First gaming pc

Jovem

Hi I'm 11 and I'm planning on building a gaming PC with my dad at Christmas our budget is 1000€ and we're looking for advice on which parts to use

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£93.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£88.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card (£379.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case (£63.75 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: RIOTORO ENIGMA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£58.46 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £860.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 12:52 GMT+0000

Consider waiting for Black Friday deals from 22. November.

Jovem

Thanks v much.

What OS should we get with this? Where should we get it? Bluetooth /WiFi included with this motherboard?

K.O.Kiki

OS: Download Windows 10 installation tool from Microsoft, install, select "Activate later".

Forgot about wi-fi - you can get cheap PCI cards but you're better off with a long ethernet cable, or PowerLine adapters, if you plan to play competitive online.

Jovem

Upgraded to same model with WiFi. Also bought Windows usb key. So, should be good to go. Thanks for your help

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

OS: Download Windows 10 installation tool from Microsoft, install, select "Activate later".

Forgot about wi-fi - you can get cheap PCI cards but you're better off with a long ethernet cable, or PowerLine adapters, if you plan to play competitive online.

Jovem

One final question; we've never built a PC before. Do we need any other tools / equipment to faciliate the build?

Philips head screwdriver, zip ties, anti static wrist band and take your time. Don't rush it.

Shiminay

Also, if something doesn't seem to fit, it's because 9 times out of 10, you're trying to put it in the wrong way, so take a look that you've definitely got everything lined up properly. Have fun with it

codie

Hi Lads, I'm in the same boat as OP. Young lad is 12, wants to get into gaming.
Have done very little research but what I have noticed is you have to pay out for your bang. The game he really wants to play is x plane 11 (he has a thing for planes) but I am sure he will broaden his horizons so to speak and get into more games.
I have never built a pc before but I know I probably would be able given the time,but thats fairly scarce these days and I don't want to spend whatever time I have off xmas stuck in a pc.
So how about this if any body can advise .

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fierce-RGB-Gaming-PC-Installed/dp/B07S42GQ7Z/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1OF9ANDDZN4CV&keywords=gaming+pc+bundle&qid=1575157063&sprefix=gaming+pc+%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-20

Thanks in advance.
It isn't much more cost wise than the self build one linked earlier.

asgaard

codie wrote: »

Hi Lads, I'm in the same boat as OP. Young lad is 12, wants to get into gaming.
Have done very little research but what I have noticed is you have to pay out for your bang. The game he really wants to play is x plane 11 (he has a thing for planes) but I am sure he will broaden his horizons so to speak and get into more games.
I have never built a pc before but I know I probably would be able given the time,but thats fairly scarce these days and I don't want to spend whatever time I have off xmas stuck in a pc.
So how about this if any body can advise .

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fierce-RGB-Gaming-PC-Installed/dp/B07S42GQ7Z/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1OF9ANDDZN4CV&keywords=gaming+pc+bundle&qid=1575157063&sprefix=gaming+pc+%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-20

Thanks in advance.
It isn't much more cost wise than the self build one linked earlier.

Seems OK.., but the price is high, correct me if I'm wrong. You might spend less build it up yourself. 480 GB ssd drive-that's not enough, it will be filled with junks to quick.

Homelander

The price is not bad considering it had windows 10, but better off to buy a better machine without windows and install yourself. Costs nothing to install from a usb stick and works forever without activation just fine.

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/gaming-pcs/elite-pro/ccl-elite-pro-gaming-pc/

That for example is better balanced, much better graphics card and very good quality ssd too (512gb is plenty) and costs less. Usually Intel is better for x-plane but open to correction on that, I'm sure a Ryzen processor would be fine.

codie

How about this one, can get in bricks and mortar.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-tornado-r5-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1660-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-120-gb-ssd-10195687-pdt.html

Similiar spec I think ,bigger hard drive.

Maybe ryzen 3600 better ?

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/4051vs4040

SweetCaliber

Homelander wrote: »

The price is not bad considering it had windows 10, but better off to buy a better machine without windows and install yourself. Costs nothing to install from a usb stick and works forever without activation just fine.

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/gaming-pcs/elite-pro/ccl-elite-pro-gaming-pc/

That for example is better balanced, much better graphics card and very good quality ssd too (512gb is plenty) and costs less. Usually Intel is better for x-plane but open to correction on that, I'm sure a Ryzen processor would be fine.

At the moment it's not amd vs Intel for xplane 11 it's amd vs nvidia. Xplane 11 however is being rebuilt with vulkcan and will run fantastic on amd cards once its out of beta and released.

It is a cpu hog though also so the ryzen family is well suited for it.

Homelander

My understanding is that xplane relies heavily on IPC rather than threads which is why the serious players always recommend Intel cpus for it. They all have 8700s, 9600s, 9700s, etc with strong clocks.

On the contrary I think Ryzen is not suited for Xplane, which is based on single core performance. Ryzen 3600 would be better but a 2600 would be way behind an intel cpu in it.

paulocon2

codie wrote: »

How about this one, can get in bricks and mortar.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-tornado-r5-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1660-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-120-gb-ssd-10195687-pdt.html

Similiar spec I think ,bigger hard drive.

Maybe ryzen 3600 better ?

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/4051vs4040

Never thought of Curries. I'm thinking about this..

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-tornado-r3-amd-ryzen-3-gtx-1050-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-120-gb-ssd-10195674-pdt.html

BloodBath

That thing is a piece of crap and a rip off. An APU with a crap GPU. Genius.

K.O.Kiki

Homelander wrote: »

My understanding is that xplane relies heavily on IPC rather than threads which is why the serious players always recommend Intel cpus for it. They all have 8700s, 9600s, 9700s, etc with strong clocks.

On the contrary I think Ryzen is not suited for Xplane, which is based on single core performance. Ryzen 3600 would be better but a 2600 would be way behind an intel cpu in it.

Ryzen 3000 actually has better IPC than Intel, they're just behind in clockspeed.

I recommend anyone getting a new gaming PC to get a 3600 or 3700X if they can afford them.

SweetCaliber

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Ryzen 3000 actually has better IPC than Intel, they're just behind in clockspeed.

I recommend anyone getting a new gaming PC to get a 3600 or 3700X if they can afford them.

Was just about to chime in and back this up. The 3600 has much greater IPC than intel.

Overclock it and your onto a winner.

SweetCaliber

BloodBath wrote: »

That thing is a piece of crap and a rip off. An APU with a crap GPU. Genius.

Whoever put that together needs a serious talking to

BloodBath

paulocon2 wrote: »

Never thought of Curries. I'm thinking about this..

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-tornado-r3-amd-ryzen-3-gtx-1050-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-120-gb-ssd-10195674-pdt.html

You could get this if you self build. Far far superior for the same money.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£108.78 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£63.48 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£57.18 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.38 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card (£124.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£32.78 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£41.22 @ More Computers)
Total: £515.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-03 01:52 GMT+0000

paulocon2

BloodBath wrote: »

You could get this if you self build. Far far superior for the same money.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£108.78 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£63.48 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£57.18 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.38 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card (£124.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£32.78 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£41.22 @ More Computers)
Total: £515.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-03 01:52 GMT+0000

Thanks for the heads-up. Unfortunately, time is against me (Christmas) so looking to buy something pre-built. Struggling to find something though!!

K.O.Kiki

paulocon2 wrote: »

Thanks for the heads-up. Unfortunately, time is against me (Christmas) so looking to buy something pre-built. Struggling to find something though!!

Just realised you're not OP - could you open your own thread so we can find you something?