Was the Syrian "Gas Attack" of 2018 fake news?

sxt

leaked documents from a scientist from the OPCW, seem to suggest it was

[URL] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7718627/Sexed-dossier-furore-alleged-poison-gas-attack-Assad.html[/url]

Fiery mutant

The Syrian war has been a ****show from day one, and though I haven’t read the link you provided (but I will) even if ou take out this incident, Assad has been butchering the populace for years, supported by Putin and the Iranians.

The fact that the Western nations have been incompetent in relation to how to deal with it has made the situation even worse. We’re left in a place now where Turkey has invaded part of Syria, Putin has started to call in the favours, for which the Syrians will pay for for years, and the US has forces now securing oil fields to steal the natural resources of the Syrian people.

When history judges us in years to come, it will not be for the better.

Wibbs

After the whole weapons of mass destruction "found" in Iraq as a prelude to that land/oil grab I'd not be too surprised.

Elmer Blooker

I remember trying to argue with all the jihadist apologists in threads like this back in the day, where are they all now?

Although the reports and films could not be independently verified, as the alleged events took place in a war zone then under the control of brutal Islamist militants,

Theres the answer to your question OP, no journalists would dare go anywhere near areas under the control of brutal Islamic militants but the western media, including RTE were very enthusiastic in spreading ISIS propaganda.

donaghs

Obama made a brave decision not to attack Syria after everyone was screaming that Assad has crossed his “red lines” with chemical attacks.

There just wasn’t enough evidence, and even at then some voices like Robert Fisk and Seymour Hersh were skeptical.

Now, what about the remaining Al Qaeda stronghold in Idlib. Are they still “rebels”?

weldoninhio

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I remember trying to argue with all the jihadist apologists in threads like this back in the day, where are they all now?

Theres the answer to your question OP, no journalists would dare go anywhere near areas under the control of brutal Islamic militants but the western media, including RTE were very enthusiastic in spreading ISIS propaganda.

Robert Fisk, I believe it was, went and said that he didn't think it was a chemical attack.


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html

s7ryf3925pivug

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I remember trying to argue with all the jihadist apologists in threads like this back in the day, where are they all now?

I don't know, where did all the imaginary jihadist apologists go?

paw patrol

Fiery mutant wrote: »

, Assad has been butchering the populace for years, supported by Putin and the Iranians.

pre the uprising - which lets not forget was funded by foreign powers - assad was quite the reformer in Syria most probably influenced by his time in the west especially London.

When the civil war started he had to ditch the reformer types and bring back the hardline advisors of his father for the long hard slog of civil war.
Of course it was brutal , war is. What was he supposed to do ?
Let's not forget much of Syria was pro assad and supported him.


interestingly all "western" enemies in the middle east worthy of attack have been the secularist types who you'd imagine would be allies of the west,

but nah US/UK need that Saudi cash and of to dance to whatever tune comes from the Knesset.

Lord Fairlord

paw patrol wrote: »

pre the uprising - which lets not forget was funded by foreign powers - assad was quite the reformer in Syria most probably influenced by his time in the west especially London.

When the civil war started he had to ditch the reformer types and bring back the hardline advisors of his father for the long hard slog of civil war.
Of course it was brutal , war is. What was he supposed to do ?
Let's not forget much of Syria was pro assad and supported him.


interestingly all "western" enemies in the middle east worthy of attack have been the secularist types who you'd imagine would be allies of the west,

but nah US/UK need that Saudi cash and of to dance to whatever tune comes from the Knesset.

Very true. Also, all the shilling for "moderate" rebels in Western media.

Elmer Blooker

Brennan Purring Firecracker wrote: »

I don't know, where did all the imaginary jihadist apologists go?

I have no idea where all the posters who parroted the reports from 'rebels', 'moderates', 'activists' and not to mention your man who lives in Coventry are now, how would I know?

Tony EH

sxt wrote: »

leaked documents from a scientist from the OPCW, seem to suggest it was

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7718627/Sexed-dossier-furore-alleged-poison-gas-attack-Assad.html

So, you mean just like the one in 2013?

Robert Fisk visited just after it, he interviewed a variety of people, including doctors, and couldn't find any evidence that there was a gas attack. People were suffering from hypoxia (due to a massive cloud of dust as a result of shelling and aircraft overhead).

If the most distinguished of journalists (one of a last breed) can find no evidence, that's good enough for me. I'd take his word over the word of organisations with a myriad of ulterior motives every day until the end of time.

biko

The head of the world’s chemical weapons watchdog has defended its conclusion that chlorine was used in an attack in Syria in April 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/25/chemical-weapons-watchdog-opcw-defends-syria-report-after-leaks

Limpy

As fake as Bana Alabad's English.