Rebel burger. No, no, no!

El_Duderino 09

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Oh, that's not going to happen? I can just order what I want and let others have the vegan burger if they want? Or, better yet I could just continue to not go to Burger King? Great!

What? You think you have a choice of what to eat in BK?

I ordered a whopper mean at lunch and they said:
"1 Vegan burger coming up"
"No. I said a Whopper meal"
"2 Vegan burgers coming up, I'll get the force feeding tube. Which end would you like your feeding tube?"

But seriously, some people get so bent out of shape because businesses react to demand. They are only after profit. If it doesn't make money, it'll be discontinued. nothing to get upset about

YFlyer

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Maybe. Does the spokeswoman for Bord Bia get narked off when some people eat other things?

I'm not aware. Maybe when beef comes in from Brazil.

May check what's her views on New Zealand lamb.

Mezzotint

Tried one - tasted OK can't say I was absolutely bowled over. It's just a good quality veggie burger that tastes a little bit meaty.

Also they're not vegan.

Jamsiek

Potential-Monke wrote: »

It is completely and utterly avoidable, I just think that some companies are giving in to the pressure from vegan groups in ensuring there is an option for them at EVERY restaurant.

I don't understand vegans simply because meat is delicious and I couldn't imagine my life without it, but now all these places which are traditionally meat eateries are having to come up with fake meat products to appease the minority. Even though I don't eat vegan, I'm pretty sure Burgerking will be pretty low on the list of where vegans eat, if it's on it at all.

I'm also vehemently against non-meat products being named after meat, and it seems the EU are on my side, changing legislation that basically bans non-meat products from being called burger, sausage, bacon, fillet, and even so far as other terms, such as milk, should not be used to describe something that is not originally what that word means:

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/dyn/15/amendements/0627/CION-ECO/CE2044

Can I similarly go into a vegan/vegetarian restaurant and demand meat, or that they at least provide 1 meat product for us non-vegans/vegetarians? If not, why not?

It's principle. That's all. I couldn't care less that vegans don't eat meat, as long as they're not preaching to me. Maybe this was an internal decision from Burgerking without the pressure (doubtful, but we'll never know). I just don't agree that everywhere that sells food should provide for vegans/vegetarians. That's all. Personal preference if you will.

Edit: And just found out that it's not actual vegan due to mayo being used in it.

It makes perfect sense for restaurants to sell vegetarian food. Just expanding the market.
Simple business, why can't some people understand this?

Jamsiek

Abdiel Numerous Squirrel wrote: »

I see the vegan propaganda about meat being bad has got into your head!

Bar week day breakfast I have to have meat (a lots of it in many cases) with every other meal or it just wouldn’t be a meal without it. Every Saturday and Sunday is a full fry for breakfast then also, wouldn’t be a weekend without it.

Too much red meat is bad for you and linked to cancer and heart disease
Just because it's inconvenient for you to hear doesn't mean it's "propaganda" :rolleyes:

eviltwin

14 pages on the addition of a burger to a fast food menu. What are we like?

Jamsiek

chrissb8 wrote: »

I don't care for it and don't mind if anyone wants to be vegan but there is a degree of smugness around it. The food substitutes that vegans think are worthy or actually comparable to the real thing.

Plenty of smugness in this sentence too by trying to second guess why people do things

chrissb8 wrote: »

People eating vegan chicken sausages? No there is no chicken in it so therefore it is just a vegan sausage. The presence of the word chicken implies there is chicken in it.

Some people like the taste but don't eat meat for personal reasons.
No need to get so worked up about it.

chrissb8 wrote: »

Or the pathetic attempts at trying to substitute the mighty beef burger with a lentil burger or some other mush that turn to s**e after 2 big bites. You will never again know the joy of eating a greasy burger after a few pints.

There you go again, I'm guessing you never tried any of these burgers.
Maybe it might open your mind a bit if you did

chrissb8 wrote: »

Get over it and stop trying to act like you're not missing out because of some nonsense "substitute". You are vegan, you do not eat meat or animal products.

Looks like you should take your own advice.
Get over it indeed!!

chrissb8 wrote: »

I look at vegan food and groan. You will never know the pleasure of devouring turkey ham, buckets of chocolate, cream desserts etc. this christmas. Instead you will torture yourself and delude yourself into thinking with your sustainable diet that you can more than get around with some smart recipes.

