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Garda Recruitment Stage 4 (2019 Campaign)
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St.Brigids wrote: »I got a beep when I was doing it on each stroke and still failed.
Right so - just goes to show what I know
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St.Brigids wrote: »I got a beep when I was doing it on each stroke and still failed.
The beeps are to signal that you've reached the end of a stroke - pull back when you hear the beep, push forward when you hear the beep.
Just because you do that correctly though, it doesn't mean you've generated the required force needed. I met each beep the first campaign I was in - but I still fell below the 25kg.
During this campaign I focused on speed during the obstacle course (sprinting as much as I could, jumping far off the gate etc) and got it done is two minutes and three seconds, which means I only had to generate 22.5kg (I think) on the push/pull.
The first time I did the push/pull, I focused too much on 'oh, I better do as many strokes as I can!', and I think I was mentally still in beep test mode for it. This time I paid far more attention to the force I put behind it - no joke, I was hanging out of it. I'm 5 foot (almost) 3, so the handles were halfway between my chest and chin - nearly came a cropper and belted myself in the chin once or twice on the backwards pull, but I gave it absolute welly and used my legs more than my upper body and passed it back in November 0 -
ClaireMcGrath wrote: »The beeps are to signal that you've reached the end of a stroke - pull back when you hear the beep, push forward when you hear the beep.
Just because you do that correctly though, it doesn't mean you've generated the required force needed. I met each beep the first campaign I was in - but I still fell below the 25kg.
During this campaign I focused on speed during the obstacle course (sprinting as much as I could, jumping far off the gate etc) and got it done is two minutes and three seconds, which means I only had to generate 22.5kg (I think) on the push/pull.
The first time I did the push/pull, I focused too much on 'oh, I better do as many strokes as I can!', and I think I was mentally still in beep test mode for it. This time I paid far more attention to the force I put behind it - no joke, I was hanging out of it. I'm 5 foot (almost) 3, so the handles were halfway between my chest and chin - nearly came a cropper and belted myself in the chin once or twice on the backwards pull, but I gave it absolute welly and used my legs more than my upper body and passed it back in November
This is great to know. So don’t need to worry about speed as such just push with as much force as possible.0 -
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ClaireMcGrath wrote: »The beeps are to signal that you've reached the end of a stroke - pull back when you hear the beep, push forward when you hear the beep.
Just because you do that correctly though, it doesn't mean you've generated the required force needed. I met each beep the first campaign I was in - but I still fell below the 25kg.
During this campaign I focused on speed during the obstacle course (sprinting as much as I could, jumping far off the gate etc) and got it done is two minutes and three seconds, which means I only had to generate 22.5kg (I think) on the push/pull.
The first time I did the push/pull, I focused too much on 'oh, I better do as many strokes as I can!', and I think I was mentally still in beep test mode for it. This time I paid far more attention to the force I put behind it - no joke, I was hanging out of it. I'm 5 foot (almost) 3, so the handles were halfway between my chest and chin - nearly came a cropper and belted myself in the chin once or twice on the backwards pull, but I gave it absolute welly and used my legs more than my upper body and passed it back in November
How do you mean in this campaign? What happened that you got as far as the fitness and then needed to apply again for another campaign.0 -
ClaireMcGrath wrote: »The beeps are to signal that you've reached the end of a stroke - pull back when you hear the beep, push forward when you hear the beep.
Just because you do that correctly though, it doesn't mean you've generated the required force needed. I met each beep the first campaign I was in - but I still fell below the 25kg.
During this campaign I focused on speed during the obstacle course (sprinting as much as I could, jumping far off the gate etc) and got it done is two minutes and three seconds, which means I only had to generate 22.5kg (I think) on the push/pull.
The first time I did the push/pull, I focused too much on 'oh, I better do as many strokes as I can!', and I think I was mentally still in beep test mode for it. This time I paid far more attention to the force I put behind it - no joke, I was hanging out of it. I'm 5 foot (almost) 3, so the handles were halfway between my chest and chin - nearly came a cropper and belted myself in the chin once or twice on the backwards pull, but I gave it absolute welly and used my legs more than my upper body and passed it back in November
This is good to know. I have to re do stage 2 push/pull again so does that mean at the retest Ill have to wait till very end also?0 -
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Frenchjoe87 wrote: »How do you mean in this campaign? What happened that you got as far as the fitness and then needed to apply again for another campaign.
It's a bit of a long story - basically I first applied in the 2018 campaign. Passed everything including the medical (back then they sent you to the CMO before you did the PCT). Had my meeting with the Super and everything. I failed the beep test and the push/pull on my first PCT.
Disheartening, yes, but okay - let's go hell for leather for the retest right? Got myself signed up to a gym in town, did three personal training classes a week that focused on strength and conditioning, did two spinning classes a week for cardio, and did jogging/running in my own time.
But then 12 weeks went by. And then another 12 ... and more weeks, no word from HRM about the retest. So I emailed them in March 2019 asking about what was going on with my application.
I got an email to say that I had my PCT retest was now scheduled for March 1st and that I 'must attend' or my application would be more or less terminated. This was less than two weeks notice. I'd gotten lazy over Christmas season because I'd slipped on a wet floor in the factory where I work and ended up out on certs for three/four weeks, so I'd done very little exercising over the Christmas/January period.
I went to the PCT retest and passed everything except the beep test - I needed 6.6 and got 6.1 (so close, yet so far...). One of the instructor's there pulled me aside and advised me to appeal seems I'd clearly brought it to their attention that I'd been injured and hadn't been asked to attend or supply another medical/clearance form.
