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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Panda5000 wrote: »
    Parking fees are a huge chunk of the councils income.
    Define "huge chunk"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    Their 2020 budget has €4.5 million income for "Car Parking" from a total income of €99.7 million. So about 4.5%.

    Fair enough maybe not "huge" to some but 4.5% of such a big budget is a sizeable wedge to let go of.

    It's more interesting when you look at the "Road Transport & Safety" division where parking is accounted for. It makes up nearly 50% of the income and balances against 30% of the expenditure.

    I'm not sure how funding in each division is ring fenced but if that division cuts 50% of it's annual funding and wants funding for modern urban streetscapes I imagine they'll have an uphill struggle!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Panda5000 wrote: »
    Their 2020 budget has €4.5 million income for "Car Parking" from a total income of €99.7 million. So about 4.5%.

    Fair enough maybe not "huge" to some but 4.5% of such a big budget is a sizeable wedge to let go of.
    True - but its there "own" money - it aint been sent down from Dublin which makes up majority of the budget, even the LPT is not collected locally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    They also spent €9 million on funding for the "Arts" - so if they lose their car park piggybank there is room in the budget for cuts alright.
    Council piss away money on the likes of Galway2020 and Palas in the past, the arts budget hasn't exactly been value for money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    timmyntc wrote: »
    They also spent €9 million on funding for the "Arts" - so if they lose their car park piggybank there is room in the budget for cuts alright.
    Council piss away money on the likes of Galway2020 and Palas in the past, the arts budget hasn't exactly been value for money.

    Yeah the arts had a boom year 🙄 let's cut its budget in half. Ffs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    timmyntc wrote: »
    They also spent €9 million on funding for the "Arts" - so if they lose their car park piggybank there is room in the budget for cuts alright.
    Council piss away money on the likes of Galway2020 and Palas in the past, the arts budget hasn't exactly been value for money.

    Neither of those came out of the regular arts budget. Artists had to seriously petition for arts funding (which were applied for in February and only released recently. For reference, almost every other county had funding released / allocated by the beginning of lockdown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,904 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    timmyntc wrote: »
    They also spent €9 million on funding for the "Arts" - so if they lose their car park piggybank there is room in the budget for cuts alright.
    Council piss away money on the likes of Galway2020 and Palas in the past, the arts budget hasn't exactly been value for money.

    They should be able to make some great cuts in the recreation budget too: shure with the Covid none of the contact sports teams are able to play, so there's no need to be maintaining grounds or giving them any grants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    zell12 wrote: »
    Right turn lane from courthouse to Francis St is now painted red and marked 'bus lane'
    They finally put up signage there, still being ignored
    UPXZSWF.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    zell12 wrote: »
    They finally put up signage there, still being ignored
    UPXZSWF.png

    Just buses? I guess eventually they could make it such that ONLY bus can trigger a Green Right Arrow Light? Imagine the "Sophisticated Urban Traffic Light Management System" could do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Just buses? I guess eventually they could make it such that ONLY bus can trigger a Green Right Arrow Light? Imagine the "Sophisticated Urban Traffic Light Management System" could do that.

    Can't wait until a car gets stuck waiting in the turn right lane forever!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Can't wait until a car gets stuck waiting in the turn right lane forever!

    Would not be that long as will have regular buses using this right turn would have to activate the light to keep to the timetable, the bus drivers would need a BUS Camera system though to report indiscretions. This is used in UK in London by TFL.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    2 bits of traffic related news
    Main works contract for Headford Road’s Kirwan roundabout to be awarded this month

    https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/main-works-contract-for-headford-roads-kirwan-roundabout-to-be-awarded-this-month/

    The main works contract on a major redevelopment of the Kirwan roundabout on the city’s Headford road, near the Menlo Park Hotel, is expected to be awarded this month.

    This is subject to change depending on the level of COVID 19 restrictions which may impact on the commencement of construction.

    The multi-million euro project will see the current five-arm roundabout transformed into a four-arm traffic light junction.

