Climate Morons on The Late Late Show

threeball

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is there no way to drain a certain amount of water from the sea, I know if my sink was overflowing I'd drain some out. The North Pole has no land? It's purely ice over water, so how does it increase sea levels?
If I take a glass of water and put in a large ice cube, and then let it melt the level on the glass would not have increased.

Where do you put billions of cubic metres of water when you pump it out?
Greenland is rock covered in Glaciers. Antartica is similar. Average depth is about 1.5km. Good luck finding somewhere to put that much water. Two days heavy rain here and half the towns in the country are flooded.

high_king

20Cent wrote: »

Ok boomer.

OK, Turkey

high_king

John_Rambo wrote: »

All I did was commend RTE on their coverage of the climate crisis.

No you didn't, you came on to boast to us all how green you are, and then got caught out, deal with it.

John_Rambo wrote: »

I've been aware of climate change for a long time and have tried my best to adjust my lifestyle to reduce my own carbon emissions.

but forgot you posted this on the motoring forum

John_Rambo wrote: »

Just back from driving the full Wild Atlantic Way after working on the marketing project for years.

As a keen motorist I'd advise you to calm down, get out of the traffic, open up the throttle and do likewise!

You'll soon change your mind about what real rural Ireland has to offer the motorist!!

John_Rambo

high_king wrote: »

No you didn't, you came on to boast to us all how green you are, and then got caught out, deal with i

No, not at all. Driving's easier on the environment than flying so we went on a driving holiday. Plan to do the same next year. Camping is good too, better than hotels. Never said I didn't drive, In fact, I love driving (not in traffic), been a keen motorist for years. Just choose to leave the car behind when I can cycle.

Hego Damask

Motivator wrote: »

Ireland represents 0.06% of the worlds population. What we do in this country has absolutely no impact on the world’s climate. At 36 years of age, I really don’t need to be lectured by some jumped up privately schooled toadface on a Friday evening telling me to buy second hand jeans in order to save the planet.

And don't forgot all of these little twats are ferried into school every day in Daddys Jeep.

_Kaiser_

Climate change has become the latest trendy crusade and particularly here in Ireland where we have an instinctive need for validation and attaboys from our "betters" elsewhere (it's why we soak the worst of this stuff up like a sponge).

Could we all do more to cut down on waste.. Of course! But the reality is that we're a small insignificant island with a population less than most major cities. Taxing ourselves into the ground and living like we're in the Third World is going to make very little difference to the larger issues and won't until the Western world decides that capitalism and consumerism isn't going to last forever.

So I'll continue to live as I do thanks. I don't drive a new car, I generate a black bag of rubbish every fortnight, and I don't worry about the sky falling in no more than I did in the 80s as a kid with nuclear armageddon the threat then.

It's no way to live (especially for kids) and I refuse to spend my days worrying about something I can do very little about.

is_that_so

threeball wrote: »

How can you say you are going to implement X,Y and Z over 10yrs, a very short window, and let almost an entire year just float by without even trying a leg. They put a report out there and are waiting for an election to see if they'll even bother implementing some of it.
And its not my opinion that its unrealistic. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that every single car sold between now and 2030 won't be electric and it needs to be if we are to reach the 900,000 in the report. Its also not my opinion that retrofitting 600,000 heat pumps isn't going to happen as the housing stock isn't suitable nor do we have enough people qualified to fit them in the quantities required. The rest of it is pure poppycock too but perhaps you'd like to tell us what you think will actually get done besides just pretending they have realistic plan.

Fine, where's your detailed plan? This is yet another post of let me tell you what's wrong but sorry I've really got nothing to offer except criticism. Let's try something simpler. Name one thing you've actually done to attempt to make a difference.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

How big does a country have to be before people should give a ****? Should Brits, French and Germans take action?

