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Anyone selling or smuggling drugs should get life.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote:
    It was Nixon that started the war on drugs. Your knowledge of the subject is what's infantile.


    What age are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What age are you?

    That's hardly relevant, though I'm 26. What age are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote:
    That's hardly relevant, though I'm 26.


    I think it's relevant enough, you come across as being rather immature, this is an extremely interesting subject matter, and many posters would be willing to have a mature debate about it, if you engaged so, name calling isn't exactly mature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I think it's relevant enough, you come across as being rather immature, this is an extremely interesting subject matter, and many posters would be willing to have a mature debate about it, if you engaged so, name calling isn't exactly mature

    I never engaged in name-calling, I referred to someone as infantile, who as called me the same. Go preach to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    I don't drink or smoke. I'm also not stupid enough to try something as addictive as cocaine, nor use MDMA.

    Your loss Pmacv1;);) I've never smoked, but the other 3 are great craic :D

    Do you drink tea or coffee, coca cola, red bull?

    Or do you live entirely on organic lettuce and distilled mineral water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    It was Nixon that started the war on drugs. Your knowledge of the subject is what's infantile.

    True, but his aides have since come out and admitted it was a complete lie to turn hippes and African-Americans into pariahs, and had nothing to do with social safety.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    It was Nixon that started the war on drugs. Your knowledge of the subject is what's infantile.

    Fair enough. So Nixon instead of Reagan. Now do you wish to debate any of the rest of the post.

    "First rule of economics. Supply will always meet demand. So you will always have a supply of drug dealers. The penalties have not stopped the trade growing. Maybe a different approach is needed. Or you could just keep doing what we've been doing since Reagan (now Nixon) started the war on drugs. That's been effective hasn't it?"

    Btw your suggestion in the title thread will do nothing to stop the drugs trade. It's a simplistic view that prohibition and harsh sanctions will win the war on drugs. Which it never will. So you can keep doing the same thing over and over again with the same outcomes. Which is plainly ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Ah jaysus, what is the world coming to?
    If you can't trust Tricky Dicky who can you trust?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Until that day, smugglers should be shot.

    So let me get this straight....

    You are happy to allow the supply so long as it's become legal and so long as it is not, the law breaker should be killed?

    Seems to me that you are not trying to take a stance based on the effect of the crime, only that a crime is being committed.


    Imaging the day that a drug becomes legal and all of a sudden you're like... "whoops, shouldn't have killed that guy yesterday while the law was different, turns out that today he would have been ok. oh well."

    Any other crimes that should result in death? breaking liquor licensing conditions ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,597 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    OP sounds like someone who just came out of a Christian indoctrination camp.

    Live your puritanical life all you want, but just so you know, your preachy attitude will only leave you sad and alone.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's your opinion of the Sackler family OP? They grew the opioid epidemic in America legally. Oxycontin is the absolute definition of a gateway drug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    I'm clever enough to not associate with anyone stupid enough to smuggle or sell drugs.

    How do you know ?

    Have you personally asked everyone you associate with ?


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    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    They should be put into a rehabilitation program. Bottom line is if there are no drugs available, they'll have none to take.

    How's that working out


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    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    It was Nixon that started the war on drugs. Your knowledge of the subject is what's infantile.

    You're actually wrong on this. A man name Harry Anslinger is the first man responsible for what we know as the modern War on Drugs.

    https://timeline.com/harry-anslinger-racist-war-on-drugs-prison-industrial-complex-fb5cbc281189

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Holier (Holyer?) than thou comes to mind :D

    If OP tells me they smoke weed but hate 'illegal drugs' I will bust my arse laughing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,864 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Lay off the drugs OP.

    A lot of stoopider than usual threads in the last few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans


    Arghus wrote: »
    Lay off the drugs OP.

    A lot of stoopider than usual threads in the last few days.

    The same few newbies starting multiple threads in the past few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    The same few newbies starting multiple threads in the past few weeks.

    decades


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I swear this thread is guerrilla marketing for an upcoming pro legalisation politician given the strawmans OP has put forward.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    The same few newbies starting multiple threads in the past few weeks.

    Russian bots!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Given all the talk about Michela McCollum, she, like any smuggler or dealer should be locked up.

    life in prison doesnt deter drug dealers, short term prison sentences wont cut it either, but ya let's keep trying that for another 50 years, while drugs have never been more really available, cheaper, better quality and more kids are using/selling, savage cabbage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    "get a life you drug addicts"

    TUNE :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Oh yeah, giving junkies an open supply of heroin is a wonderful idea.

    decriminalisation, free heroin and proper addiction treatment actually sorted out Portugals massive heroin problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    You should read between the lines sometimes too.

    what people do between lines is their own business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    We are always 10 years behind america,
    marijuana should be legalised and taxed ,
    it,ll reduce revenue going to drug gangs.
    Anyone over 18 should be able to buy it like whisky or wine .
    you,ll have to show id to buy it.
    Even people doing very serious crimes get out after a few years,
    judges know we have have limited no of prison cells.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    pure.conya wrote: »
    what people do between lines is their own business

    If people are doing anything between the lines, they need to improve their eye-hand co-ordination...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    pure.conya wrote: »
    decriminalisation, free heroin and proper addiction treatment actually sorted out Portugals massive heroin problem

    Yes and there's also been a massive surge in people engaging in high-rise opioid use in Portugal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Yes and there's also been a massive surge in people engaging in high-rise opioid use in Portugal.

