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My friend's long term girlfriend aborted their child without consulting him first.

  • 16-11-2019 8:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭


    My friend and his partner were trying for a child for several months, he has a low sperm count but they continued trying before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment. Fortunately they were successful.


    My friend was over the moon and ecstatic that he was going to be a dad because he thought they wouldn't make it. In addition to the wonderful news, his partner was offered a hard earned promotion at work in the weeks following.



    I was out with him the other night and I noticed he was unsettled, like something was on his mind but wouldn't really talk about it . After a few drinks he became visibly upset and explained that his partner decided to have an abortion and only told him about it after the event and never consulted him beforehand.


    Her reasoning was that since she was offered the new job, she didn't want to go on maternity leave so soon. She was subject to one years probation and was "scared that her maternity leave and pregnancy would jeopardise her probation".


    He is gutted and I am appalled that she or any woman would have an abortion without at least consulting the father. My friend is devastated but his partner seems completely unapologetic and appears to have the attitude that it's "none of his business" and "It was my decision to make"



    They were living together for 4 years, renting an apartment. He has moved out after a massive row and I have offered him to stay in my house.


    Is this what Ireland voted for?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Gonad


    I know there are plenty of bad blokes out there who do some really bad stuff to women.

    But I have heard some stories about what women have done to men and they can so cruel in other ways. How could she have done that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,153 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Awful smell of bull wafting off that post.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    OP’s posting history makes me doubt his sincerity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    IVF costs about 5 grand does it not


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No thread on here is ever true apparently, so nobody should ever bother posting anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    JizzBeans wrote: »

    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    I voted for Girls Aloud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    What subjects did you pick for your leaving OP,

    How is 5th year treating you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I blame the teachers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    you nearly had me...nearly...but that last sentence...rooky mistake :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Hypothetical scenario


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    I blame the teachers.

    I knew it was the teachers fault, even when it wasn’t I knew it was their fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    AllForIt wrote: »
    Hypothetical scenario
    Well if it is a hypothetical scenario then it's really a question about the relationship between the woman and the man involved.

    Little to do what we voted for.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Calling utter bull**** on this post. They were spending thousands on IVF and she just went and had an abortion.

    Get the **** out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    Is this what Ireland voted for?
    So if she had consulted him and then decided to have an abortion, would that be IK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    Well if it is a hypothetical scenario then it's really a question about the relationship between the woman and the man involved.

    Little to do what we voted for.


    Not quite so im afraid


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Calling utter bull**** on this post. They were spending thousands on IVF and she just went and had an abortion.

    Get the **** out of it.


    Before committing to IVF....please read post before commenting


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    So if she had consulted him and then decided to have an abortion, would that be IK?




    Good question!


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    My friend and his partner were trying for a child for several months, he has a low sperm count but they continued trying before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment. Fortunately they were successful.


    My friend was over the moon and ecstatic that he was going to be a dad because he thought they wouldn't make it. In addition to the wonderful news, his partner was offered a hard earned promotion at work in the weeks following.



    I was out with him the other night and I noticed he was unsettled, like something was on his mind but wouldn't really talk about it . After a few drinks he became visibly upset and explained that his partner decided to have an abortion and only told him about it after the event and never consulted him beforehand.


    Her reasoning was that since she was offered the new job, she didn't want to go on maternity leave so soon. She was subject to one years probation and was "scared that her maternity leave and pregnancy would jeopardise her probation".


    He is gutted and I am appalled that she or any woman would have an abortion without at least consulting the father. My friend is devastated but his partner seems completely unapologetic and appears to have the attitude that it's "none of his business" and "It was my decision to make"



    They were living together for 4 years, renting an apartment. He has moved out after a massive row and I have offered him to stay in my house.


    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    Lies.

    What an awful story to make up, just for attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭mcgovern


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    IVF costs about 5 grand does it not

    Most likely quite a bit more than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Calling utter bull**** on this post. They were spending thousands on IVF and she just went and had an abortion.

    Get the **** out of it.

    Yes it was the IVF part that raised the BS flag for me

    Couples don't go through that lightly, it's a very big decision for a whole host of reasons and it's very expensive.

    No one that has been through it would be just decide to have an abortion on a whim for a career move and then not tell their partner.

    **Edit** Read the post again OP, you mentioned she got pregnant before IVF rather than after
    Still BS I reckon though


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    mcgovern wrote: »
    Most likely quite a bit more than that.

