What rodent is this?

s7ryf3925pivug

About 4" long. Currently in my external garage.

3cm gap under the door and dog food outside of sealed containers so not madly surprising. Thing to seal gap is in the post. Guess I'll look for large sealed containers for dog food too.

akelly02

rat

SchrodingersCat

Looks like a rat. If you put it on your head under a chefs hat you can cook some great French cuisine.

2pacshakur

I'm missing a hamster

s7ryf3925pivug

too small no? I measured the spot in the photo. body is 3" long.

Igotadose

rat. They come in a range of sizes

SlowBlowin

Difficult, either small rat or a large vole, with the tiny tucked back ears.

s7ryf3925pivug

bollocks.

What is the best way of getting rid of it?

Is it worth trying to eliminate them outside as well as inside?

I have a toddler and a dog. Can keep both out of the garage but not garden obviously. Garden also gets foxes I don't want to harm and feral cats which I don't want to have to dispose of.

Anything else to deter further entry, after sealing gaps and food?

s7ryf3925pivug

He was not particularly alarmed by my presence until I started moving toward him, if that's any indicator. Seemed curious. Came out to look at me a little later. Less than 3m away.

Tail looks kinfa fluffy at the end,
Could be a Dormouse??

cool little guys.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Otto Brave Gesture wrote: »

bollocks.

What is the best way of getting rid of it?

Is it worth trying to eliminate them outside as well as inside?

I have a toddler and a dog. Can keep both out of Grange but not garden obviously. Garden also gets foxes I don't want to harm and feral cats which I don't want to have to dispose of.

Anything else to deter further entry, after sealing gaps and food?

Fire, that'll do it every time:D

Rat poison and bait stations. If you know where it's coming in, a bait station there will get them in and eating the poison once any other food source is taken away.

And then seal up any entrances with plaster and put bait stations either side of the door and place them down the start of November every year.

listermint

BrownFinger wrote: »

Tail looks kinfa fluffy at the end,
Could be a Dormouse??

cool little guys.

Looks more like a dormouse I don't see any rat features

s7ryf3925pivug

If he's not a health hazard I've no desire to kill him but I still don't want him pooping in my garage.

listermint

I think rats have longer legs and darker tails

Welding Rod

Get a Jack Russel.

akelly02

theres always rats nidgey

Welding Rod

Then again maybe you should hang on to him. Probably qualify as at least 6 livestock units for SFP purposes, once Larry and the Greens have cattle banished..

Pete M.

Looks like a mouse tbh. It's that time of year when they start migrating indoors because of the cold.
Seal up everything and leave a couple of mouse traps in corners or along the routes they might be taking along walls etc.
And they've been living alongside us for a long long time, so unless it gets way out of hand, they'll do very little harm.

gozunda

Otto Brave Gesture wrote: »

If he's not a health hazard I've no desire to kill him but I still don't want him pooping in my garage.

If you're not sure what it is - get a live trap. Try your local coop. If it's a rat - they are a serious health hazard and most likely will have more than one. Meed to take appropriate action with bait stations etc.

Btw any idea how it's getting in?

Andreas77

I had a King Jird for several years, an angry, nasty little creature with long nails, that scratched all the surfaces in our apartment, the linoleum, the grouting, the tiles in the bedroom and the tiles in the bathroom, any carpeted areas, lucky I was student at the time so didn't have to pay for the King Jird's damage, anyway I finally let him loose on campus, I wonder where he is now

s7ryf3925pivug

gozunda wrote: »

If you're not sure what it is - get a live trap. Try your local coop. If it's a rat - they are a serious health hazard and most likely will have more than one. Meed to take appropriate action with bait stations etc.

Btw any idea how it's getting in?

Fairly certain it was through the gap at the bottom of my garage door. It's 3cm. A seal for it is in the post. Other possibility is a smaller gap at bottom of normal timber door. Plan to replace that soon and will stick something onto it in the meantime. Or he might have just gone in while the door was open. Otherwise all walls exposed externally and ate intact concrete.

canonball5

It's 100% a mouse.

emeldc

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Fire, that'll do it every time:D

Rat poison and bait stations. If you know where it's coming in, a bait station there will get them in and eating the poison once any other food source is taken away.

And then seal up any entrances with plaster and put bait stations either side of the door and place them down the start of November every year.

I'm not a fan of poison. If the rodent dies outside you might end up killing the hawk or owl that picks it up.

s7ryf3925pivug

Ok my plan is to seal the gaps and get a humane trap. Will release it him and any of his colleagues into my garden... I've read that releasing them far away is actually usually consigning them to probable death, since they aren't good at adapting away from the places they know. Though he'll probably fall prey to a fox, dog or cat soon enough anyway. Must leave some piles of wood cuttings to give him a chance.

Tails142

Just a mouse

emeldc

Otto Brave Gesture wrote: »

Ok my plan is to seal the gaps and get a humane trap. Will release it him and any of his colleagues into my garden... I've read that releasing them far away is actually usually consigning them to probable death, since they aren't good at adapting away from the places they know. Though he'll probably fall prey to a fox, dog or cat soon enough anyway. Must leave some piles of wood cuttings to give him a chance.

