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    #422
    kingstevii
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭kingstevii


    She was seen this morning collecting the keys of her new 3k a month apartment in Dundrum..


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    #423
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    tuxy wrote: »
    We know it's been covered for some time now.
    She divorced them because they were not radical enough for her.

    Says a lot about her. Can’t believe they’ve facilitated an isis member back to Ireland.


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    #424
    X111111111111
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    Duke of Url wrote: »
    She’s Irish

    I don't care.


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    #425
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I just hope ppl remember all of this circus when it comes to the next election. Thanks Leo and co. Clowns

    FG will be punished in the next election for a host of other matters, this won't come in to it. FF who have propped up the FG government hold just as much blame do you think they will be punished too?


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    #426
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    smelly sock wrote: »
    You do know what IS are right?

    Are you saying the Irish Government should recognize the Islamic State as a legitimate State?

    If the answer is no then she’s an Irish citizen.


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    #427
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    X111111111111 wrote: »
    I don't care.

    Turkey is a more powerful country than Ireland it was impossible to stop her deportation. Do you care about that?


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    #428
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    smelly sock wrote: »
    No.

    Amazing


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    #429
    X111111111111
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I just hope ppl remember all of this circus when it comes to the next election. Thanks Leo and co. Clowns

    Voted FG the last election but by god they've turned out to be an absolute disaster. Time for change.


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    #430
    [Deleted User]
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    tuxy wrote: »
    FG will be punished in the next election for a host of other matters, this won't come in to it. FF who have propped up the FG government hold just as much blame do you think they will be punished too?

    They’re the only two options so someone has to benefit. Pity the whole country wouldn’t just boycott the charade altogether.


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    #431
    super_furry
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    RTÉ saying She had 4 jihadi husbands over there apparently.

    Sounds like the Shirley Velentine of Isis.


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    #432
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Are you saying the Irish Government should recognize the Islamic State as a legitimate State?

    If the answer is no then she’s an Irish citizen.

    Some people on here have argued that IS should be recognised officially in order remove her Irish citizenship. :rolleyes:


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    #433
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Elemonator wrote: »
    International law means she couldn’t be rendered stateless.

    UK did it. We should’ve done same.


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    #434
    X111111111111
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    tuxy wrote: »
    Turkey is a more powerful country than Ireland it was impossible to stop her deportation. Do you care about that?

    No. The flight should have refused entry into Irish airspace with a known terrorist onboard.


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    #435
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    They’re the only two options so someone has to benefit. Pity the whole country wouldn’t just boycott the charade altogether.

    It would be nice but you're dreaming if you think it will happen.


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    #436
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 15,129 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    X111111111111 wrote: »
    I don't care.

    Understood.
    Have you any more compelling arguments?


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    #437
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    So Turkish airlines knowingly delivered an isis member to Ireland. Why was it even allowed into Irish airspace


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    #438
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    X111111111111 wrote: »
    No. The flight should have refused entry into Irish airspace with a known terrorist onboard.

    You know that's impossible right? You do understand the international obligations that Ireland has?


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    #439
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    X111111111111 wrote: »
    No. The flight should have refused entry into Irish airspace with a known terrorist onboard.

    So the cells currently in Ireland shouldn’t be deported?


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    #440
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So Turkish airlines knowingly delivered an isis member to Ireland. Why was it even allowed into Irish airspace

    It was a standard, by the book deportation.


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    #441
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    tuxy wrote: »
    You know that's impossible right? You do understand the international obligations that Ireland has?

    Should’ve been told to land elsewhere with an isis member on board


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    #442
    [Deleted User]
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    tuxy wrote: »
    It would be nice but you're dreaming if you think it will happen.

    Absolutely. It is but a dream, people are mad for it.


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    #443
    Sardonicat
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    UK did it. We should’ve done same.

    No they didn't. They revoked British citizenship from someone with dual nationality.


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    #444
    tuxy
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    Duke of Url wrote: »
    So the cells currently in Ireland shouldn’t be deported?

    Yup, every country should offload their criminals on others........


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    #445
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Unreal. Letting this scumbag back into the country. We truly are a soft ****ing touch. She wouldnt get back into the states or Austrailia thats for sure.

    Who paid to bring her back?

    Joke.

    You probably helped to pay for her return. She has a free meal ticket now for the rest of her life,and more importantly...an irish passport to travel unhindered throughout Europe


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    #446
    tuxy
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Should’ve been told to land elsewhere with an isis member on board

    Shannon Airport rather than Dublin? I don't see how that would help.
    Perhaps we should go to war with a NATO country over it.


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    #447
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So Turkish airlines knowingly delivered an isis member to Ireland. Why was it even allowed into Irish airspace

    If every country did that, it would be impossible to deport any terrorist ever. Congratulations, let me know when I can not vote for you as world leader.


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    #448
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    No they didn't. They revoked British citizenship from someone with dual nationality.

    You know what. I’d have been happier taking Irish citizenship off her and let her fend for herself over there.

    Too risky to bring her back here given her Isis membership.


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    #449
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    UK did it. We should’ve done same.

    Are you referring to Shamima Begum? That is currently being challenged, it is possible to strip someone of citizenship if they can apply for an alternative. Lisa Smith couldn’t as far as we know.

    With potential charges, I’m not well up in this area so I can’t detail it too much. There is options but they are limited.

    There is law in Ireland that applies to international terrorism as well as European law, which would have effect in Ireland due to direct effect and supremacy.

    The domestic legislation in Ireland is the Offences Against The State Act 1939. The other posters are correct that it was enacted to deal with the IRA mostly as well as other groups but it’s provisions can be used for international terrorism as well. This is reflected in the Criminal Justice (Terrorist Offences) Act 2005.

    S.5 of the 2005 Act provides that a terrorist group that “engages in, promotes, encourages or advocates the commission, in or outside the State, of a terrorist activity is an unlawful organisation within the meaning and for the purposes of the 1939-1998 Acts”. This gives effect to the offence provisions Offences Against The State Act 1939.

    Now all they need to do is prove it. The options for prosecution are limited as the provisions set out for international terrorism haven’t been expanded regarding international terrorism but there is a Bill before the Dáil I understand. She would likely be charged with membership of a terrorist organisation.


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    #450
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    This country under varadkar is beyond a joke


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    #451
    tuxy
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    You know what. I’d have been happier taking Irish citizenship off her and let her fend for herself over there.

    So Ireland should become some kind of rogue state with no regard for international law?
    Don't you think the trade embargoes that would be a fallout of this could be problematic?


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