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General Election December, 2019 (U.K.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,047 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    With that majority I don't think so. He'll swagger back to EU and turn the screw now. The deal he got is not great, he'll go get better now.

    The WA is 'his' deal though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Digging into this a bit more. If it's accurate, it probably puts a second Scottish Independence referendum immediately back on the Calendar, and could bring forward a United Ireland considerably depending on the results there both tonight and in the next assembly elections (whenever the hell they might be).

    This could be an extremely beneficial result for Scotland and Ireland in the long term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    If sub 200 seats JC is gone. No question about it. 5 years to next election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Hey folks the exit polls were wrong in 2015 and can be wrong again ....
    Too big of a gap in projected seats between Tories and labour, Tories will get the 326 anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    One seat for the Greens......wow the Green Wave across Europe is alive and well....


    That's more due to first past the post than anything. The UK is the only country in Europe that uses FPTP for its parliament.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭maynooth_rules


    So much similar to Trump vote. A dreadful buffoon is about to be elected because of the utter shambles of an opposition. Corbyn was always unelectable, and his Brexit policy made him even more unelectable. Hillary, much the same, was just unelectable to so many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,284 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    This just shows if the remainers had had their way and had a second undemocratic referendum the leave vote would have increased.


    Hard to argue with that. I expect tomorrow we'll see those young students who could vote this time around arguing that they didn't actually bother to vote as they were busy on instagram and thought Labour would win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,910 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Berserker wrote: »
    Yep, remainers and their ilk aren't fond of it when it doesn't go their way. Very undemocratic of them.

    I don't see any Remainers still calling for a second referendum. It's done. It's over. Boris will have a mandate to deliver Brexit.

    Does it mean if there was another referendum that people would vote to leave? No but they did in 2016 and have elected a party to deliver it again. Nobody can argue for a second referendum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,953 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Barry Gardiner on sky news looks broken!


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭kevcos


    Irish living in England here.

    Delighted with the result!
    I voted Tory and I'd vote for Brexit everyday of the week before voting for Corbyn/socialism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    There can be no doubt now Brexit is what the UK electorate want. Voted for it in 2016, the Tories got most seats in 2017, and this campaign which has been entirely about 'Get Brexit Done' has seemingly resulted in the UK voters giving it a thumping seal of approval.

    Its what the English want, the scottish have just rejected it and we dont know about NI or wales yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The labour representative on Sky looks sick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Given that Johnson will not accede to a Scotland ref will there be a genuine campaign of resistance north of the border? The SNP will need to be quite statesmanlike to channel the anger and frustration.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,681 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    This just shows if the remainers had had their way and had a second undemocratic referendum the leave vote would have increased.

    Not really - I know remainers who have voted Tory, because they didn't want to leave the EU, but they feared Jeremy Corbyn more than that. There are also many remainers who have drifted off to other parties as Corbyn is toxic.
    There can be no doubt now Brexit is what the UK electorate want. Voted for it in 2016, the Tories got most seats in 2017, and this campaign which has been entirely about 'Get Brexit Done' has seemingly resulted in the UK voters giving it a thumping seal of approval.

    If you want to know what people want to do whether to leave or remain, you ask them that question directly. General elections are about more than Brexit, the popularity of leaders comes into it and the fact is that many people who are remain, simply can't vote for Corbyn so the votes are spread over many parties rather than one strong party which means Tories would benefit.

    A strong Centre Left Labour Party campaigning for remain would have won many more seats tonight and the Conservatives would have won less. As much as I can complain about the Conservatives, they united as a party of leave and ran on it, Labour would have done far better if they had settled on a position.


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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    The labour representative on Sky looks sick.

    Gardiner looks as if he's drank half a bottle of whiskey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Barry Gardiner on sky news looks broken!

    Top shelf and a double for Mr Gardiner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,080 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    The coal mines will be back open in no time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,284 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    joe_99 wrote: »
    What rubbish. The EU deal is done.


    Nothing is ever done in politics until it's actually done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    joe_99 wrote: »
    What rubbish. The EU deal is done.

    It was rejected by parliament and therefore consigned to the dustbin of history. He starts again with a blank piece of paper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    This just shows if the remainers had had their way and had a second undemocratic referendum the leave vote would have increased.

    Doesn't show that at all

    Fistly it does nto show the percentage of the overall vote and is based mostly on marginals

    Secondly its an exit poll

    Wait until morning to see the full vote results before drawaing such conclusions


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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Caspian Sticky Tournament


    Dennis Skinner out?

    After 49 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Letwin_Larry


    It goes to show that the polls can be wrong. Not always in favour of the Opposition, but also in favour of the ruling party.

    Johnson is the most successful PM in terms of majority since Margaret Thatcher.

    Corbyn performed worse than Michael Foot.

    That's the end of all that silly talk of People's Vote, 2nd Referemdum, Remain.

    End of. Finito.
    Good Bye Remainers. close the door on the way out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    If that exit poll is anyway near right, good riddance to Corbyn. Utterly useless as an opposition leader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its what the English want, the scottish have just rejected it and we dont know about NI or wales yet

    It's a UK election, Roscommon rejected same sex marriage.

    They are bound by the result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,910 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Nothing is ever done in politics until it's actually done.

    The EU will politely tell him to f-uck right off if he saunters back for a deal. It isn't in the EU's interest. Take the WA or don't, that's it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    Corbyn gone by the morning.

    Britain leaving the EU will happen now.

    Was always going to happen the remainers behaviour the last few years has been a disgrace in the face of a democratic referendum. Boris may push for no deal now with this size majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its what the English want, the scottish have just rejected it and we dont know about NI or wales yet

    Given the Tories have virtually no seats in Scotland, they must have won most seats in Wales also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,774 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    That's more due to first past the post than anything. The UK is the only country in Europe that uses FPTP for its parliament.

    A status quo that they recently voted to maintain remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,049 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    kevcos wrote: »
    Irish living in England here.

    Delighted with the result!
    I voted Tory and I'd vote for Brexit everyday of the week before voting for Corbyn/socialism.

    Seems you left the country before you completed Irish schooling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Dennis Skinner out?

    After 49 years.

    Say it isn’t so


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