You'll change your mind about humane traps when you get the smell off it after he's been pi$$ing in it all night :pac:

mattser

canonball5 wrote: »

It's 100% a mouse.

Agreed. I don't think a rat would hang around peeping at you. Mickey and Minnie are brazen little feckers though.

Boxcar_Willie

Field Mouse

Mooooo

Could be an immature rat,. Caught 6 in the space of 30 mins here two years ago, called in the professionals then as the adults were too smart for the traps, outside is one thing but inside quiet another. Cat caught it after I reckon

Doctors room ghost

You want to shift the bag of dog nuts.thats what’s drawing them.
Put it in a rodent proof bin.
Rumour has it if you steal your neighbors wheelie bin and wash it out it will be perfect for the job

Buford T. Justice XIX

emeldc wrote: »

I'm not a fan of poison. If the rodent dies outside you might end up killing the hawk or owl that picks it up.

Fire it is so!

Hang on till I get some marshmallows, though:P

BarryD2

Looks like it has a thickish tail so could be a young rat. Rats are brazen too, when they consider it their territory. Shrewd creatures and can squeeze through the smallest gaps, amazing climbers. You're never too far from rats but generally you don't want to be sharing buildings with them.

bfa1509

Looks like some kind of sideways species of rat. I've never seen a species of this orientation before.

s7ryf3925pivug

I've seen a couple of similar rodents around outside which I took to be fieldmice. This one looks a little bigger maybe. Also found a dead tiny one also outside that I took to be a shrew. Had a kinda curved narrow snout.

Here is another pic where he came out to have another look at me. Bit blurred.

volchitsa

Any rats I've ever seen have been massive. Way bigger than that.

I don't know how fast they grow, but I wouldn't say there's much chance of seeing a rat on its own that isn't already adult sized.

I think that's something else, and if you say you've seen other small rodents around I think it's more likely one of those (probably too big to be a fieldmouse though)

volchitsa

Otto Brave Gesture wrote: »

I've seen a couple of similar rodents around outside which I took to be fieldmice. This one looks a little bigger maybe. Also found a dead tiny one also outside that I took to be a shrew. Had a kinda curved narrow snout.

Here is another pic where he came out to have another look at me. Bit blurred.

Lol, looks like a raccoon or a fox in that one!!!
(Which it obviously isn't, of course! Just the photo, or maybe it's just me.)

Doctors room ghost

Be god lad and that bag of dog nuts is north of 60 pound.
I’d be keeping it well away from a mouseen at that money.
The fcuker will be gorging on them and will sh1te on what’s left.
They do draw what they don’t eat into the nest.
Hel rob you

The Rabbi

Half drown it then hit it with a sledge.And don't start fretting about it.Second time is easier.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's an adult Wood Mouse (also called a long tailed field mouse).

A standard mousetrap will do the job.

s7ryf3925pivug

The Rabbi wrote: »

Half drown it then hit it with a sledge.And don't start fretting about it.Second time is easier.

Recognition! /zoidberg

Birdnuts

Oakley Microscopic Theatre wrote: »

It's an adult Wood Mouse (also called a long tailed field mouse).

A standard mousetrap will do the job.

That would be my call - as rodents go their pretty harmless

corks finest

Oakley Microscopic Theatre wrote:

It's an adult Wood Mouse (also called a long tailed field mouse).

GPMG needed ,with tracer

Blaizes

Get a cat and a plug in ultrasonic rodent repeller have only ever had mice so don’t know but looks too small to be a rat unless it’s a baby hopefully not!

Greyfoot

corks finest wrote: »

GPMG needed ,with tracer

Ahahaha,and call in the coordinates for a mortar strike once you run out of belts

bogman_bass

corks finest wrote: »

GPMG needed ,with tracer

Think of the collateral damage! Use your head lad!
9mm only!

twin_beacon

looks more like a mouse to me, rat's tails are longer

Chisler2

Otto Brave Gesture wrote: »

If he's not a health hazard I've no desire to kill him but I still don't want him pooping in my garage.

Dog-food, bird-seed etc. stored in rodent-proof containers take away all incentive for rodents to come near sheds or garages. Full-sized plastic bins with lock-over handles (lid cannot be pushed off/wiggled under) are perfect.......followed by sealing their entrance-points when you are sure they are not inside.

Andreas77

So what is this creature? Mouse or rat,. Can you provide more pics please so we can see better

cj maxx

Andreas77 wrote: »

So what is this creature? Mouse or rat,. Can you provide more pics please so we can see better

The tail looks too short for a rat. It doesn't look like a house mouse. I don't know

Birdnuts

cjmc wrote: »

The tail looks too short for a rat. It doesn't look like a house mouse. I don't know

Its a Wood mouse - generally they don't invade human dwellings unless the weather is very poor, which might explain its presence in this case

cj maxx

Birdnuts wrote: »

Its a Wood mouse - generally they don't invade human dwellings unless the weather is very poor, which might explain its presence in this case

Is a wood mouse different to a field mouse ? Where do they live