    Oh really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭emeldc


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Calling utter bull**** on this post. They were spending thousands on IVF and she just went and had an abortion.

    Get the **** out of it.
    ...

    before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    Good question!
    Would you like to answer? In your opinion...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Awful smell of bull wafting off that post.
    Of course because women have a natural maternal instinct and would never do that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Something similar happened to an acquaintance of mine, though this was a few years ago well before the referendum.

    Though in their case they hadn't been going out that long and the pregnancy was, I presume, unplanned.
    So a situation like the OPs isn't unheard of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Absolute bullsh!t


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Something similar happened to an acquaintance of mine, though this was a few years ago well before the referendum.

    Though in their case they hadn't been going out that long and the pregnancy was, I presume, unplanned.
    So a situation like the OPs isn't unheard of.
    So not at all similar to the scéal in the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    True story.lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    My friend and his partner were trying for a child for several months, he has a low sperm count but they continued trying before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment. Fortunately they were successful.


    My friend was over the moon and ecstatic that he was going to be a dad because he thought they wouldn't make it. In addition to the wonderful news, his partner was offered a hard earned promotion at work in the weeks following.



    I was out with him the other night and I noticed he was unsettled, like something was on his mind but wouldn't really talk about it . After a few drinks he became visibly upset and explained that his partner decided to have an abortion and only told him about it after the event and never consulted him beforehand.


    Her reasoning was that since she was offered the new job, she didn't want to go on maternity leave so soon. She was subject to one years probation and was "scared that her maternity leave and pregnancy would jeopardise her probation".


    He is gutted and I am appalled that she or any woman would have an abortion without at least consulting the father. My friend is devastated but his partner seems completely unapologetic and appears to have the attitude that it's "none of his business" and "It was my decision to make"



    They were living together for 4 years, renting an apartment. He has moved out after a massive row and I have offered him to stay in my house.


    Is this what Ireland voted for?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,427 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I for one am outraged your imaginary friend's imaginary girlfriend aborted her imaginary child.


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    Yes it was the IVF part that raised the BS flag for me

    Couples don't go through that lightly, it's a very big decision for a whole host of reasons and it's very expensive.

    No one that has been through it would be just decide to have an abortion on a whim for a career move and then not tell their partner.

    **Edit** Read the post again OP, you mentioned she got pregnant before IVF rather than after
    Still BS I reckon though

    BEFORE committing to IVF. Please read correctly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    So not at all similar to the scéal in the OP.

    Well they weren't trying for a baby, but the fella was all excited to be a father and was telling everyone that his partner was expecting -this was quite early in the pregnancy tbf. Next time we heard from him he said that she had gone to England without telling him. He was quite cut up about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Wow OP's post history is a wild ride.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe is a bs story as people say but it does raise the question about why a man cant request an abortion and if refused be legally allowed opt out. It's unfair that a man has no choice if the baby is aborted or not and if the women keeps it against the mans will then why is he liable for financial assistance for 23 years


  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    Well they weren't trying for a baby, but the fella was all excited to be a father and was telling everyone that his partner was expecting -this was quite early in the pregnancy tbf. Next time we heard from him he said that she had gone to England without telling him. He was quite cut up about it.


    How did that situation turn out?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    How did that situation turn out?

    They went their separate ways afterwards as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    My friend and his partner were trying for a child for several months, he has a low sperm count but they continued trying before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment. Fortunately they were successful.


    My friend was over the moon and ecstatic that he was going to be a dad because he thought they wouldn't make it. In addition to the wonderful news, his partner was offered a hard earned promotion at work in the weeks following.



    I was out with him the other night and I noticed he was unsettled, like something was on his mind but wouldn't really talk about it . After a few drinks he became visibly upset and explained that his partner decided to have an abortion and only told him about it after the event and never consulted him beforehand.


    Her reasoning was that since she was offered the new job, she didn't want to go on maternity leave so soon. She was subject to one years probation and was "scared that her maternity leave and pregnancy would jeopardise her probation".


    He is gutted and I am appalled that she or any woman would have an abortion without at least consulting the father. My friend is devastated but his partner seems completely unapologetic and appears to have the attitude that it's "none of his business" and "It was my decision to make"



    They were living together for 4 years, renting an apartment. He has moved out after a massive row and I have offered him to stay in my house.