I'm not veggie but I accept that some people don't eat meat
Many people I know used to eat it so they do in fact know the taste but still made the decision to stop

chrissb8 wrote: »

Yeah. Maybe. But they all taste like s**e compared to the real thing.

More nonsense based on ignorance

chrissb8 wrote: »

Just go vegetarian and source your milk, eggs etc. ethically. It's not that hard. I think vegans are people with big issues around food and make it a daily war. Which is sad. Just eat the slice of chocolate cake with all its delicious butter, milk and cream, enjoy life.

Seems like you have plenty of issues of your own if this rant is anything to go by

RWCNT

Made my own homemade burgers this evening with proper steak mince from the butchers - no breadcrumbs, egg or onions, just pressed the meat into burger shape, seasoned and griddled them up. Better than anything you'd come by in McDonald's, BK or any of that ****e by a country mile.

Why do these places add so much gunk to their patties? Mince is ****ing cheap like, and surely they could get it even cheaper if they buy it in the massive quantities they need.

FanadMan

bluewolf wrote: »

I don't really care to be honest and if anything the range of options is super. It's a long way from the days you had to make an expedition to a special food shop somewhere.

It's not about avoiding bread, btw. A lot of sauces like soy sauce are made from wheat. Burgers have a 50 50 chance of having breadcrumbs. A lot of crisps are coated in barley flavouring. All breakfast cereals are coated in it as well. That's aside from cross contamination Etc

Some people are horribly intolerant to gluten, which I've never seen before.....always thought it was just a stomach ache or just a put-on.
Was recently out with a friend for a snack. He had a ham sandwich. Had gluten free bread (he asked the waitress before hand if the sandwich was totally gluten free...queue the drama queen), no butter and just ham. About 30 minutes later he had to run to the loo. The orange crumb stuff on the ham contained gluten and was enough to set him off.

Heard so many stories about people demanding gluten free in a restaurant and all they were doing was following a fad. This was a total eye opener for me.

tuxy

FanadMan wrote: »

Some people are horribly intolerant to gluten, which I've never seen before.....always thought it was just a stomach ache or just a put-on.
Was recently out with a friend for a snack. He had a ham sandwich. Had gluten free bread (he asked the waitress before hand if the sandwich was totally gluten free...queue the drama queen), no butter and just ham. About 30 minutes later he had to run to the loo. The orange crumb stuff on the ham contained gluten and was enough to set him off.

Heard so many stories about people demanding gluten free in a restaurant and all they were doing was following a fad. This was a total eye opener for me.

Sounds like he is celiac which is serious but you're right in most cases it is just a mild sensitivity and some people imagine it.

El_Duderino 09

FanadMan wrote: »

Some people are horribly intolerant to gluten, which I've never seen before.....always thought it was just a stomach ache or just a put-on.
Was recently out with a friend for a snack. He had a ham sandwich. Had gluten free bread (he asked the waitress before hand if the sandwich was totally gluten free...queue the drama queen), no butter and just ham. About 30 minutes later he had to run to the loo. The orange crumb stuff on the ham contained gluten and was enough to set him off.

Heard so many stories about people demanding gluten free in a restaurant and all they were doing was following a fad. This was a total eye opener for me.

It's a pity you had to see it with your own eyes to stop presuming they were just arzeholes making a fuss for the sake of following a fad.

airy fairy

tuxy wrote: »

Sounds like he is celiac which is serious but you're right in most cases it is just a mild sensitivity and some people imagine it.

Just because someone reacts differently to gluten doesn't mean damage isn't being done to the body.
Some people are very sensitive when given gluten, some people not at all. Regardless of how they react, people who have been diagnosed with coeliac disease with blood tests and/or scope, are advised by medics that they will do enormous damage to the gut if gluten is ingested.

anewme

Had a rebel burger this evening.

Was really nice vs the usual beanburger thingy.

Fair few orders for them when I was there.

Will buy again.

Andreas77

I prefer the bean burger. I hope they keep the bean burger on the menu.
I noticed many people eating rebel burgers in the shop. Reason being, they are packaged in a distinctive green sheath,. I've met a girl from Galway on Tinder, and I think I will go to the sportsground to see connacht play.It doesn't look like there is much shelter at the sportsground. I'll wear corduroy pants, corduroy jacket, a flannel shirt, and a green scarf to support connacht

cs5

Be. Very. Careful.

