maybe?

Cancelled sky last month. I was hoping Amazon might have it. I wouldnt mind paying 19.99 for it and being able to watch it few times.. hbo max will have it xmas day in hdr.. 4k i might see whats involved there vpn wise

silverharp

were they worried that holding back the movie to 2021 would undermine the villain Trump allegory?

iguana

The cinema release is very likely to be a flop though, realistically. Many areas of the UK are in a tier where cinemas can't open. And even where they are open in Ireland and UK, they can't legally fill the cinema due to having to leave empty seats between each group. And that's if even enough people are willing to go to a cinema, which is something a lot of people won't do. Vaccination will be underway for over a week in the UK when this opens. It will be starting a few weeks after in the EU, and will be underway soon in the US. By late spring most cinemas will probably be able to open at or near full capacity. I really wish they'd have held off for a few more months and made this a massive celebratory release in spring.

MJohnston

They're probably regretting it a bit with the vaccine news, but at the same time there's obviously some cash flow reason why they're going straight to HBO Max. Best thing they could do would be to sign a big international streaming deal with Netflix or Amazon to recoup some of the rest of the budget too.

The real criminal thing is that it was 100% ready and scheduled to release over a year ago, but they delayed it for a bit of extra summer box office.

micks_address

MJohnston wrote: »

They're probably regretting it a bit with the vaccine news, but at the same time there's obviously some cash flow reason why they're going straight to HBO Max. Best thing they could do would be to sign a big international streaming deal with Netflix or Amazon to recoup some of the rest of the budget too.

The real criminal thing is that it was 100% ready and scheduled to release over a year ago, but they delayed it for a bit of extra summer box office.

id imagine HBO will get a bounce like never before with new signups.. warners might make money from it..

Full_Circle_81

MJohnston wrote: »

The real criminal thing is that it was 100% ready and scheduled to release over a year ago, but they delayed it for a bit of extra summer box office.

Yikes, is that true? I thought it was delayed for reshoots or something similar.....

ixoy

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

Yikes, is that true? I thought it was delayed for reshoots or something similar.....

'The Rise of Skywalker' apparently scared them off.

Agent Coulson

They are saying this will need to do $500m at the global box office just to break even now on top of the HBO Max Deal.


Tenet did $360m at the global box office by comparison.

johnny_ultimate

The problem is, there’s now a massive backlog of films waiting to be released. When cinemas do reopen widely there’s going to be maybe not a rush (there’s not going to be like a big ‘immunisation day’ or anything where everything goes back to normal), but a lot of films fighting for attention in a short space of time. Warner Bros is probably thinking not just about Wonder Woman, but the dozen other films with fixed release dates in their own stable, and the other delayed films from other studios they’ll be in competition with.

It’s easy to say ‘just shuffle everything back a year’. But production hasn’t been as badly affected as releases, strangely enough, so the backlog is only building. Getting stuff out has its benefits even with minimal box office - and hey if you can use it as a very expensive ad for a streaming service in the process, sure why not.

The White Wolf

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a34882363/wonder-woman-1984-first-reactions/

Early reactions suggest it's a hit but we all know these can be wide of the mark.

Agent Coulson

Lots more reviews coming out and they are all basically saying it's a great and clever film.

pixelburp

There's always an element of skewed positivity from these early reviews; who wouldn't be a bit more effusive if they got advanced screenings over everyone else? Rise of Skywalker had plenty of breathless early reactions after all

Bowlardo

They should wait till cinemas are open properly to release these again

MJohnston

Yeah I never trust these Twitter "critic" reviews. The review embargo is up on December 15th, so I'll await the Letterboxd star ratings from my followed few on that day and hope for the best.

growleaves

I love the trailer version of Blue Monday and the whole look of the film. Will be worth a watch.

DeWitt

Has anyone been able to book tickets today? None of the theatres in my area have it listed.

Tazzimus

growleaves wrote: »

I love the trailer version of Blue Monday and the whole look of the film. Will be worth a watch.

