Nissan Ariya

ewj1978

ELM327 wrote: »

Not the vrt rebate, the SEAI grant, but yes you are correct


Give it as a tax credit to the purchaser instead of off the sales price to the OEM

Yes, My mistake. its the SEAI grant I meant.

Gile_na_gile

Nothing much happening with this car, except that the launch in the UK+Ireland region is likely to be either end of 2021 or early 2022 according to Nissan dealer today. Quite a wait given the ID.4 is arriving here soon. On Ariya launch, see: https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/access-all-ariyas-we-take-a-look-at-the-new-nissan-all-electric-suv-that-has-teslas-model-y-in-its-sights/215370

Would be great to see an Irish OTR retail price, not just indicative pricing, but it is too early yet.
The LR Ariya will be a great LEAF replacement, but a little more upmarket and priced as such. Probably won't see driven reviews until car sales globally are up again.

80sDiesel

I have to say I am a big fan of the electric central console.

latency89

Gile_na_gile wrote: »

Nothing much happening with this car, except that the launch in the UK+Ireland region is likely to be either end of 2021 or early 2022 according to Nissan dealer today. Quite a wait given the ID.4 is arriving here soon. On Ariya launch, see: https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/access-all-ariyas-we-take-a-look-at-the-new-nissan-all-electric-suv-that-has-teslas-model-y-in-its-sights/215370

Would be great to see an Irish OTR retail price, not just indicative pricing, but it is too early yet.
The LR Ariya will be a great LEAF replacement, but a little more upmarket and priced as such. Probably won't see driven reviews until car sales globally are up again.

Going to guess

63kWh €47,000 +
87kWh €57,000 +

Not gonna be cheap

Gile_na_gile

Yeah, the console and the whole dash is nice balance of minimalism and functionalism.

Gile_na_gile

latency89 wrote: »

Going to guess

63kWh €47,000 +
87kWh €57,000 +

Not gonna be cheap

Can't see the logic, though, of competing directly with the M3 SR+ with the 63kWh. I would guess it would have to be less than the 77kWh ID.4 at similar trim.

Ultimately, I wish there were more new options for mid-range C & D segment cars that were not arbitrarily elevated crossover/SUV designs but the market has decided.

slave1

I pity this car if it prices itself alongside the Model Y (Model 3 even)

Silent Running

slave1 wrote: »

I pity this car if it prices itself alongside the Model Y (Model 3 even)

But what if buyers prefer this car to a Tesla Y or 3? Not everyone buys into the idea that Tesla will always be the first choice.

I could have bought a 3LR instead of the VW ID.3 Tour, but I don't like the body style or looks of the Tesla 3, and the Y looks worse, so it was a no brainer for me to choose the VW.

Silent Running

Silent Running wrote: »

But what if buyers prefer this car to a Tesla Y or 3? Not everyone buys into the idea that Tesla will always be the first choice.

I could have bought a 3LR instead of the VW ID.3 Tour, but I don't like the body style or looks of the Tesla 3, and the Y looks worse, so it was a no brainer for me to choose the VW.

I prefer interior as I sit in it not outside looking at it all day so exterior is less important to me.

But I agree, the M3 isn't the nicest thing and the front end reminds me of the MK I Leaf.

Silent Running

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I prefer interior as I sit in it not outside looking at it all day so exterior is less important to me.

But I agree, the M3 isn't the nicest thing and the front end reminds me of the MK I Leaf.

Well, obviously. You went from a mark 1 Leaf to an I3, right? :D

Silent Running

Silent Running wrote: »

Well, obviously. You went from a mark 1 Leaf to an I3, right? :D

i3 is better looking than the MK I Leaf for sure :P

latency89

slave1 wrote: »

I pity this car if it prices itself alongside the Model Y (Model 3 even)

You'd want to be getting the LR 87kWh Ariya for TMY alright money

Don't know what Nissan are thinking

The market want's a no frills 60kWh Qashqai type car for €35,000, even VW see that with ID3

No one want's a 4WD, 300bhp, Nissan SUV for €57,000

latency89

latency89 wrote: »

You'd want to be getting the LR 87kWh Ariya for TMY alright money

Don't know what Nissan are thinking

The market want's a no frills 60kWh Qashqai type car for €35,000, even VW see that with ID3

No one want's a 4WD, 300bhp, Nissan SUV for €57,000

They probably made this car in the hopes it will sell in low volumes, they could be struggling to meet demand for batteries.