That new Rebel Whopper is NOT veggie or vegan friendly.
The reason? The way it’s cooked. It’s cooked with, and on top of raw beef. So veggies and vegans really need to give this a miss. It’s directed at meat eaters who do not want to eat meat all the time. It’s NOT aimed at the veggie/vegan market. Marketing has no mention of it being vegan or veggie.

The Rebel patty literally sits on top of the raw beef as it’s loaded on to the ‘broiler’ to be flame grilled.
Don’t say you didn’t know.

Veggies and vegans run from this.

Sheeps

Had it the other day. Genuinely isn't too bad, but I'll probably not get it again.

lawred2

Notdeco wrote: »

So burger King have spread the v virus to Ireland.
And I'm not happy...





If I want a burger, I want it to be real meat. If I want a salad I want it to be a salad.
Ah the poor vegans want it all.
Well ye can fook off and eat seeds and help the planet and leave the tasty food to us that enjoy flavour.

Had to be said.
I can't be the only one to think this, maybe I am...

Meat in burger King? That's dubious to begin with.

Tasty food in Burger King? That's just completely wrong.

cs5

As a veggie I’m disgusted that I ate one of these before I found out how they are cooked. The veggie bean burger is microwaved cooked and therefore 100% veggie.

The Rebel Whopper is NOT a veggie burger.

Ipso

cs5 wrote: »

Veggies and vegans run from this.

They dont get enough protein to run.

Donnielighto

cs5 wrote: »

As a veggie I’m disgusted that I ate one of these before I found out how they are cooked. The veggie bean burger is microwaved cooked and therefore 100% veggie.

The Rebel Whopper is NOT a veggie burger.

In a place with one grill how would you manage, my housemate who's a veggie says that she'd eat it since nothing died for it, the transfer would be incidental. I can see the reasoning but don't know if it's consistent. Each to their own mind but I don't know where I'd land in the same situation.

Witchie

cs5 wrote: »

As a veggie I’m disgusted that I ate one of these before I found out how they are cooked. The veggie bean burger is microwaved cooked and therefore 100% veggie.

The Rebel Whopper is NOT a veggie burger.

I found this out when was about to order it one day and was asking if it was possible to get it in a non-seeded bun coz of my seasame allergy. I then asked if it was veggie or what the cross-contamination was like and was told by the manager who was vegan to avoid it.

cs5

I would imagine many veggies & vegans eating this don’t realise how bad the cross contamination is from raw beef to this.

the beer revolu

cs5 wrote: »

I would imagine many veggies & vegans eating this don’t realise how bad the cross contamination is from raw beef to this.

What's your source for how it's handled and cooked?

Ash.J.Williams

i thought i was being a good carnivore by making my veggie missus a mozzerella burger (lynda mcartney) i ended up wolfing down the 2nd one myself and it was amazing!

however although she enjoyed it she said it tasted like beef and wouldn't have it again!

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cs5 wrote: »

As a veggie I’m disgusted that I ate one of these before I found out how they are cooked. The veggie bean burger is microwaved cooked and therefore 100% veggie muck.

The Rebel Whopper is NOT a veggie burger.

Fixed it for you.

Ash.J.Williams

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

It's a pity you had to see it with your own eyes to stop presuming they were just arzeholes making a fuss for the sake of following a fad.

before they knew what a celiac was they used to die young (infants even)

Ash.J.Williams

RWCNT wrote: »

Made my own homemade burgers this evening with proper steak mince from the butchers - no breadcrumbs, egg or onions, just pressed the meat into burger shape, seasoned and griddled them up. Better than anything you'd come by in McDonald's, BK or any of that ****e by a country mile.

Why do these places add so much gunk to their patties? Mince is ****ing cheap like, and surely they could get it even cheaper if they buy it in the massive quantities they need.

becuase your burger will last only a few days and there's will be eternally fine

Assetbacked

cs5 wrote: »

Be. Very. Careful.

That new Rebel Whopper is NOT veggie or vegan friendly.
The reason? The way it’s cooked. It’s cooked with, and on top of raw beef. So veggies and vegans really need to give this a miss. It’s directed at meat eaters who do not want to eat meat all the time. It’s NOT aimed at the veggie/vegan market. Marketing has no mention of it being vegan or veggie.

