VW e-Up!

ELM327

Any word on price?

Buddy Bubs

I know it shouldnt make a difference but I wonder about the legalities of using a phone while driving as opposed to a fixed screen, I know having it on dash will somewhat keep your eyes on the road and as far as I know the law prohibits handheld devices.

This is coming from someone that has a car where nearly every function is in the screen and I know how distracting going through menus can be and taking your eyes off the road to find the correct spot to touch as opposed to finding a physical button or dial by feel.

I do see people with mobile phones mounted almost in the middle of their windscreens with suction cups using google maps at times. Always found that bizzare sitting behind them and you see how obstructed their views must be.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916471#Comment_119916471

From this mornings conversation with VW dealer.

Then 29 to 30 k on the road after the grant and with metallic...

I hope that gets nailed down more solidly before the end of January when I'm told cars will be in....

mailforkev

These used to be great but things have moved on a lot since they originally came out.

For almost 30k, why would you buy one ahead of a 500e or e208 (or MG4), which are much more substantial products.

Needs to be 5k cheaper.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916591#Comment_119916591

makes my ID4 city an ever bigger bargain

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916591#Comment_119916591

That's far to expensive for what it is. 22-24K and it'd fly out.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916657#Comment_119916657

Because they are VW. Some people, myself included, place a premium on german cars and would prefer to be in that than a fiat 500 or a chinese SAIC mg4.

JohnC.

The days of German cars being premium because they're German are long gone and it's odd that there are people that still hold to that.

fafy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916468#Comment_119916468

This 2nd version, of the e Up, has been onsale in UK, for nearly 3 years, plenty of reviews online like this one:

https://www.carwow.co.uk/volkswagen/e-up/interior#nav

liamog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916657#Comment_119916657

They're a Tardis car, for the footprint the Up! has a surprising amount of cabin room. It's very well packaged and put together. I'd say it's one of the best packaged city cars available

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119916717#Comment_119916717

A used run out model Exec spec eGolf would be much more appealing. Same tech, more space, better built but you’ll miss out on the new car smell. Unless you really need a tiny car for easier parking or have number plate disease, I see little appeal in an eUp.

Miscreant

Almost €30k? Ah come on now, the country has gone mad altogether if people are going to pay that for a city car, badge or no badge!

The whole point of a car like this is cheap motoring. Fuelling it might be cheap but at that potential price, there is no pay back on this at all.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119918096#Comment_119918096

6k more than a polo….

TitianGerm

Pricing up on the site now with an OTRP of €27,813. To expensive for me as a second car even though I'd love one.

embraer170

€28k for an e-Up is absolutely shocking money, even with the Irish premium.

The one I ordered in Germany in September 2020 (delivered March 2021) cost €12k (!) after the grant. They increased in price twice after and the last time you ordered them, I think the OTRP price came to around €23k.

adunis

I'm buying one,very simple VW gave me 16.5k for my 19 plate Zoe vs 9.5k from mg and 13 K from renault.

As I'm forever saying ignore the sticker price COST TO CHANGE is all that matters

SlowBlowin

I collected mine 10 days ago. I love the car perfect for the narrow lanes here, ideal for trips to the village and the weekly shop.

When I collected it the phone holder was installed upside down, seems a common issue, easy fix there is a you tube video explaining how to do it..

I must say the app is terrible, flaky and really badly designed, mine worked for a few days now its toast.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120838076#Comment_120838076

Try using the “WeConnect ID” app instead of the “We Connect” app if that’s what you’re using. It’s obviously set up for the ID range but it works well on the e-Golf. Faster and less buggy but still a little flaky at times. Can’t see why it wouldn’t work with an e-Up! if it works with the e-Golf.

adunis

Belated update ,up has landed,it's a lovely wee thing incredible ride quality for a small car and nothing but likeable with absolutely zero pretensions.

We connect will not work as there is an issue with all the Irish market E-sims,however the maps and more app works a treat and is perfectly adequate albeit a little clunky

adunis

Further update,if one annoys vw enough you can get them to reset cars e-sim we connect app will work then.

MojoMaker

Has the OTR price of the E-Up really gone up to 29K now?

Where was/is it on sale for 20K? Outside Ireland I'm guessing, but was there not a bit of fuss earlier in 2023 about the 20K EV finally making it to these shores?

liamog

Dealers listing 241 models on carzone for a lot less €20,999

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volkswagen/e-up/fpa/3571486?journey=Search

Matthewjohn

Very tempting at €17,500 for a prereg 232

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volkswagen/e-up/fpa/202308261219062?journey=Search

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volkswagen/e-up/fpa/202307069366386?journey=Search

embraer170

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120943528#Comment_120943528

It was the same in Germany. I think it was a case of them having to activate the e-sim properly.

embraer170

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121588995#Comment_121588995

It really is an absolutely brilliant little car (my other EV is a Model 3). Marketed properly and at the right price, they would sell in huge numbers in Ireland and elsewhere. Unfortunately, production has ended or will end soon.

MojoMaker

That's mad - what is up with VW Ireland???

e-up! | Models | Volkswagen

liamog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121590914#Comment_121590914

VW have been reducing prices via dealer discounts instead of reducing the rrp, it's happended to a good few of their cars.

podge3

These last-of-the-line pre-reg e-up!s represent seriously good value for money: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars?sort=priceasc&year_from=2024&make=Volkswagen%3Bmodel%3Ae-up%21

There are about 20 of them around the country in VW dealerships starting from €18k. Only one spec available so should all be the same price, really. Nothing comes near it for price/range/spec. WLTP range of 250 KMs, with some drivers claiming over 300 KMs in city driving.