I agree, a cheap qashqai would be much better but they chose Petrol power for this, it would have been so much better if it had a 40 Kwh battery and a smaller Petrol engine for backup but not being able to plug in at all is pretty ridiculous considering it's 10 years since the release of the Leaf, they should have another 2 cheaper electric models by now but probably battery supply is the real issue.

latency89

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They probably made this car in the hopes it will sell in low volumes, they could be struggling to meet demand for batteries.

I agree, a cheap qashqai would be much better but they chose Petrol power for this, it would have been so much better if it had a 40 Kwh battery and a smaller Petrol engine for backup but not being able to plug in at all is pretty ridiculous considering it's 10 years since the release of the Leaf, they should have another 2 cheaper electric models by now but probably battery supply is the real issue.

Yeah absolute rubbish

Nissan won't be around in 10 year's like many others

latency89

latency89 wrote: »

Yeah absolute rubbish

Nissan won't be around in 10 year's like many others

Huh ?

Busman Paddy Lasty

They may be in a financially bad position now. Will try and find the article, they're reducing their line up worldwide because of losses and their forecasts were poor.

On the Ariya it looks gorgeous and hi tech but if the 63kWh does indeed have a WLTP of 380km they'll have problems shifting them.

latency89

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Huh ?

Falling apart since they tried to sentence Ghosn to life imprisonment, with no trial :pac:

Going nowhere fast like Ford

latency89

latency89 wrote: »

Falling apart since they tried to sentence Ghosn to life imprisonment, with no trial :pac:

Going nowhere fast like Ford

I wonder if any of the allegations are true ? A company will go to extraordinary lengths to fire someone and use all their resources to gather "evidence/manufacture"

latency89

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I wonder if any of the allegations are true ? A company will go to extraordinary lengths to fire someone and use all their resources to gather "evidence/manufacture"

I’m not certain which side I align with,the story is absolutely bananas, he and his family’s treatment seemed very extreme for the charges, 144 days in solitary confinement, no trial till 2021 at the least, can’t speak with his wife,100% conviction rates for corporate prosecutors.

The chance of Ghosn getting a fair trial in Japan were zero.He was smart to flee and would make a great movie :pac:(because Japan doesn't believe in ankle monitors lol)

No question that Ghosn was guilty of these charges though, France are trying to get him for stealing from Renault too

JohnC.

latency89 wrote: »

I’m not certain which side I align with,the story is absolutely bananas, he and his family’s treatment seemed very extreme for the charges, 144 days in solitary confinement, no trial till 2021 at the least, can’t speak with his wife,100% conviction rates for corporate prosecutors.

The chance of Ghosn getting a fair trial in Japan were zero.He was smart to flee and would make a great movie :pac:(because Japan doesn't believe in ankle monitors lol)

No question that Ghosn was guilty of these charges though, France are trying to get him for stealing from Renault too

The thing is Japan tends to not prosecute unless they are very sure of winning. That's why the conviction rate is so high (not just for corporate stuff). If there's much chance of not winning, they tend to drop the case. It's not a case of unfair trials, just a case of them being sure of winning if they decide to go to trial.

80sDiesel

Looks fab in Aurora green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ELxfYmORQ

It's a lot nicer interior than the VW id range, in my opinion of course, it makes me wonder how in the hell VW decided to go so cheap on the interior ?

I bet this version of the Ariya would cost probably 60k.

Black_Knight

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It's a lot nicer interior than the VW id range, in my opinion of course, it makes me wonder how in the hell VW decided to go so cheap on the interior ?

I bet this version of the Ariya would cost probably 60k.

That's it. See what the 40k option looks like inside. Though the 58k for the id4 max and no fancier interior is probably just cause for a moan. Enyaq probably does better if you want fancy and didn't mind throwing money at a car.

cannco253

Nissan's Ariya electric SUV sales delayed due to COVID-19, chip shortage

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/nissans-ariya-electric-suv-sales-delayed-due-covid-19-chip-shortage-2021-06-04/

RainInSummer

Any more updates on this? I think at this stage it's up between this and the EV6 for me. I kind of like the Nissan interior better, especially in the lighter interior.

