Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

Muahahaha

171170 wrote: »

And shameless Ratso Farrell lets the Insurance Industry have it between the eyes!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/insurance-sector-telling-us-porky-pies-for-quite-some-time-fine-gael-td-alan-farrell-38796987.html


Is there anything more revolting than a publicly exposed chancer trying to be sanctimonious?

"Man who benefited from insurance pay out critisises insurance pay outs".

He literally has no shame, FG are now looking very similar to FF in the dying days of the 2011 government. Lacking leadership and stumbling from scandal to scandal like a heavyweight boxer in the 12th round.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Another headache for working parents in the new year, the government sat on their hands despite representation made about the looming crisis.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/creches-affected-by-insurer-leaving-the-market-will-face-rises-in-the-region-of-100-971274.html

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

Muahahaha

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

Or maybe, just maybe (and this is a crazy idea I know) the government could regulate the insurance industry properly. They could even ask their own TDs to display a bit of integrity and honesty by not taking a 60k claim for falling off a swing or a 15k claim for a car tip that happened at 5 miles per hour.

salmocab

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

They’re not suing to ease their consciences they’re suing because of a ridiculous sense of entitlement

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

Or maybe, just maybe (and this is a crazy idea I know) the government could regulate the insurance industry properly. They could even ask their own TDs to display a bit of integrity and honesty by not taking a 60k claim for falling off a swing or a 15k claim for a car tip that happened at 5 miles per hour.

The first educators are the parents. No wonder the compo culture is out of control!

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

You blame Maria's parents?

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

Are you suggesting all the users of crèches are suing? Can you provide some figures please to back this up?
Motor insurance premiums have not fallen despite payouts having dropped. It was in the papers . Even Junior Minister Darcy has threatened a super tax if Motor insurance companies don't reduce their premiums.


https://amp.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/insurers-facing-super-tax-if-they-refuse-to-cut-premiums-38287137.html

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You blame Maria's parents?

If the cap fits......

K.Flyer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The first educators are the parents. No wonder the compo culture is out of control!

So what you're saying is that it was Maria Bailey's parents fault she tried to claim compo for falling off a swing..

171170

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

When you stoop to attacking the poster instead of the post it's easy to dismiss you.

A convenient cop out for a poster who has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to debate any topic rationally.

Plumbthedepths

171170 wrote: »

A convenient cop out for a poster who has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to debate any topic rationally.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Muahahaha

K.Flyer wrote: »

So what you're saying is that it was Maria Bailey's parents fault she tried to claim compo for falling off a swing..

Maybe Marias parents didnt teach her how to use a swing. She should probably have sued them too.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe if parents stopped easing their consciences by suing for every little mishap that befalls their little darlings, insurance costs would fall significantly.

This is, your very first post in the thread, and it's a "blame the parents" post.

This is a thread about a TD who tried to pull a fast one, along with her colleague in cabinet, and you're off with a blame the parents quip.

Absolutely shameless.

Snow Garden

Muahahaha wrote: »

Maybe Marias parents didnt teach her how to use a swing. She should probably have sued them too.

They might have taught her how to use a swing but unlikely that she was drunk and holding 2 bottles during her lessons.

McMurphy

Muahahaha wrote: »

Maybe Marias parents didnt teach her how to use a swing. She should probably have sued them too.

It's safe to say Maryanne didn't put too much thought into her post and what values parents instill in their children.

Not in Maria's case anyway, the Apple didn't fall far from the tree.

WishUWereHere

Anyone else listen to SOR show on Friday morning and in particular the last half hour ( The Gathering )? Madigan was on and I must say she came across as a very arrogant know all. Kept interrupting when anyone else said something. Hopefully, her ‘know it all’ attitude comes back and implodes in her face.

Sorry am writing this on a tablet, so cannot copy & paste the link, but i’m sure if you go to the RTE site there is a link there.