    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Well they weren't trying for a baby, but the fella was all excited to be a father and was telling everyone that his partner was expecting -this was quite early in the pregnancy tbf. Next time we heard from him he said that she had gone to England without telling him. He was quite cut up about it.

    Your absolute dope of a friend dodged a bullet.. going around telling people he'd knocked up his new girlfriend.. spanner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    They weren't their separate ways afterwards as far as I know.

    lol

    Touchdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Maybe is a bs story as people say but it does raise the question about why a man cant request an abortion and if refused be legally allowed opt out. It's unfair that a man has no choice if the baby is aborted or not and if the women keeps it against the mans will then why is he liable for financial assistance for 23 years
    If only there was a simple, easy way for lads who are concerned about this terrible oppression to make sure it doesn't happen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭anndub


    Women are evil, selfish, cruel monsters who should never be trusted.

    That's the gist of this work of fiction, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    BEFORE committing to IVF. Please read correctly

    Speak for yourself, you even quoted my post after I had put the **EDIT** in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Need to try harder OP. Not convincing at all

    If it is not BS, what she did was quite cruel and she should have of course consulted her husband. But its just one person, it doesnt mean that all women will do this or would ever want to and it doesnt mean that giving women the right to abortion in the referendum is a bad thing. Which is clearly the reaction youre trying to provoke, with the last line.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Lol. OP no one talks or interacts like that in real life. You just outed yourself as a social outcast who makes poorly written stories on boards.ie

    IMO Get psychiatric help. You’re in the same league with that lad who got three years for trolling. I hope you get the same so you’ll stop this pathological behavior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    JizzBeans wrote: »


    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    This may come as a shock to you but Irish women were having abortions before the vote. The referendum result is largely irrelevant to this situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Need to try harder OP. Not convincing at all

    If it is not BS, what she did was quite cruel and she should have of course consulted her husband. But its just one person, it doesnt mean that all women will do this or would ever want to and it doesnt mean that giving women the right to abortion in the referendum is a bad thing. Which is clearly the reaction youre trying to provoke, with the last line.
    Point of order, we didn't actually give women that right with the referendum. We actually voted to allow abortion to be legislated for. Technically, there would be nothing illegal or unconstitutional (under the terms of the amendment) if the government turned around tomorrow and banned it again.

    There are other arguments though that without the 8th amendment, the constitutional right to bodily integrity would prevent it being made illegal again, but that's never been tested afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Plenty of couples having IVF treatment lose the baby, so congrats on your little troll there to add a bit of soap opera and make some sort of point best left to the shower next time, eh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Screw Attack


    JizzBeans wrote: »
    My friend and his partner were trying for a child for several months, he has a low sperm count but they continued trying before committing to expensive and time consuming IVF treatment. Fortunately they were successful.


    My friend was over the moon and ecstatic that he was going to be a dad because he thought they wouldn't make it. In addition to the wonderful news, his partner was offered a hard earned promotion at work in the weeks following.



    I was out with him the other night and I noticed he was unsettled, like something was on his mind but wouldn't really talk about it . After a few drinks he became visibly upset and explained that his partner decided to have an abortion and only told him about it after the event and never consulted him beforehand.


    Her reasoning was that since she was offered the new job, she didn't want to go on maternity leave so soon. She was subject to one years probation and was "scared that her maternity leave and pregnancy would jeopardise her probation".


    He is gutted and I am appalled that she or any woman would have an abortion without at least consulting the father. My friend is devastated but his partner seems completely unapologetic and appears to have the attitude that it's "none of his business" and "It was my decision to make"



    They were living together for 4 years, renting an apartment. He has moved out after a massive row and I have offered him to stay in my house.


    Is this what Ireland voted for?

    Given the fact that your username is JizzBeans (ha!) I know that this story is 100% factual and I would be an idiot not to think otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    Can't help but think the guy can't know with certainty it was his ...
    Guess this IS a valid way to break up: different outlooks for the two.

    - so better now than after having children


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    Maybe is a bs story as people say but it does raise the question about why a man cant request an abortion and if refused be legally allowed opt out. It's unfair that a man has no choice if the baby is aborted or not and if the women keeps it against the mans will then why is he liable for financial assistance for 23 years

    If men don’t want to have then they should just abstain from having sex. Its pretty simple.


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