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General Election December, 2019 (U.K.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Yeah he really doesn't when as far as the EU is concerned the deal is done

    He actually can't put that deal before parliament again. So it's either a new deal or crash out. Which Johnson seems to be ok with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    Laura is very very happy on bbc
    UK RIP. Britian is finished. Dark days ahead across the pond. Horrible repulsive lying sleeveen yoke like Johnston Prime Minister. In years to come this will be seen as a dark day in British history. If there is a political hell , surely Tories will be rot there. But for now we watch a country inflicting incredible self harm on it self.
    The only thing is there will be world wide recession sometime in the early 2020s , possibly late 2020 or 2021. Brexit will be a disaster. As the country goes into recession after world wide recession occurs and Brexits impacts, and within a couple of years ; the whole of the Uk will hate Johnston and Tories. 15 years in power , no Tory government has won 5 elections in a row. Labour will have a leader who doesnt have the baggage Corbyn has. And Brexit is a poison chalice , Europe destroyed Cameron , May and it will destroy Johnston. But still 5 more years of Tories is awful future for ordinary British people. The media with its Tory proganda and bias , have allot to answer for.

    At least 10 years of Tory rule ahead. Hurrah ! The great British people don’t want your communism poster. Back to the drawing board with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,047 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    For those disappointed by the predicted results, if they're proven true the DUP have become an utter irrelevance and seen their strategy of the last few years backfire spectacularly. So there's that.

    I think it also speeds up a united Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    brevity wrote: »
    I think it’s less about Brexit and more about Corbyn. His “take from the rich and give to the poor” was never going to work in a country that has a lot of relatively rich people.

    The rich are a tiny minority so thats not really it but I agree about corbyn except its mainly hes just simply an entirely unlikeable person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭liamtech


    For those disappointed by the predicted results, if they're proven true the DUP have become an utter irrelevance and seen their strategy of the last few years backfire spectacularly. So there's that.

    That - and also Fairplay to the SNP - and also, Swinson's days are surely numbered - the Lib Dems can do SO SO much better

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    If this is comes to pass, where does this leave Labour.

    Jez may well go but Momentum are not likely to go quietly into the night. McDonnell as leader? How would he do?

    There is a hell of a lot of soul searching to be done by the Labour Party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,470 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    How are the exit polls conducted? Is it a random sample of voters, or do they try to capture a range of demographics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,551 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    For those disappointed by the predicted results, if they're proven true the DUP have become an utter irrelevance and seen their strategy of the last few years backfire spectacularly. So there's that.

    Yep the upshot.

    Labour's 4th election in a row to lose. It's history repeating itself all over again.

    Labour can't win elections, Tories can't lose them. They are an electoral machine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Ribs1234


    The gloating of the Brexiteers in 2016 and their failure to attempt to heal that divide, led directly to the state mate in UK parliament since then. This election will clear the air, but that mistake must not be repeated now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    With the SNP sweeping the board in Scotland, surely the constitutional question will be back in the limelight soon enough? Brexit England has basically told the other UK nations to basically suck it up here as we dont care about you.

    Yea, Borris could end up being the last prime minister of the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Even Dennis Skinner, the "Beast of Bolsover", looks like losing his seat. Its all over for Labour.

    I wish he hadn’t put himself forward. He might have known it was game over. I’ll miss him terribly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Jeremy had no message.

    He must resign tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    If Exit Poll is correct, Labour's Dennis Skinner has almost definitely lost his seat.

    Chuka Umuna has lost his seat - based on the Exit Poll - with Labour winning it.

    A vacuous slimeball. No great loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    If the majority is this big then you have to say, hell rub it up the UK. People had a choice here and they emphatically said they wish to leave. So be it.

    Agree completely, i think they are fvcking morons but this is what they want


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,080 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    I think it also speeds up a united Ireland.


    It speeds up a vote, financially not sure we could afford to take the region on at the moment without massive EU aid. Assumption will be that along with a poll in the north there would also need to be one down here also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,506 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    ITV reported a few minutes ago, before Gove's live interview, that Jo Swinson has lost her seat tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,527 ✭✭✭touts


    Lots of people saying this is the end of the UK because the Scotland will hold another independence referendum. Well they need the permission of Westminster to do that. This is the sort of majority that takes two elections to overturn so it's at least 10 years before the SNP even get a meeting with a PM who might need their votes.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Akrasia wrote: »
    How are the exit polls conducted? Is it a random sample of voters, or do they try to capture a range of demographics?

    According to sky it's 30,000 voters from 141 polling locations.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It probably has a police escort on a closed roads, they take this very seriously up there!:D

    Nah, the polling station will have been in the other end of the building and they just ran down the corridor with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    If Exit Poll is correct, Labour's Dennis Skinner has almost definitely lost his seat.

    Chuka Umuna has lost his seat - based on the Exit Poll - with Labour winning it.

    Chukka doesn’t know who he is or what he stands for. He’s got talent but he can’t decide where he stands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    UK RIP. Britian is finished. Dark days ahead across the pond. Horrible repulsive lying sleeveen yoke like Johnston Prime Minister. In years to come this will be seen as a dark day in British history. If there is a political hell , surely Tories will be rot there. But for now we watch a country inflicting incredible self harm on it self.

    Yeah, but remember our fate is closely aligned with the UK...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,315 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    So much for all the shiite on Twitter all day about young people coming out in their droves for Corbyn. Fake news!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,284 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The first order of business after they leave the EU, is to get back in EU,, IE get that trade deal as soon as asap as possible.
    It will be business as usual then. Really won't effect Ireland, it's good for Ireland as a lot of UK companies will now look to move here, more jobs, more money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    ITV reported a few minutes ago, before Gove's live interview, that Jo Swinson has lost her seat tonight.

    Come on, that would be funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    A status quo that they recently voted to maintain remember.

    That doesn't change the fact that there's a big disparity between votes and seats. In 2015 UKIP got almost 13% of the votes but 0.2% of the seats, while the SNP got 5% of votes giving them 9% of the seats.

    In theory a party could get 49% of votes and 0 seats, a scenario impossible in the rest of Europe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,805 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ITV reported a few minutes ago, before Gove's live interview, that Jo Swinson has lost her seat tonight.

    The Lib Dems message was your referendum vote did not matter...that they were going to reverse it come what May.

    How anybody is surprised about this result across the board is beyond me.

    At the end of the day the wishes of the electorate for whatever reason were not carried through.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    brevity wrote: »
    I think it’s less about Brexit and more about Corbyn. His “take from the rich and give to the poor” was never going to work in a country that has a lot of relatively rich people.

    I think Brexit has a lot to do about it. People are absolutely fed up of it.

    The Conservatives were the only ones actually offering to get it over and done with.

    Labour and the Liberal Democrats were offering a second referendum. Can you imagine how divisive that would have been? Brexit for years on end. Around and around we go.

    Not hugely surprising that the people have said enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Strazdas wrote: »
    You would have to say also that England in December 2019 seems to be a very right wing country (for whatever reason).

    What makes England "very right wing"?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    I don't understand Brexit party stepping aside, surely if they had Brexit Mps they could shape Brexit, now Johnson has a blank cheque to push through whatever form of Brexit he wants


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