    Its aim is to improve traffic flow, reduce congestion at peak times and offer increased safety to pedestrians and cyclists.

    Previous estimates stated that around 40 thousand vehicles pass through the Kirwan roundabout every day between the hours of 7am and 7pm.
    Calls for city council to provide bike repair and pump stations across Galway

    https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/calls-for-city-council-to-provide-bike-repair-and-pump-stations-across-galway/

    There are calls for Galway City Council to provide bike repair and pump stations across the city.

    Fianna Fail councillor Alan Cheevers says the local authority should provide the free service equipment as part of plans to enhance cycling infrastructure.

    It comes as new cycle lanes are coming on stream at several locations across the city as part of measures to adapt to changing travel patterns caused by COVID-19.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭obi604


    Was there some event on in Galway around the claddagh. Got caught in traffic around there but managed to do a u turn and get out of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    obi604 wrote: »
    Was there some event on in Galway around the claddagh. Got caught in traffic around there but managed to do a u turn and get out of it.
    They were doing something for Martin and Tom Oliver.



    Details here: https://www.facebook.com/galwayhookersailingclub


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,904 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    obi604 wrote: »
    Was there some event on in Galway around the claddagh. Got caught in traffic around there but managed to do a u turn and get out of it.

    Funeral


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    It comes as new cycle lanes are coming on stream at several locations across the city as part of measures to adapt to changing travel patterns caused by COVID-19.

    Where are the new cycle lanes?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Panda5000 wrote: »
    Where are the new cycle lanes?

    That's an excellent question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    Credit where credit is due... the council have done a lovely job at resurfacing the cycle lanes over "the bridge" and up Bother na dTreabh, was badly needed in parts. Hopefully they're maintained now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭Laviski


    Let's see if they get the use.... The excuse of it being rubbish is now gone away with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Laviski wrote: »
    Let's see if they get the use.... The excuse of it being rubbish is now gone away with.

    Last time I used them they either ended in railings or dumped you dangerously onto a junction. Doubt the new surface fixed that!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Laviski wrote: »
    Let's see if they get the use.... The excuse of it being rubbish is now gone away with.

    Unless the resurfacing also put in proper rights of way at the massive roundabouts and trunk junctions I'd say cyclists should continue to steer clear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    Laviski wrote: »
    Let's see if they get the use.... The excuse of it being rubbish is now gone away with.

    Well they're not really ready for use yet - need to be linked up. Hopefully that'll happen and the smooth new surface will get great use.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭Laviski


    When you get to junctions you can dismount and cross like pedestrians.
    Something like the signage at railway crossing but for cyclist rules or signage of what they should do doesn't apply to them. Let alone think they could have some commen sense, everything got to spelt out to them with red carpet invitation..... At that they still probably ignore it cause of lack of enforcement on cyclist all the while motorist pays.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Laviski wrote: »
    When you get to junctions you can dismount and cross like pedestrians.
    Something like the signage at railway crossing but for cyclist rules or signage of what they should do doesn't apply to them. Let alone think they could have some commen sense, everything got to spelt out to them with red carpet invitation..... At that they still probably ignore it cause of lack of enforcement on cyclist all the while motorist pays.

    I'll do that on my bike if you turn off your engine and get out and push your car as you go through each junction.

    It's the same logic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    Laviski wrote: »
    When you get to junctions you can dismount and cross like pedestrians.

    So your solution to safe cycling is not cycling?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭ratracer


    I was wondering when the circle would start again....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Laviski wrote: »
    When you get to junctions you can dismount and cross like pedestrians.
    Something like the signage at railway crossing but for cyclist rules or signage of what they should do doesn't apply to them. Let alone think they could have some commen sense, everything got to spelt out to them with red carpet invitation..... At that they still probably ignore it cause of lack of enforcement on cyclist all the while motorist pays.