Sebastian Bohm did it. He did versions of Sweet Dreams and Paint it Black as well which are decent enough.

growleaves

Tazzimus wrote: »

Sebastian Bohm did it. He did versions of Sweet Dreams and Paint it Black as well which are decent enough.

Thanks I'll give those a listen.

siblers

pixelburp wrote: »

There's always an element of skewed positivity from these early reviews; who wouldn't be a bit more effusive if they got advanced screenings over everyone else? Rise of Skywalker had plenty of breathless early reactions after all

The first one is 93% on RT and I found it incredibly average. Not sure if the reviews mean a lot for films like this. Feels like critics will generally lean towards giving a positive review

pixelburp

siblers wrote: »

The first one is 93% on RT and I found it incredibly average. Not sure if the reviews mean a lot for films like this. Feels like critics will generally lean towards giving a positive review

Many if not most of these early reviews aren't necessarily standard critical outlets, but fan sites, influencers, bloggers and so on. Often those easily enthused by a seat at a premiere and less likely to actually review the film. Actual critics is another matter but while YMMV, I wouldn't draw a line between the aggregator consensus and these breathless Twitter reviews

gmisk

pixelburp wrote: »

Many if not most of these early reviews aren't necessarily standard critical outlets, but fan sites, influencers, bloggers and so on. Often those easily enthused by a seat at a premiere and less likely to actually review the film. Actual critics is another matter but while YMMV, I wouldn't draw a line between the aggregator consensus and these breathless Twitter reviews

I saw Terri white from empire gave it a pretty glowing tweet, not full review admittedly but she usually has good taste

mikhail

siblers wrote: »

The first one is 93% on RT and I found it incredibly average. Not sure if the reviews mean a lot for films like this. Feels like critics will generally lean towards giving a positive review

I think it's important to keep in mind that RT scores 100% if a film gets all 3/5 reviews. The first one was fairly harmless; I'd bet it got a lot of middling-to-good reviews. The RT score is a blunt instrument. It's not useless, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

silverharp

The audience score is more reliable if its not in line with the critics score

weldoninhio

siblers wrote: »

The first one is 93% on RT and I found it incredibly average. Not sure if the reviews mean a lot for films like this. Feels like critics will generally lean towards giving a positive review

I thought the first one was awful. Can't believe it got 93% on RT.

Mitch Connor

weldoninhio wrote: »

I thought the first one was awful. Can't believe it got 93% on RT.

i loved the first two thirds of it, thought the last act was a mess - from action to dialog, just a mess.

Agent Coulson

Blooper reel where Jenkins said she got to shoot it in IMAX and the IMAX techs and cast saying you need to see it on an IMAX screen lol

mikhail

branie2

I'm going to see it on Friday of next week

jaxxx

weldoninhio wrote: »

I thought the first one was awful. Can't believe it got 93% on RT.

So you have chosen.. .. death.

branie2 wrote: »

I'm going to see it on Friday of next week

So you have also chosen.. .. death.

dublinman1990

If anyone wants to see WW84 in the IMC in Dún Laoghaire. The times are apparently not favourable for this film.

It's one evening screening per night on Wednesday & Thursday as far as I can see it. Not sure about weekend times yet unfortunately.

The regular screenings begin at 18:45 on Wednesday & Thursday. The Galatic screenings are on an hour later beginning at 19:45 on the same nights.

The Odeon Cinema in Stillorgan OTOH has 8 screenings of this film available per day for Wednesday & Thursday through booking on it's website when it hits cinemas on Wednesday. WW84 will then be reduced to 4 screenings per day in Stillorgan from Friday the 18th of December right up until Christmas Eve.

This means that Odeon can take on more customers who can book tickets online to go & see it.

https://www.odeoncinemas.ie/films/wonder-woman-1984/HO00001208/

bnt

The Virtual World Premiere is in progress right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okgmpNlnHCw

santana75

Saw it tonight and it explodes out of the blocks.......only to die a death in the 2nd third. Really great opening and it's very good for about 30-40 mins but then it just loses momentum and becomes dull. I lost interest and several times I was looking at the clock. Something that did not happen for me with the first film. I thought the first one was great, a real surprise. It had depth, in that it explored the potential for good and evil is us all. This suffered badly from having no real strong theme. It was all over the place. And that's not even counting the use of a plot device that makes Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower seem like the genius plotting of Agatha Christie.
Gal gadot cant be faulted, she is fantastic. Pedro Pascal chews the scenery a bit and Kirsten Wigg does her best. I thought Chris pine stole the first movie, but here he just wasnt given much to do. This is just something unremarkable rolled off the production line, even the score by hans Zimmer is dull. It's not a bad film just nothing interesting either.