Padre_Pio

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Could we all do more to cut down on waste.. Of course! But the reality is that we're a small insignificant island with a population less than most major cities. Taxing ourselves into the ground and living like we're in the Third World is going to make very little difference to the larger issues and won't until the Western world decides that capitalism and consumerism isn't going to last forever.

That's the exact attitude of the tragedy of the commons.
Everyone is saying "well I'm only one insignificant spec in the world, why should I change"

threeball

is_that_so wrote: »

Fine, where's your detailed plan? This is yet another post of let me tell you what's wrong but sorry I've really got nothing to offer except criticism. Let's try something simpler. Name one thing you've actually done to attempt to make a difference.

I insulated my house to the hilt, installed a heat pump and Pv but it means fcuk all in the overall context. The main thing it will do is save me money. It's not going to affect climate change as no matter how much the individual does it doesn't offset what's happening at corporate and governmental level.

You've on the other hand have offered very little bar a link to the government website. You sound like a FG or Seai shill.

Quantum Erasure

threeball wrote: »

I insulated my house to the hilt, installed a heat pump and Pv but it means fcuk all in the overall context....

I was actually surprised recently when I read that this is the single most effective thing people can do to reduce their carbon footprint. Insulate the fuck out of your house, and install a new, energy efficient boiler / heating system.

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I was actually surprised recently when I read that this is the single most effective thing people can do to reduce their carbon footprint. Insulate the fuck out of your house, and install a new, energy efficient boiler / heating system.

no it isnt

stop churning out kids is #1 by a huge factor

threeball

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I was actually surprised recently when I read that this is the single most effective thing people can do to reduce their carbon footprint. Insulate the fuck out of your house, and install a new, energy efficient boiler / heating system.

On a personal level yes it is but in the grand scheme of things it makes little difference. The vast majority of people in the world don't live like we do, half them live in shacks and there's no way they will be install pv and heat pumps. So there's maybe less than 1bn people this would apply to.
The real issue is the decimation of natural habitats and the destruction of the natural world as well as emissions from big industry. Tackle those and you'll see dramatic change. If you want people to insulate and fit energy efficiency measures tell them how much money it saves rather than how much CO2

is_that_so

threeball wrote: »

I insulated my house to the hilt, installed a heat pump and Pv but it means fcuk all in the overall context. The main thing it will do is save me money. It's not going to affect climate change as no matter how much the individual does it doesn't offset what's happening at corporate and governmental level.

You've on the other hand have offered very little bar a link to the government website. You sound like a FG or Seai shill.

Isn't that word a no-no? Sums up where you're coming from all the same. I guess I'll just have to find a man with an actual plan elsewhere.

threeball

is_that_so wrote: »

Isn't that word a no-no? Sums up where you're coming from all the same. I guess I'll just have to find a man with an actual plan elsewhere.

Certainly no chance of anything coming from you bar government sound bites. You're as useless as they are.

Bdjsjsjs

Third girl to speak: "it is a literally life and death situation"



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

20Cent

Since climate deniers don't understand science or the scientific process the rational community have tried getting children to explain what is happening.

This isn't working either perhaps cartoons or puppet show next.

beejee

Mod note: Jaysus, lad, cop on!

Buford T. Justice

gozunda

20Cent wrote: »

Since climate deniers don't understand science or the scientific process the rational community have tried getting children to explain what is happening. This isn't working either perhaps cartoons or puppet show next.

Since those who use the term 'denier' seem to be doing much the same as medievel peasants who called those whom they didnt agree with ' 'witches' . Pointing out what alarmists are pushing isn't science (or even closely related) - it's simply stating what is evident. Cartoon logic for sure ...

20Cent

gozunda wrote: »

Since those who use the term 'denier' seem to be doing much the same as medievel peasants who called those whom they didnt agree with ' 'witches' . Pointing out what alarmists are pushing isn't science or even closely related - it's simply stating what is evident. Cartoon logic for sure ...

There is no such thing as witches.
Climate change is measurable and real though unfortunately.

