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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    _Brian wrote: »
    Would aN AD plant not be a good solution in any area like this ??

    There's an AD plant very close to the Courtmacsherry estuary but that has a continuous supply of pig slurry. Some messing trying to get rid of the digestate. We can get the pig slurry free to take away but they want us to pay for the digestate. At one stage last year they were begging lads to take it as they were full to the gills. A lot of farms here are in derogation anyway so not easy to get rid of locally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    There's an AD plant very close to the Courtmacsherry estuary but that has a continuous supply of pig slurry. Some messing trying to get rid of the digestate. We can get the pig slurry free to take away but they want us to pay for the digestate. At one stage last year they were begging lads to take it as they were full to the gills. A lot of farms here are in derogation anyway so not easy to get rid of locally.

    Ahh
    The old Irish thing of wanting their cake and eating it too.
    You’d think they would be glad to get rid of it consistently


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    alps wrote: »
    They don't...

    Farmers make a declaration when applying for a derogation that they have tanks of specific sizes and capacity..

    There is no defence for those who have given false declarations...

    Slurry storage was part and parcel of proper milk expansion, and more than derogation farmers are to blame here....only the derogation lads have signed the document.

    They do. We had a derogation inspection this year every tank, shed and open yard measured

    Edit: nitrate inspection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭White Clover


    I had a full cross compliance inspection the other day. They measured everything, tanks, lying areas/space per animal etc. You'd think they would know the lie of the land by now.
    Not in derogation here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭alps


    They do. We had a derogation inspection this year every tank, shed and open yard measured

    Edit: nitrate inspection

    Tanks are only measured during an inspection..

    They are not measured by the department so as to apply for a derogation. A farmer makes a declaration as tonthe size of the tanks..


    The answer to adequate storage should become apparent by this weekend as we head into a few dry days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    There's an AD plant very close to the Courtmacsherry estuary but that has a continuous supply of pig slurry. Some messing trying to get rid of the digestate. We can get the pig slurry free to take away but they want us to pay for the digestate. At one stage last year they were begging lads to take it as they were full to the gills. A lot of farms here are in derogation anyway so not easy to get rid of locally.

    I wonder what the likes of BNM are doing with all the stuff they are getting from Brown Bins around the country - surely using that and slurry instead of silage makes much more environmental sense than using producing silage for it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become

    There’s an awful lot of essentially gossiping by Agri media outlets about this poor family., it’s very bad taste.

    Didn’t see ETTG, must be on playback or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    whelan2 wrote: »
    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become

    I read it. I thought exactly the same. It was a bit raw to be commenting on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Tileman


    whelan2 wrote: »
    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become

    I’d disagree. I don’t particularly like him as a journalist but though the article was quite good. It’s was relevant as the draw of the land can bring out the worst in people. His family had to sell land and allot of people might carry a grudge but he was saying he has come to terms with it. Particularly relevant with what happened in cork recently. People should reflect on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    whelan2 wrote: »
    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become

    I presume it had to pass Margaret Donnelly, Editor. I didn't see the article being mentioned, but anything like that must be sensitive. Personally I'd be reluctant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    whelan2 wrote: »
    My dad was talking about Darraghs editorial or whatever in the farming independent the other day. I didnt read it but he was wondering does anyone proof read his articles before printing. It was a bit soon after the tragedy in cork to be commenting on it. Also my dad said paper never refused ink in relation to the rest of the article. It's a sad day if this is what agri journalism has become

    I saw that, disgraceful, they are hardly cold in their graves and he comes up with this story referring to the family, no bit of cop on whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Tileman wrote: »
    I’d disagree. I don’t particularly like him as a journalist but though the article was quite good. It’s was relevant as the draw of the land can bring out the worst in people. His family had to sell land and allot of people might carry a grudge but he was saying he has come to terms with it. Particularly relevant with what happened in cork recently. People should reflect on it.
    You have a point but no need to do it so soon after never mind giving reference to that family. There's a time and place for everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Both Darragh and Ella are convenors on the Farm Biodiversity Conference this week. Darragh was quite impressed with it last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Water John wrote: »
    Both Darragh and Ella are convenors on the Farm Biodiversity Conference this week. Darragh was quite impressed with it last year.

    John Gibbins is another one on the last day.
    Going by his temperment on Social Media, I don't know if the organisers are willing to sign off on a sour note or are hoping for a re education of dour John like Darragh last year.
    A truly despicable man.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    John Gibbins is another one on the last day.
    Going by his temperment on Social Media, I don't know if the organisers are willing to sign off on a sour note or are hoping for a re education of dour John like Darragh last year.
    A truly despicable man.

    A lot more scope to educate Darragh I'd say, I was there last year and saw the cogs turning.

    I was disappointed to see Gibbons listed tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    John Gibbins is another one on the last day.
    Going by his temperment on Social Media, I don't know if the organisers are willing to sign off on a sour note or are hoping for a re education of dour John like Darragh last year.
    A truly despicable man.

    John Gibbons???

    This is a serious misjudgment by the organisers. He would turn anybody off as soon as they’d see his name

    Bad mistake in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    A lot more scope to educate Darragh I'd say, I was there last year and saw the cogs turning.

    I was disappointed to see Gibbons listed tbh.

    I was there myself front and centre ..for the first day and saw the same.

    Gibbons is a bully. All about his own ego and profile.

    I blocked him ages ago.
    He's the one name on the ticket that would turn genuine farmers interested to learn, off registering in.
    He's a know all who knows nothing.
    He'll be a pompous cock on the close of day claiming he knew it all already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Panch18 wrote: »
    John Gibbons???