The Rebel patty literally sits on top of the raw beef as it’s loaded on to the ‘broiler’ to be flame grilled.
Don’t say you didn’t know.

Veggies and vegans run from this.

The patty itself is vegan. That's good enough. Where do you draw the line? Your logic is terribly unreliable. For instance, it could be taken a step further by saying that buying from Burger King in any form is not vegan because they are directly profiting from the slaughter of animals.

Assetbacked

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i thought i was being a good carnivore by making my veggie missus a mozzerella burger (lynda mcartney) i ended up wolfing down the 2nd one myself and it was amazing!

however although she enjoyed it she said it tasted like beef and wouldn't have it again!

Linda does great veggie burgers, really juicy. The sausages she does are probably the best out there and are fully vegan but a bit dry. They are best used for mashing up into sausage meat and then doing something with them rather than just eating them as they are (not that there is anything wrong with them as normal sausages).

Ipso

Assetbacked wrote: »

The patty itself is vegan. That's good enough. Where do you draw the line? Your logic is terribly unreliable. For instance, it could be taken a step further by saying that buying from Burger King in any form is not vegan because they are directly profiting from the slaughter of animals.

On a craft beer forum I follow, someone said their son wouldn't drink mead as it was made from honey. Sometimes I think veganism is a form of attention seeking.
Good thing they weren't around 100,000 years ago or the human race would have died out.

dan1895

In an effort to cut down my red meat intake I tried this and wasn't overly impressed. Consistency is all wrong. If it was nice I would have gone for it again whenever craving a burger.
I've cooked a few home made veggie recipes at home and was pleasantly surprised with the results and will be trying to have a meat free day per week in the new year.

Ash.J.Williams

dan1895 wrote: »

In an effort to cut down my red meat intake I tried this and wasn't overly impressed. Consistency is all wrong. If it was nice I would have gone for it again whenever craving a burger.
I've cooked a few home made veggie recipes at home and was pleasantly surprised with the results and will be trying to have a meat free day per week in the new year.

Try the Lynda McCartney mozzarella burger

Assetbacked

Ipso wrote: »

On a craft beer forum I follow, someone said their son wouldn't drink mead as it was made from honey. Sometimes I think veganism is a form of attention seeking.
Good thing they weren't around 100,000 years ago or the human race would have died out.

To be fair, we ate far less meat thousands of years ago and subsided more on a plant-based diet.

But I agree that there are vegan Nazis out there that try to make everything black and white by creating rules for vegans. Unfortunately, you will find a lot of those vegan Nazi types of the type that needs to label everything and put everything and everyone into groups.

Personally, I am not a vegan for reasons being that I eat fish and honey. I don't label this, I just get on with it.

cs5

the beer revolu wrote: »

What's your source for how it's handled and cooked?

A friend who manages a BK. If you don’t believe me, go to any BK and ask if the cooking of the Rebel Whopper is veggie friendly. The patty literally sits on top of where raw beef is stored. That’s why NONE of the posters or advertising mentions it being a veggie option - because it’s not.

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cs5 wrote: »

A friend who manages a BK. If you don’t believe me, go to any BK and ask if the cooking of the Rebel Whopper is veggie friendly. The patty literally sits on top of where raw beef is stored. That’s why NONE of the posters or advertising mentions it being a veggie option - because it’s not.

Ah that's a shame, glad I hadn't tried it. At least that presumably means the bean burger isn't going anywhere. It is still good to have as an option for meat eaters or for veggies who don't mind but I'd as soon eat a patty cooked in the same oil as meat as I'd eat one cooked in with a turd tbh.

Dakota Dan

con___manx1 wrote: »

Why do you care what other people eat?
Beef farming is one of the worst polluters in this country. Just think of all those cow farts floating into the atmosphere next time you go to burger King and eat a few cows mushed together on a bun

Cows rarely fart, they belch and don’t you think that with cows being around for thousands of years that your imaginary apocalypse would have happened already?

Dakota Dan

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Try the Lynda McCartney mozzarella burger

If it’s anything like her sausages it will be pure over processed sh1te.

Jamsiek

Ipso wrote: »

They dont get enough protein to run.

...and yet many athletes are veggie

Unearthly

Jamsiek wrote: »

...and yet many athletes are veggie

It's a major success story for meat marketing that so many people think you can't get protein from plant food. It's not even an opinion, it just goes against reality and fact.