Say Your Number

Sure why would you listen to scientists or any experts for that matter when the posters here know everything about f*cking everything.

gozunda

20Cent wrote: »

There is no such thing as witches.
Climate change is measurable and real though unfortunately.

That's the point ... the alarmists help nothing. Calling those pointing this out - 'deniers' amounts to little more than witch hunting ...

Bdjsjsjs

Say Your Number wrote: »

Sure why would you listen to scientists or any experts for that matter when the posters here know everything about f*cking everything.

yeah the 10 year olds are really authoritative here.

Say Your Number

In fairness they can grasp what scientists are saying, a lot of the posters here seem to be struggling.

Bdjsjsjs

Say Your Number wrote: »

In fairness they can grasp what scientists are saying, a lot of the posters here seem to be struggling.

No actually that is not correct IMO. The scientists I have seen discuss this mater discuss it as a grave problem not a life or death threat.

s7ryf3925pivug

ErnestBorgnine wrote: »

Perhaps they were just doing it to feed your need of a smug sense of superiority??

Nothing wrong with feeling superior to assholes.

Hego Damask

Padre_Pio wrote: »

That's the exact attitude of the tragedy of the commons.
Everyone is saying "well I'm only one insignificant spec in the world, why should I change"

Yeah but I think what pisses people off here is the total hypocrisy, these kids scram and demand change but what are they doing in their own lives ?
I'm sure they are still taking lifts in parents SUV, I am sure they all have phones and tablets and replace them regularly - as well as charge them daily of course.

Say Your Number

Bdjsjsjs wrote: »

No actually that is not correct IMO. The scientists I have seen discuss this mater discuss it as a grave problem not a life or death threat.

I've heard scientists say we're on course for a four degree rise by 2100, that sounds like a doomsday scenario.

Doctors room ghost

It says it all about the late late when the only guests they can get,are a bunch of jumped up school clowns blowing sh1te about climate change and a dead Brendan grace and his family asking can you feel his presence from the urn.fcukin spare us.
A few weeks before the ultimate fcukin idiot in blind boy boatclub was on and a fcukin bag on his head.
2019 and that’s the waffle that’s served up as entertainment

Bdjsjsjs

Say Your Number wrote: »

I've heard scientists say we're on course for a four degree rise by 2100, that sounds like a doomsday scenario.

It would be doomsday for many rare species but not for humans. I can't stress this enough. Plenty of modes show human relisence at 4 degree increase.

Fann Linn

Bdjsjsjs wrote: »

It would be doomsday for many rare species but not for humans. I can't stress this enough. Plenty of modes show human relisence at 4 degree increase.

Yep. I just love the 4 degree increase when I leave this place every year for the hols.

Padre_Pio

Bdjsjsjs wrote: »

It would be doomsday for many rare species but not for humans. I can't stress this enough. Plenty of modes show human relisence at 4 degree increase.

And what about the many, many species of flora and fauna we depend on to survive?

Will they flourish at higher temperatures, or will we need to introduce thousands of new species from warmer climates? 2100 is only 80 years away. People living now will be around to see it.

wakka12

Hego Damask wrote: »

Yeah but I think what pisses people off here is the total hypocrisy, these kids scram and demand change but what are they doing in their own lives ?
I'm sure they are still taking lifts in parents SUV, I am sure they all have phones and tablets and replace them regularly - as well as charge them daily of course.

They still have to live a normal life you know?Having a phone is important for that. Unless youve proof 'most' drive in SUVs daily then its meaningless conjecture

Thelonious Monk

So if a student cares about the planet they go to school in SUVs. I dont get this logic.

Bdjsjsjs

Padre_Pio wrote: »

And what about the many, many species of flora and fauna we depend on to survive?

Will they flourish at higher temperatures, or will we need to introduce thousands of new species from warmer climates? 2100 is only 80 years away. People living now will be around to see it.

