How do the rules of the road deal with this?

54and56

So it's on a public road, it's not a zebra crossing but it does have solid lines running perpendicular to the road running along the top of the speed bumps and a marked out tactile standing area for pedestrians either side of the road.

How does this need to be treated from a drivers perspective? Do drivers have to stop to give way to pedestrians waiting to cross? If so why not just make it a zebra crossing?

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xabi

Pedestrians give way

ED E

The thin white lines are pedestrian crossing lines, not a stop line. The triangles/pyramids are to make the traffic cushion visible.

Its incomplete, there should be a traffic signal for the pedestrian crossing.

caldew

This is a courtesy crossing. Vehicles can stop to let pedestrians cross but don't have to.

I always stop to let pedestrians cross if it's safe for me to stop. As a pedestrian I don't like them as you're never sure if the car will stop.

SCOOP 64

If i see a pedestrian waiting to cross im stopping, isn't that the common sense thing to do?

Thoie

54and56 wrote: »

Do drivers have to stop to give way to pedestrians waiting to cross? If so why not just make it a zebra crossing?

Pedestrians do not have priority. It's not a zebra crossing. At some stage they'll probably add pedestrian lights. Eventually.

Marcusm

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

If i see a pedestrian waiting to cross im stopping, isn't that the common sense thing to do?

You would be committing the offence of causing a traffic obstruction if you did so.

SCOOP 64

Marcusm wrote: »

You would be committing the offence of causing a traffic obstruction if you did so.

ill take the risk.

54and56

Marcusm wrote: »

You would be committing the offence of causing a traffic obstruction if you did so.

I assume the relevant council / road authority put them in to make it easier for pedestrians to cross during traffic (otherwise why put them in?) so I tend to stop and let pedestrians cross especially if the traffic ahead of me isn't moving too fast.

If it's an offence for traffic to stop at these why are they put in???

Decoda

The use of yellow / buff coloured tac tiles instead of red means that it's an uncontrolled crossing point, i.e the pedestrian does not have right of way. This layout is not in accordance with any design or specification and obvioulsy could lead to confusion. In my opinion the tram lines should be removed.

54and56

Decoda wrote: »

The use of yellow tac tiles instead of red means that it's an uncontrolled crossing point, i.e the pedestrian does not have right of way. This layout is not in accordance with any design or specification and obvioulsy could lead to confusion. In my opinion the tram lines should be removed.

I agree. It's the tramlines which motivated me to make this post as solid lines across the road in front of me automatically make me think I have to stop.

Isambard

it might be dangerous to give way to a pedestrian if there's a risk they might walk straight under another car

Brock Turnpike

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

ill take the risk.

You really shouldn't. Someone drove into the back of me on Monday morning, because the driver at the front of the line of traffic decided to stop at the far side of the junction to let a pedestrian cross, when they had no right to.

SCOOP 64

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

You really shouldn't. Someone drove into the back of me on Monday morning, because the driver at the front of the line of traffic decided to stop at the far side of the junction to let a pedestrian cross, when they had no right to.

So it wasn't the driver who drove in to back of you fault for lack of observation but the driver who gave way to a pedestrian?

BorneTobyWilde

Just another example of the make it up as you go along rules that each County Council seems to push out. They do it their way.
Those actual pedestrian crosses with the big flashing yellow light are another hindrance to drivers. You approach these on a dark rainy night and it's like someone is holding a flash light in front of your eyes and turning it on and off every second as you try to see if there is someone at the crossing or not, but you can't see as they are standing behind the flashing light! WTF

Have approached these countless times and would be totally sure no one is standing at them and low and below as you drive by there can be !! Accident waiting to happen, would make more sense to put a constant white light looking down on the area a person stands as to illuminate them, not put a big flashing blinding light in front of them as to hide them and blind the drivers of vehicles. Geez !

Conall Cernach

Half of Monaghan Town is like this and pedestrians regularly use them as Zebra crossings. It is at the stage now where people walk out in front of traffic without looking or protest if someone does not stop. Local drivers now will usually give way to pedestrians because they know they are going to just walk out.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde

Yep that light makes it easy to see people, WTF

They use such techniques in the arms forces to hide a person, but they use them as crossings in Ireland, wtf

LorelaiG

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Yep that light makes it easy to see people, WTF

They use such techniques in the arms forces to hide a person, but they use them as crossings in Ireland, wtf

Think you might want to get your eyes checked by a doctor if those flashing amber beacons cause you problems...

Brock Turnpike

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

So it wasn't the driver who drove in to back of you fault for lack of observation but the driver who gave way to a pedestrian?

The driver who drove into the back of me should have been paying attention. But the accident would never have happened if the driver at the front of traffic hadn't stopped (in a yellow box) to let a pedestrian,with no right of way, to cross the road. People need to understand that you can't just stop at random points on the road to let pedestrians cross. You're putting the cars behind you in danger, and waving a pedestrian across the road and potentially into danger.

markest

54and56 wrote:

So it's on a public road, it's not a zebra crossing but it does have solid lines running perpendicular to the road running along the top of the speed bumps and a marked out tactile standing area for pedestrians either side of the road.

Isn't this raised area also used to assist cyclists on cycle lanes?