Edit: Now on my PC, so here is the link: https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21680604

WishUWereHere

Saw this this morning - not easy to digest. IF this is true, then another 5 years of being ripped off, fed bullsh1t, lied to, and insurance scammers by all and sundry to name but a few reasons that if this country EVER needed credible opposition, NOW IS THE TIME!!!

https://www.thejournal.ie/opinion-poll-fine-gael-and-fianna-fail-neck-and-neck-4945162-Dec2019/

Snow Garden

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Saw this this morning - not easy to digest. IF this is true, then another 5 years of being ripped off, fed bullsh1t, lied to, and insurance scammers by all and sundry to name but a few reasons that if this country EVER needed credible opposition, NOW IS THE TIME!!!

https://www.thejournal.ie/opinion-poll-fine-gael-and-fianna-fail-neck-and-neck-4945162-Dec2019/

The key difference is that Fine Gael will get hammered on transfers. They have their core vote but the lack of transfers will lose them seats in a big way. The insurance fraud and expense corruption will cost them in a big way.

Those gombeens in FF will need FG support to form a government and the electorate will learn how dysfunctional our political system is once more.

WishUWereHere

Snow Garden wrote: »

The key difference is that Fine Gael will get hammered on transfers. They have their core vote but the lack of transfers will lose them seats in a big way. The insurance fraud and expense corruption will cost them in a big way.

Those gombeens in FF will need FG support to form a government and the electorate will learn how dysfunctional our political system is once more.

Agreed. The thing that sickens me is that the so-called political party that brought this Country to its knees is neck & neck with the party that couldn’t organize sex in a brothel to be the MAIN party to govern us for the next 5 years.

God, help us!!!

Pintman Paddy Losty

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Agreed. The thing that sickens me is that the so-called political party that brought this Country to its knees is neck & neck with the party that couldn’t organize sex in a brothel to be the MAIN party to govern us for the next 5 years.

God, help us!!!

I know it sickens you WUWH, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The man who gets up early in the morning and works hard has a tendency to vote for centrist parties either slightly left (FF) or slightly right (FG). The weirdos and loons who take the cheap seats in the dáil (Socialists, ****ehawks and shinners) don't get much succor from Tom and Theresa Taxpayer I'm afraid.

Those parties would be better off coming up with palatable policies which are appealing to the majority of people. They might stand a chance then.

JohnnyFlash

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know it sickens you WUWH, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The man who gets up early in the morning and works hard has a tendency to vote for centrist parties either slightly left (FF) or slightly right (FG). The weirdos and loons who take the cheap seats in the dáil (Socialists, ****ehawks and shinners) don't get much succor from Tom and Theresa Taxpayer I'm afraid.

Those parties would be better off coming up with palatable policies which are appealing to the majority of people. They might stand a chance then.

It’s not exactly rocket science is it, Paddy? Welcome back btw.

The Republic of Ireland is less than 100 years old and we’ve gone from being the poorest country in Western Europe to one that the UN ranks as one of the best in the world to live in, the most educated workforce in Europe, a country with higher cancer survival rates than in places like the UK and Canada.

That stuff happened as a result of FF and FG governments. Tom and Teresa know that, and are also politically astute to know that while utopia doesn’t exist, they aren’t going to arrive there by voting for malcontents like Paul Murphy and Aengus Ó Snodaigh. FF and FG are the parties who represent the needs, desires and aspirations of the sort of Irishman who maintains a positive outlook on life.

Some of the regulars in the current affairs forum are some of the most politically unaware and deluded folks you’ll ever meet.

_Kaiser_

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know it sickens you WUWH, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The man who gets up early in the morning and works hard has a tendency to vote for centrist parties either slightly left (FF) or slightly right (FG). The weirdos and loons who take the cheap seats in the dáil (Socialists, ****ehawks and shinners) don't get much succor from Tom and Theresa Taxpayer I'm afraid.

Those parties would be better off coming up with palatable policies which are appealing to the majority of people. They might stand a chance then.

I never thought I'd see the day. A post from Paddy I agree with

Spot on though. The reality is that we are a two (maybe even one) party State. The less extremist alternatives tend to act as mudguards in coalitions, but no one wants the Alphabet soup left or SF at the wheel. They have uses in exposing things the big two would rather not be talked about, but that's about all.

There is definitely a market for a real alternative to the FF/FG merry go round alright, but given the way the system is setup and the costs involved it's highly unlikely to happen in any meaningful way Even parties like the Social Democrats (seen as some as the new hope) have ruined any real prospect of providing an alternative by running questionable candidates.