They tend to be common generalists

20Cent

When faced with a serious issue some people step up to the plate to find solutions and help.

Other pretend it's not happening and slag off the doers.

gozunda

Veda Beautiful Rope wrote: »

Nothing wrong with feeling superior to assholes.

SafeSurfer

Is all climate change at all times a cause for crisis? What level of global temperature has been agreed on that should remain a constant?

Is the whole purpose of climate change mitigation to slow the rate of change or prevent change in global temperature entirely?

20Cent

20Cent wrote: »

When faced with a serious issue some people step up to the plate to find solutions and help.

Other pretend it's not happening and slag off the doers.

hmm

i reckon, throughout history, right, 90% of suggested or demanded responses to crises either didnt work or didnt go into practice because they wouldnt work

and say 90% of reactions to said crises were probably as worthless as, well, 90% of opinion pretty much always is.

in other words, your binary of "my side is solving this like heroes!" and "your side is a horrible set of deniers and will be remembered as such" is a bit....lacking in perspective

the solution to the climate change issue will arrive from one source or another in time, likely not from any area arising from a gang of online or late late show amateur activists.

the sense of smug superiority you get from "at LEAST we are TRYING SOMETHING" or god help us worse yet your genuine belief that the performative lecturing bolloxology currently the trend is actually an achievement is, sad to say, not one iota better than the sense of smug superiority we get from rolling our eyes at ye.

soz

s7ryf3925pivug

gozunda wrote: »

They were leaving fridge doors open. I don't think that qualifies as an opinion.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

20Cent wrote: »

Since climate deniers don't understand science or the scientific process the rational community have tried getting children to explain what is happening.

This isn't working either perhaps cartoons or puppet show next.

Cave paintings would be suitable for many of them.

CiarraiAbu2

https://www.rte.ie/news/youth-assembly/2019/1113/1090623-show-support-for-the-youth-assembly-recommendations/

There is no way they come up with some of these ideas.

Bdjsjsjs

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/youth-assembly/2019/1113/1090623-show-support-for-the-youth-assembly-recommendations/

There is no way they come up with some of these ideas.

Some like doors on freezers are good but already present in many spots and are often the norm abroad. Maybe we need to go better and get double glazed doors

Master of the Omniverse

The assembly of the easily brainwashed,anybody wonder why the government want to bring down the voting age?

Ash.J.Williams

Padre_Pio wrote: »

And what about the many, many species of flora and fauna we depend on to survive?

Will they flourish at higher temperatures, or will we need to introduce thousands of new species from warmer climates? 2100 is only 80 years away. People living now will be around to see it.

In fairness for better or worse there will be new modified flora and fauna just like always

topper75

Fair cold November lads so far.
I think they picked the wrong time of the year to have their climate week. There won't be many customers in to buy the idea of global warming whilst they are defrosting the windscreens.

Padre_Pio

topper75 wrote: »

Fair cold November lads so far.
I think they picked the wrong time of the year to have their climate week. There won't be many customers in to buy the idea of global warming whilst they are defrosting the windscreens.

It's stupid comments like this that make me despair for people.

We're you expecting Bahamas weather instead?
By the time we're getting 25 degrees on an average November morning humanity will be long dead.

Bdjsjsjs

Padre_Pio wrote: »

It's stupid comments like this that make me despair for people.

We're you expecting Bahamas weather instead?
By the time we're getting 25 degrees on an average November morning humanity will be long dead.

Climate change is extremely complex. But warming will for all its problems do some good like boosting yields of many crops.

FrancieBrady

Padre_Pio wrote: »

By the time we're getting 25 degrees on an average November morning humanity will be long dead.

'That'll be the worry of that over,' as me auld granny used to say.

Padre_Pio

Bdjsjsjs wrote: »

Climate change is extremely complex. But warming will for all its problems do some good like boosting yields of many crops.

Where? Here in Ireland maybe.

It'll have the opposite effect in most of the world.