General Election December, 2019 (U.K.)

Itssoeasy

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

DUP '' he won't get a deal through his own party''

Is that an actual quote ?

Nigel Farage just interviewed by Andrew Neil; he seems very pleased with the result and that, even if it doesn't result in the Brexit he wants, it's better than a Second Referendum.

10000maniacs

10000maniacs wrote: »

The minority who said they don’t care if Brexit happens seemed beyond reasoned debate in the last few months. That's where labour lost their 70 seats.
If only Corbyn got off his cowardly fence.

Corbyn is a leaver. He has been anti-EU for decades. His party wanted to remain, and given that he's not an authoritarian (to many people's chagrin) he had to find a compromise, that being the second referendum.

Ultimately, he was in the hal'penny place.

BorneTobyWilde

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is that an actual quote ?

Yea, The guy with the Moustache, don't know his name


Sammy Wilson

AllGunsBlazing

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

DUP '' he won't get a deal through his own party''

Forgot about those clowns in all of this. Time for them to embrace irrelevance, and quite possibly, oblivion.

beggars_bush

When the secretary in our work (who is from the UK) told me she was fully supporting Brexit and the Tories then I'd a sense of just how short sighted UK voters are. (Especially as her mum relies on the NHS in north London)

MPFGLB

Just goes to show that politics is really about personality not character or policies

Most people who have worked with Johnson know he lies and is lazy and power hungry.He is without principle

Say what you will about Corbyn but he does have principles ...even if he has had a charisma by pass and is too far to the left.

There you have it ...people prefer crooks like Trump to people of principle

This is why democracy is really what is in trouble

Oven ready Brexit won it ..simple sound bites for those who want only them and nothing else

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nigel Farage just interviewed by Andrew Neil; he seems very pleased with the result and that, even if it doesn't result in the Brexit he wants, it's better than a Second Referendum.

That's gas because he was all against a johnson majority on Monday. It's almost like he's a ****e talker for hire...

Strazdas

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is that an actual quote ?

Tommy Gorman says the DUP were shocked and hugely deflated when they heard the exit poll at the count centre

NIMAN

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Yea, The guy with the Moustache, don't know his name

Sammy Wilson?

Itssoeasy

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Yea, The guy with the Moustache, don't know his name

Sammy Wilson ?

Blanco100

Sammy is all about Stormont now. Suppose they have to try and look like they care about their own now.

liamtech

Deleted User wrote: »

Nigel Farage just interviewed by Andrew Neil; he seems very pleased with the result and that, even if it doesn't result in the Brexit he wants, it's better than a Second Referendum.

Missed it - Sammy Wilson is waffling on BBC NI - about how the DUP will manage to some how alter Boris Johnsons deal

dublinman1990

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

On Freesat you can skip up/down


But which area to hover over ?

101 BBC NI
102 BBC 2 Hue Edwards
103 UTV but it's ITN
104 C4 Alternative election night - so so, so far
105 C5 Most Shocking Cleb moments :rolleyes:


200 BBC News
201 BBC Parliament - jumped here when Laura came on looking ghoulish
202 SKY
207 CNN - UK elections hmmm
208 Bloomberg Uk elections

others
971 BBC 2 Wales
973 BBC 1 Scotland
976 BBC 1 Wales
978 BBC 1 NI

Don't forget that BBC Scotland HD have their own separate coverage.

PressRun

Find it amazing that this "get Brexit done" narrative was never really challenged. Brexit is not an event like New Year's Eve that just gets "done" when the clock strikes midnight and then we all go back to normal again. Utterly absurd notion that was being parroted by voters.

flazio

Quick question.
How come the Liberal Democrats are never really contenders in this?

BorneTobyWilde

NIMAN wrote: »

Sammy Wilson?

Yea.

Berserker

Deleted User wrote: »

Having lived in Wales for a time, I can say that you'll be lucky to get out of the pub unscathed if you say that!

Worst abuse I ever received was in Cardiff. Thought I was going to get a hiding that day. Not sure who they like, in terms of politics, from my interactions. Independence was never mentioned. Did you get to the bottom of it?

PressRun

flazio wrote: »

Quick question.
How come the Liberal Democrats are never really contenders in this?

Too wishy washy.

letowski

Another lesson from this, is that social media is a terrible reflection on voting trends.

All around social media the talk was Labour were closing and a hung parliament was on the cards.

Nothing could have been further from the truth.

The reality is most people on the ground are very skeptical of far left policies.

The electorate have spoken and opted to Brexit and to support Johnson's Deal.

I know we said this in 2016, but dare I say we need to say it again: we need to respect the result of the election.

Accept Brexit - or lose more elections.

It's your choice.

splinter65

listermint wrote: »

Kip of a country.


And Ireland's vastly surpassed it in world standing social issues and average wealth.


Kip. Enjoy your Recession lap it up nom nom nom

Tell that to all the people lying on trollies, sleeping in hotels, sleeping rough, suffering from cervical cancer, traveling hundreds of miles for cancer services this Christmas, living in DP, closing down businesses....
I know your bitterly disappointed that there won’t be a socialist PM in Downing St in the morning but you need to get things in perspective.

For Forks Sake

John McDonnell on Sky now. The likes of him, Milne et al need to be ran out of the party if they are to re position themselves as an entity that people actually want to vote for.

Berserker

flazio wrote: »

Quick question.
How come the Liberal Democrats are never really contenders in this?

Don't have the numbers, don't have any real substance in their policies. Can you think of anything that makes them stand out from the rest?

splinter65

flazio wrote: »

Quick question.
How come the Liberal Democrats are never really contenders in this?

What were they offering the voters?

devnull

flazio wrote: »

Quick question.
How come the Liberal Democrats are never really contenders in this?

Lib Dems percentage vote share I reckon might be up a decent amount, but spread too thin in a First Past the Post system.

At the end of the day it's a Two party system and you could get a bit spike in number of people voting for you but no real increase in seats.

boggerman1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

When Brexit is proved not to be the biblical catastrophe that many claim it will be, I think you'll find they'll be happy to Remain within the Union.

Project Fear is a terrible, terrible thing; anathema to the unbridled truth.

That’s about as funny as listening to billy hutinchson on eamon dunphys podcast saying the Republic of Ireland would eventually rejoin the mothership of go.

flazio

Berserker wrote: »

Don't have the numbers, don't have any real substance in their policies. Can you think of anything that makes them stand out from the rest?

Clear remainers for one.

Ribs1234

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The electorate have spoken and opted to Brexit and to support Johnson's Deal.

I know we said this in 2016, but dare I say we need to say it again: we need to respect the result of the election.

It is time to heal the divide too in the UK, no gloating belittling sh**e that resulted in stalemate in parliament. Can the conservatives learn from that, or is division their new opus operandi?

bren2001

Deleted User wrote: »

The electorate have spoken and opted to Brexit and to support Johnson's Deal.

I know we said this in 2016, but dare I say we need to say it again: we need to respect the result of the election.

Accept Brexit - or lose more elections.

It's your choice.

Is anybody saying otherwise? If you's have not exited in 3 and a half years, I'll argue for another referendum then. Until then.... tonight is the Conservatives night.