General Election December, 2019 (U.K.)

stefanovich

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They needn't have worried he would be too busy getting the NHS to fund homeopathy treatment and getting 'women only carriages' on trains.

I am NOT making the above up.


He had his finger on the pulse so he did.

Homeopathy is only for people with private health insurance.

stefanovich

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There have been a couple of attempts to build a right wing/nationalist/conservative movement (Libertas comes to mind). Each and every time it's failed because they have failed to get media backing. Social media isn't enough.

I'm not talking about that unhinged woman. I'm talking about Kevin Myers.

ELM327

Crazy outcome.


I think it's a clear result, pro brexit damning majority for England and Wales, clear mandate for nationalism/independence referenda in Scotland and NI

Gods Gift

How did lord buckethead and lord binface do?

171170

stefanovich wrote: »

The only real right wing journalist was silenced by the outrage mob.

Agreed. I miss him.

Depressing to think that he's been exiled while cabbages like O'Fool and Mullally retain their media platforms for communicating unfiltered crap.

That said, I found his whining interview in last Saturday's Indo a bit cringeworthy.

stefanovich

171170 wrote: »

Agreed. I miss him.

Depressing to think that he's been exiled while cabbages like O'Fool and Mullally retain their media platforms for communicating unfiltered crap.

That said, I found his whining interview in last Sunday's Indo a bit cringeworthy.

Didn't read it. Maybe I won't!

171170

darem93 wrote: »

Finally announced, SF win Fermanagh South Tyrone.

Now time for bed!

Great news for the lads who tortured Kevin Lunney. We won boys! :mad:

171170

stefanovich wrote: »

Didn't read it. Maybe I won't!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/i-havent-had-a-full-nights-sleep-in-two-years-journalist-kevin-myers-on-life-since-he-woke-up-to-the-demise-of-his-career-38763566.html

In case you change your mind! Even the photo is twee!

On a point of info it was last Saturday's Indo not the SIndo!

ILoveYourVibes

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I've said it a few times before, but by far the Tories biggest asset has been Jeremy Corbyn. I genuinely don't understand why they stuck by him, what drew people towards him.

They didn't KNOW him.

He has no principles. He goes with the tide of what is popular among the fringes because that has been his bread and butter all of his life.

I at sometimes realized he had no real interest in making life better for ordinary people the ones in his own country he was supposed to represent.

I'm devastated Dennis Skinner is gone though. He was a real socialist.

Berserker5

Boris can forget about the Police numbers and the Hospitals now anyhow the elections over

ILoveYourVibes

stefanovich wrote: »

Homeopathy is only for people with private health insurance.

No ..Corbyn wanted it for everyone available on the NHS funded publically.

bren2001

ELM327 wrote: »

Crazy outcome.


I think it's a clear result, pro brexit damning majority for England and Wales, clear mandate for nationalism/independence referenda in Scotland and NI

Wales is LAB 22, CON 14, and PC 4. I don't see how that can be interpreted as pro-Brexit. Yet again, England are the only country to vote for Brexit. Boris has his mandate and will plough on (as he should).

Scotland has a clear mandate for an independence referendum.

The DUP won 8 of the 18 seats in NI, I don't see that as a clear mandate for a border poll or unification referendum there.

MrMusician18

stefanovich wrote: »

I'm not talking about that unhinged woman. I'm talking about Kevin Myers.

It wasn't the Twitter mob that ended Myer's career, other journos turned on him.

ILoveYourVibes

171170 wrote: »

Great news for the lads who tortured Kevin Lunney. We won boys! :mad:

SF or the DUP....its like evil ...and evil...although i think some dup voters went alliance.

It was funny to see Ian Paisley bible thumping and singing hymns right before he ate the head off a BBC journalist for asking about corruption charges. From Angel to Beast in seconds.

Berserker5

DUP back in their box anyhow is the best news

careless sherpa

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I've said it a few times before, but by far the Tories biggest asset has been Jeremy Corbyn. I genuinely don't understand why they stuck by him, what drew people towards him. If you can't make gains with the open goal that has been the Tory Party over the past few years, then something is radically wrong.

He lacks completely in charisma, he didn't provide an effective opposition, his policies were muddled at best, his stubbornness. He's in no way suited to front bench politics, he's a student union politician that never grew up.