    If motorists weren't massively subsidised we may well have decent cycling infrastructure (where people on bikes aren't forced to stop, get off, and join pedestrians waiting eternities to crossing a f8cking road) and much better road infrastructure in cities such as Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭Laviski


    should have told the council to not bother then, money could be used for homeless services.
    motorists pay motor tax (depending on old you are some say this is to pay for road and water), each registered vehicle has a reg plate identifiable for breaches of of road traffic act. i could go on but these two points alone cyclist bring nothing but complaints, just basically saying thanks for the infra but we still ain't gonna use it.

    you still have those people going around in bikes taking photo's/recording of motorists but they equally breaks more rules of the road and don't use the infra that is provided to them someone how they still think they have a right to complain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Laviski wrote: »
    should have told the council to not bother then, money could be used for homeless services.
    motorists pay motor tax (depending on old you are some say this is to pay for road and water), each registered vehicle has a reg plate identifiable for breaches of of road traffic act. i could go on but these two points alone cyclist bring nothing but complaints, just basically saying thanks for the infra but we still ain't gonna use it.

    you still have those people going around in bikes taking photo's/recording of motorists but they equally breaks more rules of the road and don't use the infra that is provided to them someone how they still think they have a right to complain.

    You are calling for pedestrians and cyclists to basically pay for the road wear and congestion caused by driving cars. everything else in this country (other than the likes of water and health) is pay as you consume.

    Cycling infrastructure and footpaths are as cheap as chips and demonstrably allow children to once again safely cycle to school - a major cause of congestion at the moment. Drivers have no interest in actually getting anywhere more quickly, unless it costs billions.

    The rules of the road are in large part designed to manage the problems arising from traffic and speed. Pedestrians and cyclists do not need traffic lights, yellow boxes, double yellow lines, overpasses, turning lanes, speed bumps, traffic calming, roundabouts, etc to get where they're going efficiently and cheaply. I see every day cyclists and pedestrians ignoring red lights and, guess what, nothing happens other than snowflake drivers getting their knickers in a twist. you would just love for all of us to pay more, reduce the number of cyclists and make traffic in Galway even worse.

    Galway allocates space to the least efficient mode and if decent public transport and efficent private transport (bicycles, motorbikes, for instance) were prioritised, car traffic would remain the same but commutes would finally be palatable.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭Laviski


    donvito99 wrote: »
    You are calling for pedestrians and cyclists to basically pay for the road wear and congestion caused by driving cars. everything else in this country (other than the likes of water and health) is pay as you consume.

    Cycling infrastructure and footpaths are as cheap as chips and demonstrably allow children to once again safely cycle to school - a major cause of congestion at the moment. Drivers have no interest in actually getting anywhere more quickly, unless it costs billions.

    The rules of the road are in large part designed to manage the problems arising from traffic and speed. Pedestrians and cyclists do not need traffic lights, yellow boxes, double yellow lines, overpasses, turning lanes, speed bumps, traffic calming, roundabouts, etc to get where they're going efficiently and cheaply. I see every day cyclists and pedestrians ignoring red lights and, guess what, nothing happens other than snowflake drivers getting their knickers in a twist. you would just love for all of us to pay more, reduce the number of cyclists and make traffic in Galway even worse.

    Galway allocates space to the least efficient mode and if decent public transport and efficent private transport (bicycles, motorbikes, for instance) were prioritised, car traffic would remain the same but commutes would finally be palatable.

    no i'm not.
    i am asking that when infrastructure is provided that cyclist use it ( i am also a cyclist as well and use the sections recently resurfaced).

    Be grateful of whats provided and by all means continue to ask for more, but at least use what is provided for the intention it was given.

    Bringing back the quotes for reference.
    Well they're not really ready for use yet - need to be linked up. Hopefully that'll happen and the smooth new surface will get great use.
    Unless the resurfacing also put in proper rights of way at the massive roundabouts and trunk junctions I'd say cyclists should continue to steer clear.

    complete self-centered cyclists at its best. continue to put themselves in danger intentionally just because some other countries have better infra for cyclists and want a complete infra first before using so until them continue to blame motorists that they perceive puts them in danger.

    Also i have said before priority should be made for PT for galway.
    further more i do not have an engine to turn off.


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