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Lisa Smith home.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    biko wrote: »
    When she comes back she will become a rallying point for other extremists.

    What do you mean?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,129 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Reported on RTE now that return will be in a few days.

    Time to face up to reality and stop propounding fantasy ideas about foisting our problem onto another country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    elperello wrote: »
    Reported on RTE now that return will be in a few days.

    Time to face up to reality and stop propounding fantasy ideas about foisting our problem onto another country.

    Celebrities get stranger by the day sign of the times .


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Upon her return, I think there should be a reality TV show starring Lisa of the Levant, Margret Cash, John Connors, Ian O'Doherty, yerman from Pavee Point, The Nordie Peruvian drug mule woman, Gemma O'Doherty, Paul Murphy and perhaps George Hook. Their job is to construct a fully functioning harmonious micro-society with nothing but their wits and a high-speed fibre optic internet connection provided under the National Broadband Scheme.

    It should be presented by Marty Whelan and Blindboy - and at the end of each week, viewers vote to send the losing contestant to a sit-down with Fintan O'Toole who will help them contextualize the week's goings on within the current historical epoch and national milieu.

    The winner gets a 4eva home and mid-morning slot on national radio.

    It would be sure fire winner with After Hours viewers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Upon her return, I think there should be a reality TV show starring Lisa of the Levant, Margret Cash, John Connors, Ian O'Doherty, yerman from Pavee Point, The Nordie Peruvian drug mule woman, Gemma O'Doherty, Paul Murphy and perhaps George Hook. Their job is to construct a fully functioning harmonious micro-society with nothing but their wits and a high-speed fibre optic internet connection provided under the National Broadband Scheme.

    It should be presented by Marty Whelan and Blindboy - and at the end of each week, viewers vote to send the losing contestant to a sit-down with Fintan O'Toole who will help them contextualize the week's goings on within the current historical epoch and national milieu.

    The winner gets a 4eva home and mid-morning slot on national radio.

    It would be sure fire winner with After Hours viewers.

    RTE would have to get their TV license/Mobile phone/Internet tax first to afford the 50 million price tag..;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,377 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Upon her return, I think there should be a reality TV show starring Lisa of the Levant, Margret Cash, John Connors, Ian O'Doherty, yerman from Pavee Point, The Nordie Peruvian drug mule woman, Gemma O'Doherty, Paul Murphy and perhaps George Hook. Their job is to construct a fully functioning harmonious micro-society with nothing but their wits and a high-speed fibre optic internet connection provided under the National Broadband Scheme.

    It should be presented by Marty Whelan and Blindboy - and at the end of each week, viewers vote to send the losing contestant to a sit-down with Fintan O'Toole who will help them contextualize the week's goings on within the current historical epoch and national milieu.

    The winner gets a 4eva home and mid-morning slot on national radio.

    It would be sure fire winner with After Hours viewers.

    I'd tune in to that!! Sounds far more entertaining than most of what's on these days:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    To where do i address my ' welcome home you f...... .... ' card to ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Did they roll out the red carpet for her getting off the plane ? Has she been confirmed for late late show yet ?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    The Western countries were doing there best to bring all these "asset's" home.

    She should have been subjected to the law of the Syrian state and handed over to the Syrian government for interrogation and trial for terrorism offences ect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Limpy wrote: »
    The Western countries were doing there best to bring all these "asset's" home.

    She should have been subjected to the law of the Syrian state and handed over to the Syrian government for interrogation and trial for terrorism offences ect.

    if the syrians decided that this is what should happen or have happened, and in turn made such a request, then absolutely.
    but to the best of my knowledge neither have happened, so i would imagine that they do not have any interest in having to take on and try her and any other of the foreign isis members that they haven't got, and therefore the foreign isis members have to go back to where they came from.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Limpy wrote: »
    The Western countries were doing there best to bring all these "asset's" home.

    She should have been subjected to the law of the Syrian state and handed over to the Syrian government for interrogation and trial for terrorism offences ect.

    The Syrian state do not have control of vast parts of their own country, the parts Lisa was in included. How on earth do you propose that they could enforce Syrian law?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    tuxy wrote: »
    The Syrian state do not have control of vast parts of their own country, the parts Lisa was in included. How on earth do you propose that they could enforce Syrian law?

    Its occupied yes. Under international law the Syrian borders have not changed. So these terrorists and there supporters should be tried in the country they committed offences.

    The only people wanting these terrorists to come home are the paid shills. Why is that?

    ISIS went From the worse thing since AQ to being rebel's who need our help to get home. Let's hug them and they will forgot about all the war crimes they commited.

    Gimme a break, anyone who wants them to come home should just move over to northern Syria and enjoy the hospitality. Good riddance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Limpy wrote: »
    The only people wanting these terrorists to come home are the paid shills.

    Is Trump a paid shill?

    :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Are Turkish Airlines the only carrier that fly from Istanbul to Dublin directly? You'd be wanting a refund or an alternative flight if you had to get on a plane with a member of ISIS.

    The airline should be insisting that she be handcuffed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Whatever about the logistics, she is being brought back to Ireland. We have to accept that now.

    BUT, I would have been far more accepting of this if Lisa Smith's repatriation was on condition that she did not make any moolah out of it, like LLS, interviews, books written and so on.