I think the late Clive James summed him up perfectly..."I admire the way his principles are uninhibited by reason."

You have left out that there has been an unrelenting and vicious media campaign against him for years

ILoveYourVibes

careless sherpa wrote: »

You have left out that there has been an unrelenting and vicious media campaign against him for years

There are unrelenting and vicious media campaigns about EVERY politician there has ever been.

Boris got exactly the same treatment.

And they both deserve it.

Corbyn has been treated no better no worse.

VinLieger

Are the SNP likely to go for an unofficial indy ref 2 if johnson refuses permission for an official one? ie something akin to what happened in catalonia?

ILoveYourVibes

VinLieger wrote: »

Are the SNP likely to go for an unofficial indy ref 2 if johnson refuses permission for an official one? ie something akin to what happened in catalonia?

They don't know what they want and what they have promised they can't deliver.

They keep saying scotland could stay in the EU which the EU has refused. And they say scotland could leave the union and be in the EU..which would leave them with EXACTLY the same issues we are having with NI. And they keep saying they wouldn't have to accept the euro on joining as a separate nation again untrue. They haven't explained how leaving the union might leave them in a diff customs union from the rest of the uk many businesses suffering.

They are not in any way dealing with reality. Nor are they being honest with people ...its just trying to rally up their vote.

robinph

bren2001 wrote: »

Wales is LAB 22, CON 14, and PC 4. I don't see how that can be interpreted as pro-Brexit. Yet again, England are the only country to vote for Brexit. Boris has his mandate and will plough on (as he should).

Scotland has a clear mandate for an independence referendum.

The DUP won 8 of the 18 seats in NI, I don't see that as a clear mandate for a border poll or unification referendum there.

Even in England the Tories were voted for by less than 50% of the population. Even adding in the Brexit Party votes it's still less than 50%.

The result might be a massive Tory majority, but they (and the idea of Brexit) are not supported by the majority of the population.

Duke of Url

VinLieger wrote: »

Are the SNP likely to go for an unofficial indy ref 2 if johnson refuses permission for an official one? ie something akin to what happened in catalonia?

no

Unless its an official ref then they wont waste there time.

Thargor

Oh God Corbyn saying he won't fight another election means hes planning on hanging around for another few years.

signostic

What will Brexit look like now? Further negotiation with the EU or just a hard Brexit?

ILoveYourVibes

robinph wrote: »

Even in England the Tories were voted for by less than 50% of the population. Even adding in the Brexit Party votes it's still less than 50%.

The result might be a massive Tory majority, but they (and the idea of Brexit) are not supported by the majority of the population.

That is like going to the Olympics and saying you care about times not medals.

ILoveYourVibes

signostic wrote: »

What will Brexit look like now? Further negotiation with the EU or just a hard Brexit?

Boris's withdrawal agreement or a hard brexit i think.

Tom Mann Centuria

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

There are unrelenting and vicious media campaigns about EVERY politician there has ever been.

Boris got exactly the same treatment.

And they both deserve it.

Corbyn has been treated no better no worse.

Not sure what planet you get your media coverage from if you actually believe that.

Duke of Url

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They don't know what they want and what they have promised they can't deliver.

They keep saying scotland could stay in the EU which the EU has refused. And they say scotland could leave the union and be in the EU..which would leave them with EXACTLY the same issues we are having with NI. And they keep saying they wouldn't have to accept the euro on joining as a separate nation again untrue. They haven't explained how leaving the union might leave them in a diff customs union from the rest of the uk many businesses suffering.

They are not in any way dealing with reality. Nor are they being honest with people ...its just trying to rally up their vote.

Everything you are listing is from the last referendum debates.

They are not going to be quoting the same this time around.

signostic

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Boris's withdrawal agreement or a hard brexit i think.

Could Johnston now seek to get rid of the Common Travel Area?

robinph

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

That is like going to the Olympics and saying you care about times not medals.

That is like saying that governing a country is all about ignoring and destroying those who didn't vote for you.

For Forks Sake

Thargor wrote: »

Oh God Corbyn saying he won't fight another election means hes planning on hanging around for another few years.

"Worse than Michael Foot". What a footnote for Corbyns career.