    This is a serious misjudgment by the organisers. He would turn anybody off as soon as they’d see his name

    Bad mistake in my opinion

    He's only on the last day. Supposed to be hosting the speakers.
    Those speakers are a thousand times the people he is.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was there myself front and centre ..for the first day and saw the same.

    Gibbons is a bully. All about his own ego and profile.

    I blocked him ages ago.
    He's the one name on the ticket that would turn genuine farmers interested to learn, off registering in.
    He's a know all who knows nothing.
    He'll be a pompous cock on the close of day claiming he knew it all already.

    Yeah, add to that there won't be a crowd like Darragh had either. I think that crowd effect was important too. It's easy to be shouty, but less so when a few hundred people in the same room are reacting enthusiastically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Yeah, add to that there won't be a crowd like Darragh had either. I think that crowd effect was important too. It's easy to be shouty, but less so when a few hundred people in the same room are reacting enthusiastically.

    I'd seriously actually be afraid he'd start arguing with every speaker on the day and explaining how they're wrong and he is right.
    There'll be digs thrown in for good measure too..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd seriously actually be afraid he'd start arguing with every speaker on the day and explaining how they're wrong and he is right.
    There'll be digs thrown in for good measure too..

    Hope someone has a mute button ready for the moderator :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭alps


    I'd seriously actually be afraid he'd start arguing with every speaker on the day and explaining how they're wrong and he is right.
    There'll be digs thrown in for good measure too..

    Speakers will e too good for him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    Water John wrote: »
    Both Darragh and Ella are convenors on the Farm Biodiversity Conference this week. Darragh was quite impressed with it last year.

    Is there a link for that? Would be interesting to tune in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Is there a link for that? Would be interesting to tune in.

    WJ means Biological.
    It's the Biological Farming Conference 2020.

    https://nots.ie/courses/biofarm-2020-online/

    Although both are not exclusive.
    And biodiversity below ground.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    WJ means Biological.
    It's the Biological Farming Conference 2020.

    https://nots.ie/courses/biofarm-2020-online/

    Although both are not exclusive.
    And biodiversity below ground.

    Would like to tune in to that too but 50 euro might be a bit steep for me.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would like to tune in to that too but 50 euro might be a bit steep for me.

    Tbh, it's a criminally low price for what will be available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭alps


    Exciting line up today..
    David Wallis who is exceptional and the world renound Allan Savory..

    Couldn't miss it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Panch18 wrote: »
    John Gibbons???

    This is a serious misjudgment by the organisers. He would turn anybody off as soon as they’d see his name

    Bad mistake in my opinion

    Absolute @rsehole that lad. Shouldn't be near anything farming related.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Tbh, it's a criminally low price for what will be available.

    Absolutely, the information given at it will be invaluable as far as I'm concerned. Haven't head much about this John Gibbons fella, looks like I'm better to avoid!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Has the Danu speaker frozen on anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Has the Danu speaker frozen on anyone else?

    No, a little bit of stuttering but it's still playing fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    endainoz wrote: »
    No, a little bit of stuttering but it's still playing fine.

    Feck sake I pressed stop and play and it's going again.
    Brilliant speaker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    Feck sake I pressed stop and play and it's going again.
    Brilliant speaker.

    Stick the coat hanger out the window Say my name, you'll get a better reception :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Feck sake I pressed stop and play and it's going again.
    Brilliant speaker.

    Yeah brilliant, it got a bit technical for my brain but very interesting. Surely Darragh will dumb it down for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Stick the coat hanger out the window Say my name, you'll get a better reception :D

    It might happen yet. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Stick the coat hanger out the window Say my name, you'll get a better reception :D

    What kind of coat hanger do you use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Balls its gone for everyone now. Hopefully these will be recorded for offline viewing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    What kind of coat hanger do you use?

    A wire one. I've a mobile broadband dongle at home and have to open the window and leave it out a slight bit. ( no joke )

    I was interested in looking at that bio farm thing but had a stupid course to do today with work and am working all week. Wouldn't mind i didn't learn anything related to my job today. Waste of a good day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭alps


    I've a lash of Muriet of Potash in the yard for spreading...what am I going to do with it..?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    alps wrote: »
    I've a lash of Muriet of Potash in the yard for spreading...what am I going to do with it..?

    I'll pm you the eircode of my outfarm. For a small fee I will take this contraband off your hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058130505/1/#post115236550

    Made a thread for bio farm itself if anyone want to discuss it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Wasnt too bad tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,777 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Wasnt too bad tonight

    The last segment was gas, the hippy dippy vibe, funny they didn't mention the fact 90% of the farm was converted to a large Greenfield dairy unit, green washing at its finest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    The last segment was gas, the hippy dippy vibe, funny they didn't mention the fact 90% of the farm was converted to a large Greenfield dairy unit, green washing at its finest

    Darraghs coat was ðŸ˜


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Darraghs coat was ðŸ˜

    The onion lad was good. Must have very good ground to grow them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Watching on plus 1 . The 2 vintage lads live not far from me. Some amount of kit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Looking forward too to the Sneem black pudding next week. This is a baked pudding rather than boiled TMK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Good piece on farmland birds - shows how simple low cost measures can recover their populations. Its a pity so much time and money has been wasted via REPS etc. by DAFM when simple commonsense measures in relation to hedges and headlands could make such a difference:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Think that's the type of thing the Bride Valley Project would be promoting.
    So their is no need to reinvent the wheel here. No need for another pilot.


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