General Election December, 2019 (U.K.)

Mr.Nice Guy

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1199799034271162368

Most supposed sources suggesting this poll will be good news for the Tories. Not long until we find out.

I'm as excited for this as the exit poll.

BonnieSituation

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

In keeping with tradition, they could interview a tub of lard.

Do we not need to share the link for those of a younger vintage?

Professor Moriarty

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Do we not need to share the link for those of a younger vintage?

Millennials got Google.

Strazdas

prawnsambo wrote: »

Is that a gain on last election or current standings?

If they mean 2017, that would give them 326 (the bare minimum needed to form a majority)

prawnsambo

Strazdas wrote: »

If they mean 2017, that would give them 326 (the bare minimum needed to form a majority)

Effectively 321 should be enough, since SF take seven away and the Speaker another one (election results depending of course).

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1199799034271162368

Most supposed sources suggesting this poll will be good news for the Tories. Not long until we find out.

I'm as excited for this as the exit poll.

Yes, apparently it appears to be a 50+ majority for Prime Minister Johnson:

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1199799034271162368

Though we'll find out the specifics in perhaps 20 minutes from now.

LeinsterDub

prawnsambo wrote: »

Effectively 321 should be enough, since SF take seven away and the Speaker another one (election results depending of course).

Enough for a majority , not enough for brexit. Needs north of 350 in my opinion for that if you ask me

Rjd2

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Enough for a majority , not enough for brexit. Needs north of 350 in my opinion for that if you ask me

Tbf that would not be the worst result for Boris although obviously he would not admit that.

Mr.Nice Guy

Conservative majority of 68 predicted.

https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1199810130054930436

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mrp-election-poll-boris-johnson-heads-for-big-majority-qrqsq9f7r

Strazdas

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Enough for a majority , not enough for brexit. Needs north of 350 in my opinion for that if you ask me

I believe though Johnson has made every candidate sign a pledge that they must support the WA in Parliament : they cannot abstain or vote against it.

prawnsambo

This is the breakdown.

prawnsambo

prawnsambo wrote: »

This is the breakdown.

Absolutely beautiful.

Thank goodness for that. I was worried based on previous speculation. Lib dems getting a solid smack by the public, too. Swinson's strategy has backfired spectacularly.

Looks as if things are going in the right direction.

Let's hope nothing major happens over the forthcoming 3 weeks to knock this majority One Nation Conservative government.

More importantly, perhaps, it will signal the end of Jeremy Corbyn and his nightmare socialist experiment.

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1199810327149457409

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1199810711762931713

Strazdas

prawnsambo wrote: »

This is the breakdown.

If that comes to pass, they are out of the EU in 8-9 weeks' time.

Mr.Nice Guy

Corbyn is finished if the election pans out like the above.

Would be bad news for the DUP too as even if they have 10 seats it will count for nothing.

LeinsterDub

Strazdas wrote: »

I believe though Johnson has made every candidate sign a pledge that they must support the WA in Parliament : they cannot abstain or vote against it.

Of course they can. They cannot abstain or vote against it and remain in the party is what you mean

hotmail.com

Labour could be a decade and a half in opposition if this poll is proven to be accurate.

The best Labour can hope for is a similar result to 2017, I think it's almost certain now that Labour won't out poll the Tories.

LeinsterDub

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Corbyn is finished if the election pans out like the above.

Would be bad news for the DUP too as even if they have 10 seats it will count for nothing.

Anything but victory will finish him

prawnsambo

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Corbyn is finished if the election pans out like the above.

Would be bad news for the DUP too as even if they have 10 seats it will count for nothing.

These are the predicted Labour losses.

Mad. Stoke on Trent devastated by Tory rule and they are likely to vote them in.

L1011

Strazdas wrote: »

I believe though Johnson has made every candidate sign a pledge that they must support the WA in Parliament : they cannot abstain or vote against it.

The Irish Labour Party makes you sign a pledge that you will resign immediately from the Dail if you leave the party. Don't think any TD has ever done so - Broughan, Shortall, Nally etc certainly didn't.

They're completely unenforcable.