    That's new to me. Is that just taking heroin on anything above the 20th floor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Yes and there's also been a massive surge in people engaging in high-rise opioid use in Portugal.

    Oh you're back. And not responding to the barage of points to counter your bull****.

    Oh and as for this one? Corellation =/= causation (even if it's true - which I'm not sure it is, coming from you)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Oh yeah, giving junkies an open supply of heroin is a wonderful idea.

    Some people just wanna watch the world gurn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Oh you're back. And not responding to the barage of points to counter your bull****.

    Oh and as for this one? Corellation =/= causation (even if it's true - which I'm not sure it is, coming from you)

    You're a loser drug addict.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    pure.conya wrote:
    decriminalisation, free heroin and proper addiction treatment actually sorted out Portugals massive heroin problem

    I some how seriously doubt that, but I do think it's a better management of the issue.

    Pmacv1 wrote:
    You're a loser drug addict.

    Yea, this is this serious lack of emotional intelligence that was spoken about before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I some how seriously doubt that, but I do think it's a better management of the issue.




    Yea, this is this serious lack of emotional intelligence that was spoken about before

    Your mother had a serious lack of emotional intelligence last night, big teeth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote:
    Your mother had a serious lack of emotional intelligence last night, big teeth.


    26! You may need help to gain this understanding of intelligence, the world of drugs certainly is an interesting one, but emotional maturity is required for that conversation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    26! You may need help to gain this understanding of intelligence, the world of drugs certainly is an interesting one, but emotional maturity is required for that conversation

    Well considering you hardly have the intelligence to string a sentence together, I'll take my chances without your sage advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote:
    Well considering you hardly have the intelligence to string a sentence together, I'll take my chances without your sage advice.


    By the looks of it, you re predominantly left brained, which means you're largely engaging in your logical side of your brain, the subject matter of something complex as drugs, not only requires your left brain, but also requires your right brain, or emotional brain, and sometimes more so than your left brain. This could be why you're struggling to engage in the conversation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Drugs should be legal full stop, if you want your body to experience something as a reaction to imbibing some chemical or another that should be your choice.

    And what if they have children or other people in their care who have to suffer the effects of that?
    Psychoactive drugs are illegal or prescription because they could potentially make normal people's behaviour unpredictable and dangerous to other innocent people who shouldnt have to suffer effects of their choices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    wakka12 wrote:
    And what if they have children or other people in their care who have to suffer the effects of that?


    Great point, we should keep things as they are, as this currently doesn't occur


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    I'm clever enough to not associate with anyone stupid enough to smuggle or sell drugs.

    that maybe so [in your opinion] but families have a way of letting one down at times.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,204 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Cocaine is the scummiest drug. Anyone selfish enough to use it, deserves jail time.

    It is, an absolute scumbag wànkers drug. I’ve seen people take it who I always considered nice, decent people just exude completely wánker personalities and turn into the most boring, self absorbed, dull absolute despicable cûnt bags going...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    , the subject matter of something complex as drugs, not only requires your left brain, but also requires your right brain, or emotional brain

    According to who? You?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    According to who? You?

    not necessarily no, but i would agree with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    not necessarily no, but i would agree with it

    Wonderful. That's fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Wonderful. That's fantastic.

    thats good to hear, you may just be engaging in your emotional brain, its a good start


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Pmacv1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    oh dear, i spoke too soon. you obviously dont want to be an active member of boards, ah well

    Oh no! A virgin online doesn't like me! Whatever shall I do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Oh no! A virgin online doesn't like me! Whatever shall I do?

    oh jaysus, dare i ask, do you have kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Pmacv1 wrote: »
    Oh no! A virgin online doesn't like me! Whatever shall I do?

    Mod

    Knocking off winding others up, perhaps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Drugs should be legal full stop, if you want your body to experience something as a reaction to imbibing some chemical or another that should be your choice.
    I agree, as long as the user funds their own lifestyle and doesn't burden the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I agree, as long as the user funds their own lifestyle and doesn't burden the state.

    but of course theres gonna be a need for a functioning health care system with such an approach


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭pure.conya


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I some how seriously doubt that, but I do think it's a better management of the issue.




    Yea, this is this serious lack of emotional intelligence that was spoken about before

    I've met and enjoyed the company of the guy that the Portuguese government turned to when they needed the country's drug problem sorted


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