I paid a deposit on one today as a run-around for the Mrs. First time driving one and I have to say all the Youtube reviews were correct when they said it was fun to drive.

These cars were almost €30k a few months ago, wasn't worth it at that but @ €18k, it represents great value IMHO.

podge3

Just a bit of a follow up to my last post, I collected the new e-Up today. It really is a brilliant little car. I drove about 80KMs in it and averaged 12 kWh per 100KMs. About half of this was motorway driving, although I didn't really go over 100KM/h, except for brief spells. I can see how some drivers can get over 300KMs driving in an urban setting during the summer.

Build quality is great. Some of the interior plastics are a bit cheap but I've sat in several (early) ID3s and its better than those. Sound system is surprisingly good. I suppose the biggest surprise is how quiet it is, probably quieter than my e-Niro.

The car design is over 10 years old now but it doesn't look dated IMHO. The interior instrument cluster is analogue and the car is generally lacking in features that more modern vehicles have now but there is more than enough mod-cons to keep most drivers happy.

Two annoyances so far - very little cabin storage/cubbys and I can't get the SIM to activate for remote access, as other posters on this page have remarked. I emailed VW and already feel I am being given the run-around but I'm sure it'll be sorted in due course.

Really is a shame production of this car is ceased. As I said previously, it was never worth €29k+ but should have sold very well at €18k.

embraer170

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121826128#Comment_121826128

Congrats, definitely a lovely little car.

Oscar_Madison

I considered it but was just too small for my needs as a second car but yeah, had it worked out,a 2024 electric car under 20k was very tempting - enjoy !

gossamerfabric

Always liked the petrol Up! due to the earnestness of the car and e-Up! is no different.

Alfagtamini

Close to doing a deal on a pre reg 2023 E-UP!. ( 50km on the clock)

It will be a perfect entry EV for a relation of mine.

Best I've managed to do is €15k from ringing around dealers.

It's a lot of car for the money.

Has anyone managed to negotiate a VW dealer below 15k?

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121826128#Comment_121826128

Did you get the Sim to Activate? What system is in these cars. Same as the eGolf, not the ID range I assume.

podge3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027657#Comment_122027657

Yes, it was sorted fairly easily & quickly via a few emails.

I'm not familiar with other VW cars but the e-Up uses the same app as all the other electric VWs.

podge3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027411#Comment_122027411

That's some deal @ €15k, doubt you'll do any better.

Alfagtamini

Thanks, it's the most responsive I've ever seen main dealers to an enquiry. So I'm guessing they are not selling.

Tempted to leave it a few days and see if any dealers come back.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027877#Comment_122027877

Which dealer was willing to deal at €15K? There were some pre reg 241 plates available for around €19K earlier this year but not sure if there's any left.

Alfagtamini

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027886#Comment_122027886

The one at 15k is a pre reg 232 with delivery Mileage. Joe Duffy VW

podge3

2024 models here: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars?sort=priceasc&year_from=2024&make=Volkswagen%3Bmodel%3Ae-up%21

2023 models here: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars/Volkswagen/e-up!/2023?sort=priceasc

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027886#Comment_122027886

Divanes were advertising 16k

podge3

There are 26 x 241s available, although a lot of those are red. There was almost 50 when I bought mine 6 or 7 weeks ago. They seem to find 1 or 2 additional cars every so often.

17 x 2023, I think these are the ones to go for if it's a cash sale.

MojoMaker

Seems like great value for anyone looking for a clean modern electric urban run-about with warranty.

Can't go wrong for 15K, can you?

Dayor Knight

These look a great deal. I wonder if there are any implications for the battery if an eight or nine month old car has only delivery mileage on it? i.e sitting in a showroom unused… (normally a great thing).

Any thoughts, lads?

Alfagtamini

Picked up one this morning. Great car for the money

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049227#Comment_122049227

yeah I drove one earlier this year but decided against it as just too small for my needs even as a second car .

It’s a fun drive though- like a big go-cart 😀

Considering such cars will always have buyers, 15k for a 2023 EV is great - I could see that only dropping 1k per annum in value max - easily sell for 10k in 5 years time , probably to a learner driver

Alfagtamini

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049233#Comment_122049233

Yeah it drives great. Sits at 120kmh on the motorway too quite comfortably.

Ideal second car I think and as you said with slow enough depreciation.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049245#Comment_122049245

I hope I don’t kick myself in years to come for not picking one up (pun intended😀) - if I only needed it for local driving I’d probably go for it at that price but I want something that will get me further afield and probably with a bit more comfort and room .

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049219#Comment_122049219

Its not an issue. All cars sit around for months in manufacturing plants, storage yards, boats, ports etc etc.

podge3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122049219#Comment_122049219

There was an information sheet left in mine that showed a maintenance schedule for charging both the traction and 12v batteries since manufacture. This was a VW sheet so was probably filled out wherever the car was stored before being pre-registered in February of this year.

Dunno about the 2023 pre-regs. They have been sitting at a dealers since the second half of last year and could have been fully charged or flat, depending on whatever maintenance schedule the local VW dealer may or may not have implemented.