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Can a Ford Transit Custom be driven on a standard class B licence?

  • 14-11-2019 8:57am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭


    Is a class B standard can license legal for Ford Transit Custom van ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    If it has a MAM, DGVW of 3500kg or less then yes.

    Basically a B licence covers you to drive a vehicle with a designed maximum loaded weight of up to 3500kg.

    Google the specs of the van online and you will get it’s details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Off the back of this. What's the category for a LWB transit. And has anyone done the test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    listermint wrote: »
    Off the back of this. What's the category for a LWB transit. And has anyone done the test.

    B should do no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    listermint wrote: »
    Off the back of this. What's the category for a LWB transit. And has anyone done the test.

    Vast majority of transits including LWB can be driven on regular B licence (with exception of 9+ passenger minibuses)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Willywally


    I have a LWB high roof VW crafter and my B license covers it no problem. Once its under 3500kg a B license is all you need


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    As a general rule on Transits, if it is >3500kgs MAM and needs a c or c1 license, it will have twin wheels on each side of the rear axel, but not all Transits with twin rear wheels have >3500kgs MAM.

    I don't think the Transit Custom comes with a twin rear wheel option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,699 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    All Transit Custom models are below 3.5Ton so can be driven on a B license.

    It's very rare to see a full Size transit that has a GVW over 3.5Ton, but there are some Jumbo 450/470 out there that would need a C1/C license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    R.O.R wrote: »
    All Transit Custom models are below 3.5Ton so can be driven on a B license.

    It's very rare to see a full Size transit that has a GVW over 3.5Ton, but there are some Jumbo 450/470 out there that would need a C1/C license.

    They'd be unlikely to be plated over 3500kgs unless they have a box body or a tipper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I've a trafic at the moment on my B. But was considering converting a sprinter , Ducato or similar lwb to a camper. Wanted to see if I need to license up to drive it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    listermint wrote: »
    I've a trafic at the moment on my B. But was considering converting a sprinter , Ducato or similar lwb to a camper. Wanted to see if I need to license up to drive it.

    Typically, Ducato Campers are all under 3500kgs unless they have a tag axel. There are some exceptions that go to 3850kgs or so wirh the help of Air Suspension.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    I don't think the Transit Custom comes with a twin rear wheel option.

    Transit Custom is front wheel drive only, so I'd say you're right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    my employer in my van driving days had a fleet of twin wheel box bodied transits and noone had a C1 license (except me) I always suspected they should have on a van that size.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Wouldn’t they have a tachograph if that licence was required?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,012 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Isambard wrote: »
    my employer in my van driving days had a fleet of twin wheel box bodied transits and noone had a C1 license (except me) I always suspected they should have on a van that size.
    My employer currently rents a couple of twin wheel Transits with box bodies. The rental company has "Drive this van on your car licence" printed on the rear.

    I imagine that the vast majority of (non-specialist) vans are built to be driven on a B licence. Otherwise potential buyers would just go elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Exactly.
    Large vans like Ford Transit, Iveco Daily, etc. in vast majority of cases have DGVW of not more than 3500kg allowing them to be driven on B licence.

    Above vans with DGVW over 3500kg would be very very rare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭enumbers


    What this 3500kg weight ends up with is a large quantity of the bigger transits and sprinters etc been vastly overweight when they have anything other than feathers in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    A big transit can carry 1500kg before being over the limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭enumbers


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    A big transit can carry 1500kg before being over the limit.
    full pallet of anything dense is 1000kg how many pallets are people putting in them. even more of a problem on lwb sprinter etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    We got a dyna 150 tipper built once and I think the payload was 500kg!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭enumbers


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    We got a dyna 150 tipper built once and I think the payload was 500kg!

    shows how ridiculous the ratings are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    enumbers wrote: »
    shows how ridiculous the ratings are

    The problem is that once you exceed 3500kg DGVW then it's completely different kettle of fish.
    Tachographs, speed limiters, driver's rest periods, road haulage licensing, high tolls in most EU countries, higher insurance, etc...

    In short - cost of purchasing and operating a 5 tonne transit would be multiple of cost of purchasing and running 3.5 tonne transit.
    That's why people want them, even if they plan overloading them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    CiniO wrote: »
    Exactly.
    Large vans like Ford Transit, Iveco Daily, etc. in vast majority of cases have DGVW of not more than 3500kg allowing them to be driven on B licence.

    Above vans with DGVW over 3500kg would be very very rare.

    Iveco Daily and Ford Transit are very different beasts, the Daily starts at 3500kg goes up to 7500kg, the max on a Transit chassis is 4250kg AFAIK but maybe it goes a little higher now that it's US market also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,012 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    enumbers wrote: »
    full pallet of anything dense is 1000kg how many pallets are people putting in them. even more of a problem on lwb sprinter etc
    That reminds me of an occasion about 20 years ago when I was asked to drop a Isuzu Trooper and trailer with 2 pallets from north Co Dublin to Kilkenny. It was a dark wet Friday night. I got about 2km up the road and turned back. Pallets were 1,000kgs each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I forget the threshold but campers become VRT exempt above a certain weight. So you can buy a heavier one in Germany, bring it back and not pay VRT.

    The savings there might pay for the cost of upgrading your licence.


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