Galway traffic

woot!

cosatron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119743502#Comment_119743502

whatever about the ring road but i hope this happens. he is insufferable

?Cee?view

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119743271#Comment_119743271

She's nailed a coffin in whatever career she had in politics. She won't even get 77 Seanad votes next time.

Hard to see how any of the active travel plans can go ahead now as well as they're mostly contingent on the Road going ahead to free up space for them. Encouraging to see the the two Councils and TII issuing their positive statement.

Larbre34

As soon as the Greens are out of Government, the Climate Action Plan must be amended to reflect the economic need for this bypass and have it built.

Its absolutely necessary for the future efficient movement of people and goods that do not need to be in Galway City and it is what the majority of people of Galway City also strongly want.

It will be built, 100%, all that setbacks like today do is increase the ultimate cost and that's in nobody's interest.

I would also expect an early move from the Galway representatives of serious political parties to make this project fit the existing Climate Plan as soon as possible.

McGrath5

Well that's a result, hopefully this piece of car centric planning goes in the bin and doesn't rear its head again. Galway has plenty of roads, what's there already needs to be used more efficiently through reassigning space to public transport and active travel.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744661#Comment_119744661

Nope, all measures in the GTS were scheduled to be in place prior to the GRCC being opened.

At no point, from anyone, in any document or report, were the GTS active travel measures made contingent on the GRCC.

now Galway City just needs to forget about this road and get serious about alternatives

• P&R's on all approach roads
• Full network of Protected bike lanes
• Full network of bus lanes
• Bus priority measures on all junctions used by buses
• All bus routes running on less than 10 minutes frequency from 6am to midnight
• Dutch junction design for cyclists and pedestrians
• Commuter rail every 20 mins

That's just for a start

Larbre34

No DaCor, your naive list there does nothing to address extraneous traffic.

This road is very much about keeping those vehicles out of Galway City that do not need to be there and is vital to the economic future of Connemara and Galway and Mayo generally.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744704#Comment_119744704

You're talking about 3% of the traffic. Building a billion+ road to cater for that is moronic.

But it doesn't matter as you're incorrect, the road was intended as a distributor ring road not a bypass

Larbre34

I think the business community in Galway will be comforted by this immediate commitment to delivery. With TIIs track record down the years, not least when I was on the staff myself, I think this road will be delivered with very little delay.

Cluedo Monopoly

What an absolute disaster. Galway will grind to a halt for hours in the day. Muppets.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744748#Comment_119744748

With TIIs track record down the years, not least when I was on the staff myself, I think this road will be delivered with very little delay.

Any day now, 3rd times the charm or is it 3rd decade?

ben.schlomo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744748#Comment_119744748

Very little delay? You have been following the progress (or lack thereof) yes?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744858#Comment_119744858

Indeed, after the first go was killed in the courts in 2013 GCC and the govt said no resource would be spared in getting a new application in asap...... still took a decade.

The next one will be the same, won't be decided until the end of the 2030's and won't open until the mid to late 2040's.... if at all

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744858#Comment_119744858

Yes. Very little.

Don't get too upset over it.

Honestly, the timing of this couldn't be better for the city. The GTS review is due to kick off shortly and if previous reviews in other cities are anything to go by, the GCRR will be separated from the GTS entirely so that the GTS will have to be massively beefed up to meet its goals.

New roads for car traffic don't seem to be an acceptable way to address traffic problems and this is being reflected in the changes in these plans.

deirdremf

This is in a way fascinating. There seems to be a huge lobby against necessary development in Galway county and city.

The roads west from Galway, the alternative to the Cois Fharraige ribbon and the improvements to the N59 as well as this ring road have been blocked every step of the way. Not for years, but for decades now.