80sDiesel

They are available in Japan to order ( limited spec model) for delivery end of year. Should be on sale here early next year.

RainInSummer

Cheers.

80sDiesel

Norway has opened orders for the Ariya. 4 versions. Prices are on the site. Anyone know how they would translate to Ireland.

RainInSummer

Take your worst estimate and add 15% to it I guess. They'll be expensive!

Surprised to see them up for sale. I assumed the delays would only get worse.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117343178#Comment_117343178

Won't last long hopefully

drumm23

looks well

it's interesting to see that, driven by aerodynamic requirements with respect to range, we are seeing a real confluence of designs

I suspect this will see a leveling out of premium brands vs non premium

80sDiesel

For sure. Will put down a deposit on awd long range in Aurora green with blue leather. May even go for the performance depending on price.

RainInSummer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117872139#Comment_117872139

Are you sure you'll have a choice of interior?

80sDiesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117874092#Comment_117874092

Not on 63kWh but black/grey/blue on 87 non performance. Norwegian specs so probably same here. ( blue is leather, black/grey fabric)

RainInSummer

Cool. Must take a look.

RainInSummer

The second from top tier one with 20" wheels and light grey interior is coming in at €55k.

87kWh AWD. Kind of what I guessed for Ireland. Am very curious to see what it'll land on these shores for.

I'm kind of torn between this and the EV6. I have this feeling that the looks of the Ariya will grow on you, whereas the EV6 will date rapidly.

celtic_oz

Not sure I agree with this .. but worth considering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EpNIRZIKzM

RainInSummer

Good deep dive on the interior. It's in Japanese but pictures speak louder than words:

https://youtu.be/raGqyYcDIc8

daheff

I see the Ariya is now being advertised for an April 22 release.

Very disappointing as it was originally advertised as end 2021.

I understand the chip shortage issue, but hopefully Nissan use the time to make sure there's no glitches with it like ID ranges

RainInSummer

Yeah. For me it's probably the pick of the lot between the Ioniq 5, EV6 and this.

From an immediate first look the EV6 is better looking, but I just feel it'll date so quickly.

Still wonder how Nissan conspire to get less range from their batteries though. It's quite an achievement for a front runner in the field of EVs.

slave1

They were the fore runner for sure but never front runner in terms of efficiency, Leaf was/is poor efficiency versus newer lads

DaveByDavid

Just came across this car today, shame it's not available for delivery until April 2022.

It feels like the closest dash to the Ioniq 5, but in a more typical SUV style.

The VW ID4 was nice enough to drive but getting used to the dash after driving an Ioniq 5 was always going to be difficult.

80sDiesel

They are converting the factory to fully automated for the Ariya which probably explains the delay. Qualify should be excellent though.

https://youtu.be/ooFrWpxztOk

RainInSummer

The Norwegian site is stating Summer 2022 for deliveries.

For me the Ariya was the pick of the new bunch, I do worry about a 2020 car arriving in 2022 though. My PCP is due up in 2023, was hoping to see the Ariya out in the wild for a couple of years before making my choice concrete.

Price on the top end model in Norway translates to €58,000, with the entry level one about €41,000. I know you can't directly compare due to differing tax regimes but it might provide a general ball park.

Quick edit: It always amazes me how Nissan conspire to get the least amount of range out of their batteries.

RainInSummer

US spec and pricing up. Late 2022 delivery dates. I think this could knacker Nissan.

80sDiesel

From what I read this Ariya is a quality product. From construction to tech. The materials are supposed to be first class. This all costs money.

slave1

Nissan just slow, they let a lot of competition onto the scene in the Leaf to Ariya gap

RainInSummer

They were slow and then this delay on top of that. There's too many strong offerings out there now.

The Ariya might be quality, but there's no shortage of that about. And you can buy it now.

RainInSummer

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/nissan-ariya/108208/new-2021-nissan-ariya-electric-crossover-sale-ps41845

Order books open in the UK. Delivery summer 2022. Starting at just under £42k and rising to £58k for the top of the line model.

Straight currency exchange would see that at €48k to €68k here.

80sDiesel

It’s expensive but the interior quality is premium .

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/18/nissan-ariya-interior/