New NOx VRT levy

colm_mcm

Should be quite low

The Guvnor

Excuse the click bait title!:D

I recently as in this afternoon discovered the joys of NOX.

I was horrified as initially I left it blank and it defaulted to the max of €4850 on both an x1 and x5.

After I realised the horrific sh1te I was dealing with I went about finding the exact NOX for the x5.

It's a mission. I know it's on a V5 etc but my question is this - is there an easier way to find based on the reg of the car?

I've never seen it listed on the likes of autotrader etc.

It can as we know be hard enough to find the correct model x5 etc on the vrt page - this one has 158 co2 and was a task getting that to come up.

NOX was estimated at 41g per km.

Lastly I'd say why does the revenue not just automate the nox and lump it in with the vrt figure - based on the car we select they would/could know the nox etc.

It seems like a great big waste of time to me tbh.

User1998

If it has ULEZ on Autotrader it means it has a Euro 6 engine so a maximum of €600 Nox. You can select “Only show ULEZ compliant cars” as a search filter

BCA shows the nox amounts so you could look for similar cars there as well

There is also a Revenue spreadsheet of all make and models Nox amounts and some websites in the uk that give Nox details, but really you’d need to call the dealer to confirm the Nox just to be sure, definitely a pain buying an old diesel now

colm_mcm

A lot of BMW X Cars were Euro 6 way earlier than they needed to be.

User1998

Just checked there, there are Euro 6 X1’s and X5’s from as early as 2013 so less then €600 nox

Just use the ULEZ filter when searching for cars and budget €600 for Nox, most likely it will be a good bit lower than that anyway

Alanvtec

The other half wants a newer car, she is looking at Suv's (not my choiceðŸ˜) KIA Sportage, hyundai Tucson, but has to be leather and really all the extras.
So the question I have is there really a saving now buying second hand in the uk with the added tax? Should I keep my searching to Ireland because obviously there is far better choice of spec in the UK.

pablo128

The car she is after, (Kia/Hyundai) has a high nox figure. Look at something else or else buy in Ireland.

punisher5112

Depends so much on year and engine.....

If petrol max charge is €600....

If diesel max is €4850.....

Pick cars that have low Nox and you would have a better selection in UK.....

colm_mcm

pablo128 wrote: »

The car she is after, (Kia/Hyundai) has a high nox figure. Look at something else or else buy in Ireland.

If the car is Euro 6 then it won’t have a high nox figure. All Tucsons are Euro6 for example.

Far as I know nox on a 2016 Tucson 1.7 Blue Drive is €180.

MicK10rt

Hi all, due to move back to ireland from uk in August, wondering if there is an exemption on Nox tax, I already know about the vrt exemption, just wondering about nox. Was hoping to bring car with me. 2015 passat 2.0 don't want to get stung

L-M

MicK10rt wrote: »

Hi all, due to move back to ireland from uk in August, wondering if there is an exemption on Nox tax, I already know about the vrt exemption, just wondering about nox. Was hoping to bring car with me. 2015 passat 2.0 don't want to get stung

What’s the NOX figure on your V5? Should be low enough on that Gen Passat

MicK10rt

L-M wrote: »

What’s the NOX figure on your V5? Should be low enough on that Gen Passat

I just went looking for my V5 and couldn't find it, would anyone know if there is an exemption like the vrt?

L-M

MicK10rt wrote: »

I just went looking for my V5 and couldn't find it, would anyone know if there is an exemption like the vrt?

Im going to say no, but I don’t know for sure.

The reason so is that if someone buys a new car and has an exemption for VAT and VRT for a disability etc, they don’t get an exemption from the NOX tax.

In any case it’s going to be worth bringing the car home.

MicK10rt

L-M wrote: »

What’s the NOX figure on your V5? Should be low enough on that Gen Passat

After much frustration and pulling half the house apart I've found it.. 067 is the figure quoted, my mk7 golf from 2013 with a 1.6, same engine platform was. 118. Big difference for basically same engine.