Basically you have grounds to appeal if you feel you've been unfairly treated. I wrote and email and sent a letter detailing why I thought I should be granted an appeal, listing my main reasons being that they had clearly forgotten/lost my application seems there was such a gap between my PCT and my retest. It had been more than 12 months since I had undergone a medical. The language used in the email put me under duress and made me feel that I had no other option but to attend the retest, irrelevant of my recent injury etc, etc. etc.
I got an email back saying that they were currently 'reviewing the appeal process' and that that moment in time, I didn't 'meet the criteria required' for an appeal to be granted .... so, I dunno what does meet the criteria to be honest
I was lucky that a new campaign opened up then, so I started from scratch all over again. 0 -
This is good to know. I have to re do stage 2 push/pull again so does that mean at the retest Ill have to wait till very end also?
Afraid so my friend ... my twin sister was in the same boat. And no, unfortunately you can't arrive later just for that bit. You have to show up with everyone else to attend the induction/lecture bit where you're split into your different groups, then I suggest you head for the coffee dock/glass building.
Bring a tablet/laptop/book with you, it'll be a long day of mostly sitting around for you until it's time to do the obstacle course and push/pull
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ClaireMcGrath wrote: »It's a bit of a long story - basically I first applied in the 2018 campaign. Passed everything including the medical (back then they sent you to the CMO before you did the PCT). Had my meeting with the Super and everything. I failed the beep test and the push/pull on my first PCT.
Disheartening, yes, but okay - let's go hell for leather for the retest right? Got myself signed up to a gym in town, did three personal training classes a week that focused on strength and conditioning, did two spinning classes a week for cardio, and did jogging/running in my own time.
But then 12 weeks went by. And then another 12 ... and more weeks, no word from HRM about the retest. So I emailed them in March 2019 asking about what was going on with my application.
I got an email to say that I had my PCT retest was now scheduled for March 1st and that I 'must attend' or my application would be more or less terminated. This was less than two weeks notice. I'd gotten lazy over Christmas season because I'd slipped on a wet floor in the factory where I work and ended up out on certs for three/four weeks, so I'd done very little exercising over the Christmas/January period.
I went to the PCT retest and passed everything except the beep test - I needed 6.6 and got 6.1 (so close, yet so far...). One of the instructor's there pulled me aside and advised me to appeal seems I'd clearly brought it to their attention that I'd been injured and hadn't been asked to attend or supply another medical/clearance form.
Basically you have grounds to appeal if you feel you've been unfairly treated. I wrote and email and sent a letter detailing why I thought I should be granted an appeal, listing my main reasons being that they had clearly forgotten/lost my application seems there was such a gap between my PCT and my retest. It had been more than 12 months since I had undergone a medical. The language used in the email put me under duress and made me feel that I had no other option but to attend the retest, irrelevant of my recent injury etc, etc. etc.
I got an email back saying that they were currently 'reviewing the appeal process' and that that moment in time, I didn't 'meet the criteria required' for an appeal to be granted .... so, I dunno what does meet the criteria to be honest
I was lucky that a new campaign opened up then, so I started from scratch all over again.
That sounds like such tough luck. It's very unfair that you weren't called as normal for your retest.
Its shows great determination on your part to re apply and try again from the start.0 -
ClaireMcGrath wrote: »It's a bit of a long story - basically I first applied in the 2018 campaign. Passed everything including the medical (back then they sent you to the CMO before you did the PCT). Had my meeting with the Super and everything. I failed the beep test and the push/pull on my first PCT.
Disheartening, yes, but okay - let's go hell for leather for the retest right? Got myself signed up to a gym in town, did three personal training classes a week that focused on strength and conditioning, did two spinning classes a week for cardio, and did jogging/running in my own time.
But then 12 weeks went by. And then another 12 ... and more weeks, no word from HRM about the retest. So I emailed them in March 2019 asking about what was going on with my application.
I got an email to say that I had my PCT retest was now scheduled for March 1st and that I 'must attend' or my application would be more or less terminated. This was less than two weeks notice. I'd gotten lazy over Christmas season because I'd slipped on a wet floor in the factory where I work and ended up out on certs for three/four weeks, so I'd done very little exercising over the Christmas/January period.
I went to the PCT retest and passed everything except the beep test - I needed 6.6 and got 6.1 (so close, yet so far...). One of the instructor's there pulled me aside and advised me to appeal seems I'd clearly brought it to their attention that I'd been injured and hadn't been asked to attend or supply another medical/clearance form.
Basically you have grounds to appeal if you feel you've been unfairly treated. I wrote and email and sent a letter detailing why I thought I should be granted an appeal, listing my main reasons being that they had clearly forgotten/lost my application seems there was such a gap between my PCT and my retest. It had been more than 12 months since I had undergone a medical. The language used in the email put me under duress and made me feel that I had no other option but to attend the retest, irrelevant of my recent injury etc, etc. etc.
I got an email back saying that they were currently 'reviewing the appeal process' and that that moment in time, I didn't 'meet the criteria required' for an appeal to be granted .... so, I dunno what does meet the criteria to be honest
I was lucky that a new campaign opened up then, so I started from scratch all over again.
That sounds like such tough luck. It's very unfair that you weren't called as normal for your retest.
Its shows great determination on your part to re apply and try again from the start.0 -
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ClaireMcGrath wrote: »Afraid so my friend ... my twin sister was in the same boat. And no, unfortunately you can't arrive later just for that bit. You have to show up with everyone else to attend the induction/lecture bit where you're split into your different groups, then I suggest you head for the coffee dock/glass building.
Bring a tablet/laptop/book with you, it'll be a long day of mostly sitting around for you until it's time to do the obstacle course and push/pull
Cheers , thanks for that. If you have any suggestions how to train for push/pull. My strength wasn’t strong enough but the beeps were grand. Any particular machine in the gym t b using that would b great. need to work on my upper body strength anyways.0 -
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