Strazdas

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Of course they can. They cannot abstain or vote against it and remain in the party is what you mean

For sure, that's what I meant : they can of course vote against it but Johnson has informed them he will kick them out of the party if they do so.

bren2001

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely beautiful.

Thank goodness for that. I was worried based on previous speculation. Lib dems getting a solid smack by the public, too. Swinson's strategy has backfired spectacularly.

Looks as if things are going in the right direction.

Let's hope nothing major happens over the forthcoming 3 weeks to knock this majority One Nation Conservative government.

More importantly, perhaps, it will signal the end of Jeremy Corbyn and his nightmare socialist experiment.

Means SFA. Polls have got is spectacularly wrong in the past few years. Lets see how the election pans out.

If you think this is the end of a "nightmare" socialist experiment. Who do you think he has surrounded himself with at the top echelons of the Labour Party. This isn't changing any time soon.

(Before you jump at me, I work in statistics for a living. I've a PhD close to the topic. I also run some of the stats for the political parties here. )

Leroy42

Strazdas wrote: »

I believe though Johnson has made every candidate sign a pledge that they must support the WA in Parliament : they cannot abstain or vote against it.

I think the pledge actually states that any candidate (well elected MP at that stage) that votes against the government needs to away and die in a ditch!

awec

Those numbers make grim reading for Labour, especially those that have stood by Corbyn. Yea, they've been wrong before, but it's still uncomfortable reading for them.

He is just too big a drag on their vote, a decent opposition should be wiping the floor with this government.

Strazdas

prawnsambo wrote: »

These are the predicted Labour losses.

Mad. Stoke on Trent devastated by Tory rule and they are likely to vote them in.

Working class areas in the midlands and north deserve everything coming their way if they vote for Johnson.

(Still time for them not to go down this nutty route).

awec

The numbers are also brutal for the Lib Dems.

Rjd2

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Conservative majority of 68 predicted.

https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1199810130054930436

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mrp-election-poll-boris-johnson-heads-for-big-majority-qrqsq9f7r

Tories should be happy obviously, but anyone who says tory majority is a cert can't be taken seriously.

https://twitter.com/harrytlambert/status/1199811408407531522

That's the concern for the tories.

Rjd2

awec wrote: »

The numbers are also brutal for the Lib Dems.

Times Journo tweeted the below are in trouble.
That's a stunner, some serious hitters there.

I mean its not a cert they lose obviously but think they may be a little worried.

Umunna, Berger, Gyimah, Wollaston, Lee, Sandbach

bilston

Corbyn has to be the biggest liability a political party in the UK or pretty much anywhere else has had in a long time.

The Tories have been at war with themselves for the last 3 years (and for longer), the UK govt wasn't able to win important votes in the HoC. Their leader is regarded by most Britons as untrustworthy and worse by some, and yet they are on course for a 60 seat majority, the biggest Tory majority since 1987!

Incredible.

How can Corbynites and Labour not see this!!

bren2001

bren2001 wrote: »

Means SFA. Polls have got is spectacularly wrong in the past few years. Lets see how the election pans out.

If you think this is the end of a "nightmare" socialist experiment. Who do you think he has surrounded himself with at the top echelons of the Labour Party. This isn't changing any time soon.

Be honest, would you really -- really -- be saying the same thing if Labour lead the Torys in the same poll?

Really!?

bilston wrote: »

Corbyn has to be the biggest liability a political party in the UK or pretty much anywhere else has had in a long time.

The Tories have been at war with themselves for the last 3 years (and for longer), the UK govt wasn't able to win important votes in the HoC. Their leader is regarded by most Britons as untrustworthy and worse by some, and yet they are on course for a 60 seat majority, the biggest Tory majority since 1987!

Incredible.

How can Corbynites and Labour not see this!!

Very incisive post.

Very true.

Therefore, very likely to be dismissed by Labour voters.

I see sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's hope nothing major happens over the forthcoming 3 weeks to knock this majority One Nation Conservative government.

Ha ha good one,

Think you mixed up 'One Nation' with 'Far Right Loonie'.

Are you Irish? Imagine an Irish person liking the Tories, definitely a wind up.