L-M

So that’s 405 euro of a charge. If applicable

michellie

MicK10rt wrote: »

Hi all, due to move back to ireland from uk in August, wondering if there is an exemption on Nox tax, I already know about the vrt exemption, just wondering about nox. Was hoping to bring car with me. 2015 passat 2.0 don't want to get stung

TOR Exemption covers VRT and NOX

MicK10rt

michellie wrote: »

TOR Exemption covers VRT and NOX

Cheers thank god for that!

michellie

MicK10rt wrote: »

Cheers thank god for that!

No problem, your exemption has to be applied for directly to your local revenue office before your VRT appointment, they will post you a letter that you bring to your VRT appointment.

L-M wrote: »

Im going to say no, but I don’t know for sure.

The reason so is that if someone buys a new car and has an exemption for VAT and VRT for a disability etc, they don’t get an exemption from the NOX tax.

In any case it’s going to be worth bringing the car home.

Exemptions cover VAT, VRT(to a certain limit) & NOx

MicK10rt

michellie wrote: »

No problem, your exemption has to be applied for directly to your local revenue office before your VRT appointment, they will post you a letter that you bring to your VRT appointment.




Exemptions cover VAT, VRT(to a certain limit) & NOx

Thank you, just one final question, what is the vrt allowance or how is it calculated. For years I was thinking there was no limit.

L-M

michellie wrote: »

No problem, your exemption has to be applied for directly to your local revenue office before your VRT appointment, they will post you a letter that you bring to your VRT appointment.




Exemptions cover VAT, VRT(to a certain limit) & NOx

They don’t cover NOX on a new car bought under the Disabled driver/passenger scheme

Edit. Funnily enough I just googled it and it now seems to be included. Off to chase some customers, lol.

michellie

MicK10rt wrote: »

Thank you, just one final question, what is the vrt allowance or how is it calculated. For years I was thinking there was no limit.

The maximum exemption limit for disabled drivers/passenger exemptions run from €10,000 to €22,000. As far as I know theres no limit for TOR exemptions.

MicK10rt

michellie wrote: »

The maximum exemption limit for disabled drivers/passenger exemptions run from €10,000 to €22,000. As far as I know theres no limit for TOR exemptions.

I was doing a bit of research today and was wondering if this nox tax applies to commercial vehicles. I understand that if I bring my van back aswel I will have to pay the standard 200 euro vrt charge, but wondering if these too are subject to the Nox charge. Was going to hold onto it to help move stuff home. But if its not viable to do so I will sell here.

colm_mcm

Nox charge doesn’t apply to non-crewcab commercials.

Eric Cartman

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nox charge doesn’t apply to non-crewcab commercials.

pr*cks... whats the upper cap on a diesel ?

colm_mcm

€4850 or something.

L-M

Im going to assume any commercial has huge NOX because they don’t fall under the same stringent standards that passengers cars do.

Included in that being the likes of 9 seater Shuttles, etc

michellie

Only CAT A crew cabs are subject to NOX. They're the only commercial subject to it.

colm_mcm

michellie wrote: »

Only CAT A crew cabs are subject to NOX. They're the only commercial subject to it.

By that you mean less than 3.5t GVW?

MF290

I was trying to work out how much the nox adds to the vrt for a 2013 1.4hdi peugeot 208, it's adding up to roughly €2500 based on 159mg/km NOX and €1000 CO2. That can hardly be correct?

Atlantic Dawn

MF290 wrote: »

I was trying to work out how much the nox adds to the vrt for a 2013 1.4hdi peugeot 208, it's adding up to roughly €2500 based on 159mg/km NOX and €1000 CO2. That can hardly be correct?

I'm afraid it is, they are trying to discourage importation of high NOX vehicles. Any diesel car pre 2015 will be pricey.

cnocbui

Get one with a petrol engine?

MF290

It was a relation in the uk that had this car for sale.
Vrt for a 2015 520d is 500 euro cheaper!!

User1998

Thats because it has a Euro 6 engine. Look at the 2016 equivalent of the car you want and the nox will be very low

ELM327

michellie wrote: »

Only CAT A crew cabs are subject to NOX. They're the only commercial subject to it.

