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Cross St... Good Idea making temp to start... Try stuff out before we lock in...
Before even starting I could never understand parking on Ellington St.
I have various thoughts about Ellington St., if you make it fully Predsetrian, it could become a market area but I think the city would really be enhanced by a English Market type facility (very common on continent and really attracts footfall)...
It wont be fully pedestrainised but will be closed to private cars. Only buses, cyclists and pedestrians will be allowed down it. Not sure about taxis. I think they will be allowed, but not sure. I'm guessing Woodquay will eventually be pedestrianised and markets etc added there
It forms part of the "Cross-City Link" route.The Cross-City Link consists of a central corridor traversing the core city area, which will be restricted to use by public transport vechiles, pedestrians, cyclists and local access only. It will enable efficent and reliable public transport to and through the city center from University Road, across Salmon Weir Bridge, along Eglinton Street, around Eyre Square and along Forester Street and College Road.
This link route, combined with the existing bus lanes, below, should see HUGE improvements in the travel times, frequency and reliability of bus routes around Galway city. Simply put, its frikkin awesome if you are a pedestrian, cyclist, bus or taxi user.
That being said, the bus priority network will still need a lot of work following this to add similar priority measures to other routes, not just those using Seamus Quirke & Dublin roads0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »It wont be fully pedestrainised but will be closed to private cars. Only buses, cyclists and pedestrians will be allowed down it. Not sure about taxis. I think they will be allowed, but not sure. I'm guessing Woodquay will eventually be pedestrianised and markets etc added there
It forms part of the "Cross-City Link" route.
This link route, combined with the existing bus lanes, below, should see HUGE improvements in the travel times, frequency and reliability of bus routes around Galway city. Simply put, its frikkin awesome if you are a pedestrian, cyclist, bus or taxi user.
That being said, the bus priority network will still need a lot of work following this to add similar priority measures to other routes, not just those using Seamus Quirke & Dublin roads
The way I look at it... Trial it... Should not be permanent unless a major increase in PT/cycling usage...
Here is a question... Has Bus routes and timetables been beefed up to be able to take this traffic...
Is there one bus to get on to in Knocknacarra and stay on and arrive in Ballybrit or parkmore?
Will this make bus lanes carry more people than car lanes in peak hours?
I wish the answer is YES to all these. This would mean a improvement in the quality of life of Galway people but taking these roads and not using them properly is a waste. At the moment Westside's extra lane is a waste, hopefully this makes this better.
The cycle lanes from Knocknacarra and Ballybrit would carry more if a car lane... Just look at the usage any fine morning never mind bad morning0 -
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The way I look at it... Trial it... Should not be permanent unless a major increase in PT/cycling usage...
You don't get that increase unless it becomes the norm, as illustrated by the Doughiska route which became one of BE's most profitable and highest grequency routes in the country following the provision of bus lanesHere is a question... Has Bus routes and timetables been beefed up to be able to take this traffic...
That comes after the infrastructure. It would be pointless to do so before handIs there one bus to get on to in Knocknacarra and stay on and arrive in Ballybrit or parkmore?
A route is planned once the infrastructure is completed, see the red route below
Knocknacarra - Salthill - City Center - Ballybrit - Parkmore Ind Est
Will this make bus lanes carry more people than car lanes in peak hours?
To be blunt, it depends on the frequency. As reported previously, bus usage increased by 50% or more due to the provision of bus priority infrastructure. As more infrastructure is provided it allows for higher frequency routes to the point where the time table becomes meaningless i.e. sub 10 minute frequencyOnly 10% of Galway City’s roads are dedicated bus lanes, which is causing a “serious deterioration” in Bus Éireann’s ability to fulfil its timetables.
Regional Manager Brian Connolly said that the company had become a victim of its own success – it was now increasingly unable to meet a growing demand, as the necessary infrastructure is not being provided.
“There are constant improvements coming into the network but, without priority measures, we are in danger of just having an increased level of resources caught up in the same traffic,” he said.I wish the answer is YES to all these. This would mean a improvement in the quality of life of Galway people but taking these roads and not using them properly is a waste. At the moment Westside's extra lane is a waste, hopefully this makes this better.
The cycle lanes from Knocknacarra and Ballybrit would carry more if a car lane... Just look at the usage any fine morning never mind bad morning
Excuse me, taking these roads? From who? From the least efficient form of transport to vastly more efficient forms.
The reason it looks empty to you when you are sitting there stuck in traffic is due to the fact the bus can breeze past with a load of passengers
Also the Seamus Quirke rd bus lane was a newly added lane. It never "took" anything away. What that development allowed for was- Maintained existing capacity but
- Added a bus lane
- Added a segregated cycle lane
- Added pedestrian crossings
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blueshark2 wrote: »"City officials urged to consult with Salthill traders over plan for cycling paths at Prom"
https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/city-officials-urged-to-consult-with-salthill-traders-over-plan-for-cycling-paths-at-prom/
Some of the old-school businesses in Salthill must think that a reduction in car parking spots will reduce their business.
I think they could be shooting themselves in the foot if they delay the cycle lane rollout, I'd say Salthill will absolutely thrive as a seaside village with a cycle lane connected to the city.
It will become a "to do" thing for city tourists, rent a bike a visit Salthill. A lot of Galway's big student population have bikes and no cars, they don't venture out to Salthill as much as they could.
It'll allow potential for much more people to stop at Salthill. If they keep car-focused their limited by parking near the village.
Try it for a while, if the road side parking is badly missed then mark the prom one-way for motorists, reinstate parking in the spare lane and maintain the cycle lane.
Saw this today, seems pretty apt
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Johnny_BravoIII wrote: »It would lead to more cyclists, who have wallets too.
Plus cyclists can have a pint with their dinner and (legally) cycle home.
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Johnny_BravoIII wrote: »It would lead to more cyclists, who have wallets too.
I doubt it will, people who would cycle there will cycle there regardless and far far more people will drive there with or without cycle lanes so you are risking cutting off your biggest source of customer if you discourage people driving there.
This is especially the case outside of holiday season - even on a wet winters day it can be tricky to get parking as it is, close to the restaurants in Salthill, so remove this parking and you will be putting off an awful lot of people coming to the area when there will be no/few people cycling. I know I will not be having lunch in salthill anymore if parking is not easy to get, its not feasible to go there. That's a nice chunk of money lost between a few of us having lunch, coffees etc.
You severely limit your catchment area also if you are relying on cyclists. people come from all over the county to salthill as mentioned in my previous post, most wont bother anymore if they aren't going to be able to get parking.blueshark2 wrote: »Plus cyclists can have a pint with their dinner and (legally) cycle home.
So can a motorist if they only have 1, legal limit is not zero.0
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