Lisa Smith home.

Boggles

Mules wrote: »

She wasn't deported. Turkey would have deported her if the Irish government hadn't offered to take her.

US2 wrote: »

She wasn't deported we bent over backwards to bring her home

IS bride Lisa Smith arrested in Dublin after being deported from Turkey

US2

Boggles wrote: »

IS bride Lisa Smith arrested in Dublin after being deported from Turkey

That article is incorrect. She wasn't deported.

Boggles

US2 wrote: »

That article is incorrect. She wasn't deported.

Link?

ELM327

US2 wrote: »

She wasn't deported we bent over backwards to bring her home

I'm more against her being here than most mate but she was deported. That's why she's here.

US2

The Irish government secured her return due to fears about the safety of the child

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/govt-secured-return-of-lisa-smith-in-light-of-dire-conditions-her-daughter-faced-in-syria--coveney-967673.html

US2

Covney quoted in that saying hes worked for months trying to bring her home

Boggles

US2 wrote: »

The Irish government secured her return due to fears about the safety of the child

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/govt-secured-return-of-lisa-smith-in-light-of-dire-conditions-her-daughter-faced-in-syria--coveney-967673.html

2nd line

Speaking following their arrival back in Ireland following deportation from Turkey on Sunday

US2

Tánaiste Simon Coveney has said the Irish Government secured the return of Lisa Smith and her daughter in light of the “dire conditions” the child faced in a Syrian camp.

He said worked for months to secure the release of Lisa Smith and her 2-year-old daughter.

Boggles

US2 wrote: »

Tánaiste Simon Coveney has said the Irish Government secured the return of Lisa Smith and her daughter in light of the “dire conditions” the child faced in a Syrian camp.

He said worked for months to secure the release of Lisa Smith and her 2-year-old daughter.

Yeah, no one is claiming she was deported from the camp.

She was deported from Turkey though.

US2

Government and defence force officials have been there for months trying to bring her home. She wasn't deported

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/reports-suggest-complications-in-bringing-lisa-smith-back-to-ireland-961527.html

Yurt2

She was accompanied by a Turkish officer on the flight. That smells like a deportation to me.

It may well have been by arrangement with the Irish government, but deported she was.

Yurt2

US2 wrote: »

Government and defence force officials have been there for months trying to bring her home. She wasn't deported

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/reports-suggest-complications-in-bringing-lisa-smith-back-to-ireland-961527.html

Turkish government M.O. with these types at present. Deport, deport, deport.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/15/americas/american-isis-suspect-deported-intl/index.html

Boggles

US2 wrote: »

Government and defence force officials have been there for months trying to bring her home. She wasn't deported

It says for a few days last month according to the link.

Could you point where in the article from a month ago where it says she wasn't deported from Turkey last Sunday?

Do you think it's time to dig up?

tuxy

She was deported but we fully complied to facilitate the deportation.

Yurt2

tuxy wrote: »

She was deported but we fully complied to facilitate the deportation.

Once a country of origin and identity is established, a country is obliged to receive the deportee.

There's nothing we could have done to stop it.

US2

Turkey said if we don't take her back she will be deported. She wasn't deported we bent over backwards spent thousands of euros to bring her home.

Yurt2

US2 wrote: »

Turkey said if we don't take her back she will be deported. She wasn't deported we bent over backwards spent thousands of euros to bring her home.

She was deported. In fact the Turkish government probably paid for her seat and that of the Turkish officer accompanying her. That's how deportations work.

Explain the presence of the Turkish officer if she wasn't deported?

tuxy

Yurt! wrote: »

She was deported.

She was. The Turkish official went along to make it official!

tuxy

I'm sensing a sense of resentment for Ireland abiding by International laws and UN recommendations.
This is new, where does it stem from?

jmreire

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Those who feel this is an open and shut case because there is no evidence of wrong doing, she might not be convicted at all but if you know nothing else, just know this.

Lisa Smith is not just "Muslum", she is a Sunni Jihadist Muslim who joined a Fundamentalist Salafist organisation.

Salafi means you subscribe to the ideology of the Prophet Mohammed where Muslims want to (not just believe but) live the way Muhammed did.

There are 3 types of Salafi Muslim.

1. Conservative with no intent to change anything in society.
2. The political type that want to replace secular society with conservative ones.

Then the most dangerous one, which Lisa Smith has given over her life to.

3. Advocating violance with a focus on terrorism against oppression of "the west".

In 2013 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi declared Syria and Iraq as the "Islamic State" after disagreements with Al-Qaeda over what way to progress the ideology.

Baghdadi used children to spy on fellow Muslims and Salafi's, if you broke any of Muhammad's archaic codes you would be beaten or executed....on the word of a child.

In 2014, Baghdadi directed that the "Caliphate" should conduct global operations, so it did, you are all aware of that. That remains ISIS's goal.

This is Lisa Smiths chosen path.

Baghdadi's last and his successors first address have contunued the call to oppose the "west"...well we are the "west".

This one needs to be watched 25/8/366. Accept it or don't accept it, doesnt matter. The life and ideology of a Salafi Jihadist Muslim does not end in Kevin Street Garda station.

The prophesy of Dabiq, the Caliphate and the final battle, the destruction of Rome, and the death of the Pope. All were active objectives of isis, and still are.

wassie

US2 wrote: »

Government and defence force officials have been there for months trying to bring her home. She wasn't deported

Turkish state news agency Anadolu reported 2 days ago "The ministry said 13 German, two Belgian, two Dutch, one Danish, one British, one American and an Irish terrorist were deported from Turkey in Nov.11-Dec.1."

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/number-of-repatriated-foreign-terrorists-rises-to-21/1660709

Effects

jmreire wrote: »

It's expressly forbidden for a Muslim, man or woman to leave Islam.

How is that different to how the Catholic Church won't let you leave? At least Muslims are upfront about it.

rafatoni

Is it true she got eddie rockets delivered on Sunday and her family were allowed to eat it with here??? Cant be true surely?

Boggles

rafatoni wrote: »

Is it true she got eddie rockets delivered on Sunday and her family were allowed to eat it with here??? Cant be true surely?

I've no idea, but she would be entitled to food.

Everyone who is detained for a set period of time is.

Hardly a mental notion.

Signore Fancy Pants

Effects wrote: »

How is that different to how the Catholic Church won't let you leave? At least Muslims are upfront about it.

Well, some Muslims believe in the death penalty for those that voluntarily renunce the Muslim faith.

Im honestly not sure if old school Catholicism has something similar.

tuxy

rafatoni wrote: »

Is it true she got eddie rockets delivered on Sunday and her family were allowed to eat it with here??? Cant be true surely?

Is Eddie Rockets halal? I doubt Kevin St. station has the facilities to prepare halal food.
It is true that the Gardaí would try different methods to get her to talk.

malinheader

rafatoni wrote: »

Is it true she got eddie rockets delivered on Sunday and her family were allowed to eat it with here??? Cant be true surely?

Her family joined her for a get together and a meal yesterday in the station.

Signore Fancy Pants

tuxy wrote: »

Is Eddie Rockets halal?
It is true that the Gardaí are trying different methods to get her to talk.

They have a Dundalk translator there anyway.

tayto lover

She’ll be out soon. No charges as she committed no offences in Ireland.
It’s just intelligence gathering imo.

tuxy

tayto lover wrote: »

She’ll be out soon. No charges as she committed no offences in Ireland.
It’s just intelligence gathering imo.

Yes she will be released at 9.30am tomorrow if they can not charge her.