AMKC

@ Santana75. I am the opposite to you do. I thought it took a wwhile to get going but when it did it was so worth it and I would give it an 8 put of 10 rating.

I agree call Gadot was just amazing. I am even goi going to say I think this could be one of the best films ever made and one of my favourites. I would easily go see it again if it was not for this cursed virus and face masks.
It's well worth seeing this in the cinema and I think there is a good message in it too as well as some cool scenes. I never looked at my watch once and time flew buy unlike Tenet I enjoyed this film. There is a couple of scenes I had issues with but that's why it is an 8 out of 10film and not a full 10 Mark's.

ronano

Really enjoyed it, I don't think it reaches the heights of the first one but a sequel is going to be different. Gal Godot is brilliant as wonder woman, I can't imagine anyone else playing the character. My only real complaint about the film is overuse of orchestral music to the point that it number any impact it should have had by the end.

titan18

Just went to see it and thought it was ok. 6, or 7 at best our of 10. I thought some of the cgi was pretty poor, particularly the running scenes. Just looked very unnatural, more like a video game than a film. The non action scenes might have been the best part tbh.

DeWitt

Have any tv spots aired for this advertising it's out in theatres? I've had the telly on the last couple of nights and the Disney+ ads are non stop, but I haven't seen anything for Wonder Woman.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

I thought the first one was awful. Can't believe it got 93% on RT.

If they had gone with an African-American wonder woman it would have gotten 101% on RT and have been judged a more important film than Black Panther

Mr Crispy

Nonsense.

Brief_Lives

Any tie-ins with the other members of the justice league?

titan18

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Any tie-ins with the other members of the justice league?

Nah, none. One post credit scene but more of a nod to something else than the DC universe.

pixelburp

Like many well-received films, it's worth remembering the context in which it was released. That when Wonder Woman came out, the DC "extended universe" was in the toilet, and generally much reviled, thanks to Zack Synder's at-best divisive Man of Steel & Batman v. Superman films - and especially Suicide Squad (despite its box office success). The DC films were by and large, garbage.

Wonder Woman came along, and amazed everyone by being competent and broadly entertaining. Nothing special, not even remotely but "not awful" was the barometer of success with DC at this point. It was also the first time DC functionally abandoned the shared universe aspect, with no convoluted connection with Supes or Bats (later completely embraced by Aquaman)

Mr Crispy

Mr Crispy wrote: »

Nonsense.

Well obviously you can't get 101% but the point that I was making was that both Wonder Woman and Black Panther were very much both over-rated as movies due to respective reasons of gender and race roles of hero protagonists.

Mr Crispy

glasso wrote: »

Well obviously you can't get 101% but the point that I was making was that both Wonder Woman and Black Panther were very much both over-rated as movies due to respective reasons of gender and race roles of hero protagonists.

I know what you meant, I just don't agree.

silverharp

Im getting a vibe of a long movie and thin on content

iguana

pixelburp wrote: »

Like many well-received films, it's worth remembering the context in which it was released. That when Wonder Woman came out, the DC "extended universe" was in the toilet, and generally much reviled, thanks to Zack Synder's at-best divisive Man of Steel & Batman v. Superman films - and especially Suicide Squad (despite its box office success). The DC films were by and large, garbage.

Wonder Woman came along, and amazed everyone by being competent and broadly entertaining. Nothing special, not even remotely but "not awful" was the barometer of success with DC at this point. It was also the first time DC functionally abandoned the shared universe aspect, with no convoluted connection with Supes or Bats (later completely embraced by Aquaman)

It was also the first film about a female superhero that wasn't just completely awful.