I'd consider those people no better than flat earthers

Potential-Monke

Unearthly wrote: »

It's a major success story for meat marketing that so many people think you can't get protein from plant food. It's not even an opinion, it just goes against reality and fact.

I never believed that, considering my mother was brought up in a house where only the father of the house got the meat and they lived on spud, veg and broth. But, and genuine question here as I tried Googling and maybe I'm not using the correct terms, but can a vegan lifestyle be followed and health, getting all nutrients and vitamins required, on products that are grown in Ireland only?

I don't know much about veg myself, quite the carnivore here, and my knowledge of vegan diets is non-existent as it's not something I can ever see myself considering, let alone following. But you hear from some people who are anti-vegan that you can't get it on locally (ie: Ireland) grown produce and some of it needs to be shipped in from other countries. I dunno!

Unearthly

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I never believed that, considering my mother was brought up in a house where only the father of the house got the meat and they lived on spud, veg and broth. But, and genuine question here as I tried Googling and maybe I'm not using the correct terms, but can a vegan lifestyle be followed and health, getting all nutrients and vitamins required, on products that are grown in Ireland only?

I don't know much about veg myself, quite the carnivore here, and my knowledge of vegan diets is non-existent as it's not something I can ever see myself considering, let alone following. But you hear from some people who are anti-vegan that you can't get it on locally (ie: Ireland) grown produce and some of it needs to be shipped in from other countries. I dunno!

Good morning happy Christmas

To be honest food growth is a topic I don't really know about but the people in the know say it can't as vegans eat foods that aren't suitable to be grown here.

Few lads on here, Gozunda and _Brian can go into a lot more detail

YFlyer

Unearthly wrote: »

Good morning happy Christmas

To be honest food growth is a topic I don't really know about but the people in the know say it can't as vegans eat foods that aren't suitable to be grown here.

Few lads on here, Gozunda and _Brian can go into a lot more detail

Nearly every person eats food that is not grown in Ireland .

gozunda

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I never believed that, considering my mother was brought up in a house where only the father of the house got the meat and they lived on spud, veg and broth. But, and genuine question here as I tried Googling and maybe I'm not using the correct terms, but can a vegan lifestyle be followed and health, getting all nutrients and vitamins required, on products that are grown in Ireland only? I don't know much about veg myself, quite the carnivore here, and my knowledge of vegan diets is non-existent as it's not something I can ever see myself considering, let alone following. But you hear from some people who are anti-vegan that you can't get it on locally (ie: Ireland) grown produce and some of it needs to be shipped in from other countries. I dunno!

Highlighting that the usual anti agriculture stuff is mainly crap is not being 'anti vegan' by any stretch of the imagination - even though some would indeed be happy to keep screaming that I'm sure Lol

gozunda

Unearthly wrote: »

Good morning happy Christmas

To be honest food growth is a topic I don't really know about but the people in the know say it can't as vegans eat foods that aren't suitable to be grown here.Few lads on here, Gozunda and _Brian can go into a lot more detail

And happy Christmas to you Unearthly . Thanks for name drop once again - I'm really not sure what point you're making there - but I've no idea whether there are people here who eat a solely Irish based plant food diet. Fair play if they do. Surely you might be more knowledgeable in that area no?

Kasper P

hi guys, just an update, I was watching some streaming services (for some reason I have been watching shows more suitable for women: fleabag, orange is the new black, Grey's Anatomy) and I saw some advertisements for a new item: the meat-free meatball marinara from Subway

I don't know about you but I am very tempted to try this item. I enjoyed the rebel whopper, and sometimes even as vegetarian, you are attracted to the novelty of these dishes you enjoyed in your youth when you had not learnt the joys of cooking superior vegetarian food at home. So I'm going to buy one tomorrow. Actually I only rarely eat processed foods at home, I love to cook vegetarian food from all over the world for my dinner guests, but yes, I will enjoy this dirty little ditty for my break tomorrow. Who is joining?

UI_Paddy

Had my first ever Rebel Whopper today. I thought it was delicious. It does have a similar texture and feel to beef burgers, I did feel like I got a few more veggies but overall I would recommend to either diet.

Also never knew about the meatless meatball Marinara until I saw it advertised at a bus shelter yesterday. Will definitely give it a try soon.