Galway seems to suffer from D4-itis in a major way. The city business and middle classes have their motorways to Tuam, Dublin and Limerick, and they have decided that Conamara is to be their pristine playground, not to be spoiled by development of any sort. It looks like what the D$ crowd, sorry D4 crowd, want for Ireland, but on a more localised scale. The hicks and hillbillies don't need roads cos they aren't real people, they are only there to cater for the whims of Dublin/Galway's well-off.

rustyfrog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119744670#Comment_119744670

"As soon as the Greens are out of Government, the Climate Action Plan must be amended to reflect the economic need for this bypass and have it built."

I think the days of paying lip service to climate policies is hopefully behind us. That plan was from 3 parties, none of which are likely to form the next (SF) government but I think climate policies are only going to get tighter as the years tick on.

Juran

We were thinking about moving abroad, as we both work from home 3 days a week, we live in west Galway area, but the traffic really affects us. This disappointing news today, is making the decision easy now. I can't see us staying here knowing that Galway city& Connemara,'s transport problems are being neglected, and that our planning system is not fit for purpose.

The Rosaveel port expansion depended on this outser bypass. Surely this project cant now go ahead with the 500 year old boreen of a road from galway docks out through Barna, Fubro, Spiddal, Inverin to Rosaveel.

Its a dark day for Galway west.

Larbre34

It certainly is.

But please, don't loose hope, those who care deeply about the future prosperity of Galway City and Connemara will be redoubling their efforts now to get this delivered as quickly as the law will allow.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119745113#Comment_119745113

And how do you suppose Sinn Féin will be able to form a Government in 2025 without either FF and FG in 2025?

I didn't mention the Greens as I expect them to be gone from the Dáil.

In any case, SF would build the GCRR.

drserious4

Would SF build it? Which of their representatives said that?

BagofWeed

In my opinion this country won't progress until a majority of politicians and civil servants are of immigrant or of immigrant descent as increasingly the small minded parochial **** everyone else Irish nimby mindset is stalling progress and development. All our countries large problems are stemming from it. They can't torment the majority from their peado Catholic pulpit anymore so it's done now through objecting to everything.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119745489#Comment_119745489

None that I am aware of.

But considering they've had a Damascene conversion to abandon Marxist socialism and Euroscepticism for the sake of votes, they'll commit to it. A dead cert.

That's disappointing.

Hope they go with some sort of light rail system, with more than one line so.

There needs to be a way for a family, to travel across the city 15kms, in less than the 30 minutes it generally takes at the moment.

If someone can propose a workable solution, in place of a ring road, I'd love to hear of it.

Larbre34

You can't put lorries on a tram.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119745534#Comment_119745534

You must surely be joking! If the shinners do manage to get into government, by the time they've spent all available money on their pet projects and schema to buy a border poll, there'll be none left for Galway. Maybe if it was nearer the border.

Larbre34

Look, the current Government will commit to it. The Shinners would want a very bloody good reason to stop a well advanced project without the blame for millions in wasted advanced work being laid at their door.

Assuming they do get into Government in 2.5 years time, they have never been in Government before and have a massive learning curve in front of them and so will interfere as little as possible with projects that cause them no bother.

Sure Mary Lou will probably cut the auld ribbon with the gigantic green scissors.

Homelander

Sean Kyne reactions with disappointment in first interview, Pauline O' Reilly is delighted in the second.

https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-2fppz-12ea622

https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9n82r-12ea9d3

Bit crazy that in 2022, Galway is still years away from a bypass (if it ever happens), still no Park and Ride in sight, total lack of cycling infrastructure, weak public transport options, etc.

Where does the blame ultimately lie here? It's easy to point fingers at politicians and councillors or whatever, but really this is all on the transport section at Galway City Council surely? How have they been talking about Park and Ride for 20+ years and still absolutely nothing happening.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119745113#Comment_119745113

Fyi, SF fully supported and voted for, the climate action plan and all that it entails

I'd say a train to Kiltimagh is more likely to be delivered by Sinn Féin than a ring road.

Is this a well advanced project?

Does it have to go back to square one again.

Trams or bus corridors from Furbo to Loughgeorge, Moycullen to Oranmore with park and rides will get people out of their cars and leave the roads to the trucks and tradesmen.