James Brown

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know it sickens you WUWH, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The man who gets up early in the morning and works hard has a tendency to vote for centrist parties either slightly left (FF) or slightly right (FG). The weirdos and loons who take the cheap seats in the dáil (Socialists, ****ehawks and shinners) don't get much succor from Tom and Theresa Taxpayer I'm afraid.

Those parties would be better off coming up with palatable policies which are appealing to the majority of people. They might stand a chance then.

TBF, the FG manifesto is generally full of yarns so selling policies and having ones they'll use are not the same thing. I mean who voted for record breaking numbers of children homeless?

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It’s not exactly rocket science is it, Paddy? Welcome back btw.

The Republic of Ireland is less than 100 years old and we’ve gone from being the poorest country in Western Europe to one that the UN ranks as one of the best in the world to live in, the most educated workforce in Europe, a country with higher cancer survival rates than in places like the UK and Canada.

That stuff happened as a result of FF and FG governments. Tom and Teresa know that, and are also politically astute to know that while utopia doesn’t exist, they aren’t going to arrive there by voting for malcontents like Paul Murphy and Aengus Ó Snodaigh. FF and FG are the parties who represent the needs, desires and aspirations of the sort of Irishman who maintains a positive outlook on life.

Some of the regulars in the current affairs forum are some of the most politically unaware and deluded folks you’ll ever meet.

The tax paying worker wants value for money not expecting a utopia. What part of the NCH over runs(), Dara 'two years two jobs and expenses' Murphy, homeless, housing and health crises did Tommy and Teresa sign up for? Another state contract for Denis O'Brien?

James Brown

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I never thought I'd see the day. A post from Paddy I agree with

Spot on though. The reality is that we are a two (maybe even one) party State. The less extremist alternatives tend to act as mudguards in coalitions, but no one wants the Alphabet soup left or SF at the wheel. They have uses in exposing things the big two would rather not be talked about, but that's about all.

There is definitely a market for a real alternative to the FF/FG merry go round alright, but given the way the system is setup and the costs involved it's highly unlikely to happen in any meaningful way Even parties like the Social Democrats (seen as some as the new hope) have ruined any real prospect of providing an alternative by running questionable candidates.

True. You've FG bringing FF to the power table rather than risk any other shower getting a look. They feed off each other. We'll always be stuck with one or the other.

JohnnyFlash

Matt Barrett wrote: »

True. You've FG bringing FF to the power table rather than risk any other shower getting a look. They feed off each other. We'll always be stuck with one or the other.

That’s democracy, Matt. Some of ye seem to get ratty about that. Don’t like that punters don’t vote for a bunch of lefties.

James Brown

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

That’s democracy, Matt. Some of ye seem to get ratty about that. Don’t like that punters don’t vote for a bunch of lefties.

Explaining the reality of being the assumed best of a bad lot. You seemed to be under the impression FG or FF are the go to for decent working people. Just setting you straight
Be FF's turn on top bunk next jant of Ireland's democratic merry-go-round. At least they'll likely build social housing instead of leasing off Michael Noonan's pals in the vulture community.

WishUWereHere

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know it sickens you WUWH, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The man who gets up early in the morning and works hard has a tendency to vote for centrist parties either slightly left (FF) or slightly right (FG). The weirdos and loons who take the cheap seats in the dáil (Socialists, ****ehawks and shinners) don't get much succor from Tom and Theresa Taxpayer I'm afraid.

Those parties would be better off coming up with palatable policies which are appealing to the majority of people. They might stand a chance then.

Welcome back pat. How was the sojourn?

Beasty

We have other threads where the relative merits of the main parties in the run up to the next election are being discussed - please keep this one to the Maria Bailey situation

WishUWereHere

Beasty wrote: »

We have other threads where the relative merits of the main parties in the run up to the next election are being discussed - please keep this one to the Maria Bailey situation

Nice avatar Beasty. Seasons greetings to You & all mods.

Pintman Paddy Losty

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Welcome back pat. How was the sojourn?

Howya WUWH. Thank you for the well wishes. My time in the clink was grim. Poor ablution facilities and sadistic goalers. I'm a free man now and going to keep my bib clean.