    Could be easily done as a condition of repatriation, but was it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Limpy wrote: »
    Its occupied yes. Under international law the Syrian borders have not changed. So these terrorists and there supporters should be tried in the country they committed offences.

    again, if that is what the syrians decide, then yes that is what should happen.
    if they decide otherwise, which seems to be the case, not to mention as stated there are parts of their country they don't control, then as stated the syrians are not interested in trying them and they aren't going to do so, and people will just have to except it.
    Limpy wrote: »
    The only people wanting these terrorists to come home are the paid shills. Why is that?

    incorrect, the syrians, the turks, the kurds, trump, and many more want them gone so that they won't be able to regroup and rearm and cause further destablisation of syria and surrounding areas.
    Limpy wrote: »
    ISIS went From the worse thing since AQ to being rebel's who need our help to get home. Let's hug them and they will forgot about all the war crimes they commited.

    actually they were the best thing since sliced bread before all that.
    Limpy wrote: »
    Gimme a break, anyone who wants them to come home should just move over to northern Syria and enjoy the hospitality. Good riddance.

    hyperbole and wibble.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Are Turkish Airlines the only carrier that fly from Istanbul to Dublin directly? You'd be wanting a refund or an alternative flight if you had to get on a plane with a member of ISIS.

    The airline should be insisting that she be handcuffed.

    Don't think she will jeopardise her return to Ireland.
    She will probably stay quiet for a while then start spreading her evil propaganda to fellow nut jobs when the spotlight has died down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Am I correct to say she has not returned yet ? I believe that the taoiseach said that she is due over the weekend.... Which would mean tomorrow is when it's going to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Limpy wrote: »
    Its occupied yes. Under international law the Syrian borders have not changed. So these terrorists and there supporters should be tried in the country they committed offences.

    That is true but does not change the fact that Syria is completely incapable of imposing many of it's laws due to being war torn.
    Are Turkish Airlines the only carrier that fly from Istanbul to Dublin directly? You'd be wanting a refund or an alternative flight if you had to get on a plane with a member of ISIS.

    The airline should be insisting that she be handcuffed.

    If she comes on a commercial flight she will just be another woman wearing a niqab coming from Turkey escorted by by a few men in plain clothes, no one on the flight will know but security will be extra tight, there is no risk to passengers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    She should not be courted by MSM or be on the LLS or write a book, or whatever. Odious woman.

    I'd be happy enough for her to get home, but not make any money out of it all. Should have been a condition for her repatriation IMV. But we love everyone don't we.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Anyway, she is probably here since yesterday. You know how these things go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    She should not be courted by MSM or be on the LLS or write a book, or whatever. Odious woman.

    I'd be happy enough for her to get home, but not make any money out of it all. Should have been a condition for her repatriation IMV. But we love everyone don't we.

    When it comes to international obligation on this matter the Irish government have acted well. More counties need to take responsibility like this, it's not just a Middle Eastern problem.

    When it comes to protecting our own country and citizens the same government have totally failed us. So may laws and procedures that should be in place for such an event but there is nothing and not even an attempt to rectify that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    tuxy wrote: »
    If she comes on a commercial ............, there is no risk to passengers.

    And thank God for that


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    She should not be courted by MSM or be on the LLS or write a book, or whatever. Odious woman.

    I'd be happy enough for her to get home, but not make any money out of it all. Should have been a condition for her repatriation IMV. But we love everyone don't we.

    I think an honest portrayal of her life would be a fascinating read.

    What ever you think of her, going from a defense force whose remit is peace to marrying into a death cult is an extremely interesting story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Boggles wrote: »
    I think an honest portrayal of her life would be a fascinating read.

    What ever you think of her, going from a defense force whose remit is peace to marrying into a death cult is an extremely interesting story.

    And a possibly prevent other isis "Hopeful's" from joining up ???


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,340 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I remember listening to someone on Joe Duffy, I think it was, who knew her before she became a muslim. The woman speaking was muslim herself and knew Smith, was surprised that she converted and then really taken aback by how extreme and militant she became so quickly. Some people are just off the edge of things and really it sounds like it could have been any number of things to set her off on a mental life choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,236 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    jmreire wrote: »
    And a possibly prevent other isis "Hopeful's" from joining up ???

    It may offer an insight.

    But she is an extremely rare breed, I don't think you would get a general blueprint from her, I think her story would be unique to her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I don't know if an honest report of what happened is possible from her.
    Has she had a history of mental illness beforehand?
    Reports from a woman that knew her in the Dundalk mosque are that no one got into her head and radicalised her, she actively sought radical idealism. This can be backed up by all the men she deiced to divorce because she didn't think they were strict enough when it came to Islam and its teachings.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    tuxy wrote: »
    That is true but does not change the fact that Syria is completely incapable of imposing many of it's laws due to being war torn.

    The occupier's could allow the Syrian government to retake it's land instead of arming the opposition.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Limpy wrote: »
    The occupier's could allow the Syrian government to retake it's land instead of arming the opposition.

    The latest occupier is part of NATO and allied with the most powerful countries in the world, you would have to come up with an argument a bit more convincing than that.


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