Whats a cat A crewcab?
Crewcabs are generally* cat B (if below 3.5t GVW) or cat C if above 3.5t)


Examples of Category A vehicles include cars (saloons, estates, hatchbacks, convertibles, coupes, MPVs, Jeeps etc.) and minibuses with less than 10 permanently fitted seats (including driver’s seat). In EU terms, a vehicle of classification M1 is generally a Category A vehicle. The rate of tax chargeable is based on the level of CO2 emissions for the vehicle at the time of manufacture.

* Some may fit to cat C, in which case VRT is a flat 200N1 vehicles that, at the time of manufacture, have less than four seats and have a technically permissible maximum laden mass weight that is greater than 130 per cent of the mass in service of the vehicle with bodywork in running order also fit into this category.
T1 to T5 agricultural vehicles fit into this category.
The VRT rate applicable to Category C vehicles is a flat rate of €200.

mp3ireland2

What's the easiest free way to find the NOx for potential car? Stuggling to find a website to give me the info for a fod focus 1.5tdci the 2015/2016 model (it may have be differnent for new ones). Apologies if the question was already asked but i coudn't see any links

CtrlAltDelete

This is Ireland. The government don't want you importing cars yourself. Works better with a middle man to siphon off a few more euros. Thus, there's no clear straightforward way to find out the nox charge. I think there might be a UK site. Someone mentioned it further back in the thread.

L-M

The very easy way to do it as ask the person selling the car to check the V5 (Their version of our registration cert). It’s written on that.

CtrlAltDelete

Depends on the age of the car. It may or may not be on the V5.

pablo128

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

Depends on the age of the car. It may or may not be on the V5.

If it's that old you'll probably be whacked out of it on a diesel.

CtrlAltDelete

*probably.

There is however some 2013 BMWs that are surprisingly low.

It's a bit of a minefield. Research required.

gerryirl

is there a searchable database of cars for this nox charge..

Babymike1604

Can anyone help me out here what are the charges on bringing in a ford ranger wildtrack 16/17 is the NOX tax in the vrt calculator or is it separate

User1998

Its separate but being a 2016/2017 the maximum is €600, will probably be more like €200-€350

Edit:

2016 Ford Ranger 3.2 200 TDCI Wildtrack 4WD
Nox 0.080 = €600

I’ve no idea about commercial VRT but certain commercials don’t pay for Nox at all, not sure about your one.

Babymike1604

User1998 wrote: »

Its separate but being a 2016/2017 the maximum is €600, will probably be more like €200-€350

Edit:

2016 Ford Ranger 3.2 200 TDCI Wildtrack 4WD
Nox 0.080 = €600

I’ve no idea about commercial VRT but certain commercials don’t pay for Nox at all, not sure about your one.

Thank you

KingoftheSpoof

Hi all,

If a car is Ulez complaint in the UK - is it a euro 6 engine?

Some 3 litre Mercedes, BMW etc showing as Ulez complaint - would this be right?

Thanks

colm_mcm

Yes. ULEZ needs Euro4 for petrol and Euro6 for diesel.

rabbitinlights

If you've found a car you like, ensure you see the V5 - don't rely on the autotrader advert for the ULEZ/NOX status.

Get the dealer to send a photo of it.

ma88

Any ideas of how to deal of with a new car, 6 months old, where's no nox listed on the v5, ive googled and it says that v5 issued after april 2019 have no nox value added on!

L-M

Sounds strange. It should be low anyway. Where is the car coming from and what is it?

ma88

L-M wrote: »

Sounds strange. It should be low anyway. Where is the car coming from and what is it?

The new peugeot Rifter(5 seater) 1.5 diesel, im not wondering of nox being too high, but planning to buy it and as long i can't provide proof of it, they'll be charging maximum possible ~ €4800, + vrt on top ~ €4+k...
Dealing with dealer from Scotland, they were surprised about that aswell, some have-some don't, where i used to buy b4, they're checking it up now to see if they can get the CoC cert. with nox on it!
Did register a 15 reg Merc in jan, where's nox was €280 - 2.2d, on that v5 was written, on this 1 its not ffs!